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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    When our DLP TV's lamp went out yesterday, my wife decided (without any prompting from me) to get a new LCD TV for the bedroom, along with an upscaling DVD player. Since I am in the process of becoming deathly ill, I sent her out and had her call me so I could research the equipment on the web that she was considering for purchase. The wife brought home a RCA L40FHD41, and when we set it up, we found the following: 0) Price - $548 (at Wal-Mart) - that's damn good for such a large (40-inch) LCD TV. 1) The TV's setup functionality is basically crap. There is a Menu button on the remote, and this allows you to go through some setup stuff. This setup stuff does NOT include the screen format ((how wide the incoming display signal is). For that setting, you have to click the Format button. I still don't know if it's going to auto-adjust depending on the signal, or if we're going to have to do that manually. 2) There is no way to remove unused sources from the Input menu. To watch a DVD, we have to scroll down SEVEN items to get to "HDMI 1". I would have alternately settled for being able to configure the list so that the things we use are right next to each other, but that's not possible either. Also, if you're at the top of the list, you can't push the UP button and go to the bottom (the menu doesn't wrap). 3) The DirecTV remote (and from what I gather, MANY/ALL generic learning remotes) are not compatible with the TV. The codes provided by DirecTV simply don't work, and using their "search for codes" feature (or web page) doesn't contain anything that will work. This means we need the DirecTV remote to turn on the satellite box and change channels, but the TV's remote for power/sound. What a pain. 4) I told my wife that we would get a better picture if we got a HD satellite box, and she said we could wait for a while, and I agreed. Then, she saw the picture (we were watching Discovery Channel, which is available in HD). Her exact comment was "What good is it to get a 40-inch TV if we're not gonna have a 40-inch picture?". We'll be getting a HD satellite box next week. :)

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    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    The DirecTV remote (and from what I gather, MANY/ALL generic learning remotes) are not compatible with the TV. The codes provided by DirecTV simply don't work, and using their "search for codes" feature (or web page) doesn't contain anything that will work. This means we need the DirecTV remote to turn on the satellite box and change channels, but the TV's remote for power/sound. What a pain.

    I feel your pain. The 'universality' of most remote controls lacks a lot of 'uni'. I managed to a find a remote that handles our cable box and TV together. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to work with the DVD player (even though the model is listed in the remote's code list). Given that remote controls have a lifetime measured in a handful of months* in my house, I'm not about to shell out more than $25 or so for an expensive remote control. * My wife tends to drop them on the hardwood floor. A lot.

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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      The DirecTV remote (and from what I gather, MANY/ALL generic learning remotes) are not compatible with the TV. The codes provided by DirecTV simply don't work, and using their "search for codes" feature (or web page) doesn't contain anything that will work. This means we need the DirecTV remote to turn on the satellite box and change channels, but the TV's remote for power/sound. What a pain.

      I feel your pain. The 'universality' of most remote controls lacks a lot of 'uni'. I managed to a find a remote that handles our cable box and TV together. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to work with the DVD player (even though the model is listed in the remote's code list). Given that remote controls have a lifetime measured in a handful of months* in my house, I'm not about to shell out more than $25 or so for an expensive remote control. * My wife tends to drop them on the hardwood floor. A lot.

      Software Zen: delete this;
      Fold With Us![^]

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      Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

      My wife tends to drop them on the hardwood floor. A lot.

      I have the same problem. She always leaves the remote on the back of the couch, and the cats inevitably knock it off onto the floor. It's gotten to be habit with me that when I walk through the living room, I knock the remote off the back of the couch and onto the seat as I pass by. And without fail, I'll find it on the back of the couch again the next time I cruise through. :rolleyes:

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        The DirecTV remote (and from what I gather, MANY/ALL generic learning remotes) are not compatible with the TV. The codes provided by DirecTV simply don't work, and using their "search for codes" feature (or web page) doesn't contain anything that will work. This means we need the DirecTV remote to turn on the satellite box and change channels, but the TV's remote for power/sound. What a pain.

        I feel your pain. The 'universality' of most remote controls lacks a lot of 'uni'. I managed to a find a remote that handles our cable box and TV together. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to work with the DVD player (even though the model is listed in the remote's code list). Given that remote controls have a lifetime measured in a handful of months* in my house, I'm not about to shell out more than $25 or so for an expensive remote control. * My wife tends to drop them on the hardwood floor. A lot.

        Software Zen: delete this;
        Fold With Us![^]

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        Chris Losinger
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        ever try the Logitech universal remotes ? i've never run into anything mine can't handle (even though i've had to manually 'train' it on a couple of things).

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          ever try the Logitech universal remotes ? i've never run into anything mine can't handle (even though i've had to manually 'train' it on a couple of things).

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          You mean these[^]? Strike 1: Their stupid web site sizes itself to approximately 200% of the width of my screen. Strike 2: Their cheapest model is $99.95. Given that my wife destroys remotes in amount of time indirectly proportional to either their (A) price or (B) difficulty of replacement, I'm not willing to spend more than about $25-$35 for a remote control. Strike 3: Strike 1 really pisses me off. I had to set the IE page zoom to 50% to be able to see the whole thing, at which point I could no longer read the text. Morons.

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            You mean these[^]? Strike 1: Their stupid web site sizes itself to approximately 200% of the width of my screen. Strike 2: Their cheapest model is $99.95. Given that my wife destroys remotes in amount of time indirectly proportional to either their (A) price or (B) difficulty of replacement, I'm not willing to spend more than about $25-$35 for a remote control. Strike 3: Strike 1 really pisses me off. I had to set the IE page zoom to 50% to be able to see the whole thing, at which point I could no longer read the text. Morons.

            Software Zen: delete this;
            Fold With Us![^]

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            I dislike the fact that I have to connect to their web site at all. It takes forever to update the remote with your configuration, and nine times out of ten, you've done something wrong and have to go through the entrie thing all over again. Oh yeah, their remote isn't aware that there are two HDMI inputs on my DLP TV.

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              ever try the Logitech universal remotes ? i've never run into anything mine can't handle (even though i've had to manually 'train' it on a couple of things).

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              Best remotes on the planet. I swapped my 5 remotes for a Harmony about 6 years ago and I'll never go back. It was the first time I could really put the others away and never need them. On top of the awesome functionality (pressing "Watch TV" or "Watch DVD" rather than having to switch all the equipment individually) it's practically indestructable. I've always had a habit of throwing things and this remote has been to the ceiling thousands of times along with a few trips down the stairs, floor, railing, wall etc. when I get distracted and miss catching it. Cheers, Drew.

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                When our DLP TV's lamp went out yesterday, my wife decided (without any prompting from me) to get a new LCD TV for the bedroom, along with an upscaling DVD player. Since I am in the process of becoming deathly ill, I sent her out and had her call me so I could research the equipment on the web that she was considering for purchase. The wife brought home a RCA L40FHD41, and when we set it up, we found the following: 0) Price - $548 (at Wal-Mart) - that's damn good for such a large (40-inch) LCD TV. 1) The TV's setup functionality is basically crap. There is a Menu button on the remote, and this allows you to go through some setup stuff. This setup stuff does NOT include the screen format ((how wide the incoming display signal is). For that setting, you have to click the Format button. I still don't know if it's going to auto-adjust depending on the signal, or if we're going to have to do that manually. 2) There is no way to remove unused sources from the Input menu. To watch a DVD, we have to scroll down SEVEN items to get to "HDMI 1". I would have alternately settled for being able to configure the list so that the things we use are right next to each other, but that's not possible either. Also, if you're at the top of the list, you can't push the UP button and go to the bottom (the menu doesn't wrap). 3) The DirecTV remote (and from what I gather, MANY/ALL generic learning remotes) are not compatible with the TV. The codes provided by DirecTV simply don't work, and using their "search for codes" feature (or web page) doesn't contain anything that will work. This means we need the DirecTV remote to turn on the satellite box and change channels, but the TV's remote for power/sound. What a pain. 4) I told my wife that we would get a better picture if we got a HD satellite box, and she said we could wait for a while, and I agreed. Then, she saw the picture (we were watching Discovery Channel, which is available in HD). Her exact comment was "What good is it to get a 40-inch TV if we're not gonna have a 40-inch picture?". We'll be getting a HD satellite box next week. :)

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                -----
                "The staggering layers o

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                3d? *here in India, 3d monitors is not at all a common thing. So I, who has never been to US, wonder that if you guys have 3d TVs over there. **I recently tried an 3D XBox game and have become a fan of it. I am buying one for sure.

                50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!

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                  3d? *here in India, 3d monitors is not at all a common thing. So I, who has never been to US, wonder that if you guys have 3d TVs over there. **I recently tried an 3D XBox game and have become a fan of it. I am buying one for sure.

                  50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!

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                  WTF are you talking about?

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                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    When our DLP TV's lamp went out yesterday, my wife decided (without any prompting from me) to get a new LCD TV for the bedroom, along with an upscaling DVD player. Since I am in the process of becoming deathly ill, I sent her out and had her call me so I could research the equipment on the web that she was considering for purchase. The wife brought home a RCA L40FHD41, and when we set it up, we found the following: 0) Price - $548 (at Wal-Mart) - that's damn good for such a large (40-inch) LCD TV. 1) The TV's setup functionality is basically crap. There is a Menu button on the remote, and this allows you to go through some setup stuff. This setup stuff does NOT include the screen format ((how wide the incoming display signal is). For that setting, you have to click the Format button. I still don't know if it's going to auto-adjust depending on the signal, or if we're going to have to do that manually. 2) There is no way to remove unused sources from the Input menu. To watch a DVD, we have to scroll down SEVEN items to get to "HDMI 1". I would have alternately settled for being able to configure the list so that the things we use are right next to each other, but that's not possible either. Also, if you're at the top of the list, you can't push the UP button and go to the bottom (the menu doesn't wrap). 3) The DirecTV remote (and from what I gather, MANY/ALL generic learning remotes) are not compatible with the TV. The codes provided by DirecTV simply don't work, and using their "search for codes" feature (or web page) doesn't contain anything that will work. This means we need the DirecTV remote to turn on the satellite box and change channels, but the TV's remote for power/sound. What a pain. 4) I told my wife that we would get a better picture if we got a HD satellite box, and she said we could wait for a while, and I agreed. Then, she saw the picture (we were watching Discovery Channel, which is available in HD). Her exact comment was "What good is it to get a 40-inch TV if we're not gonna have a 40-inch picture?". We'll be getting a HD satellite box next week. :)

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "The staggering layers o

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                    Good - we put the main chip in their boxes :-D

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      WTF are you talking about?

                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                      I mean does that TV has the capability to show 3d stuff?

                      50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!

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                        I mean does that TV has the capability to show 3d stuff?

                        50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!

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                        No.

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                          You mean these[^]? Strike 1: Their stupid web site sizes itself to approximately 200% of the width of my screen. Strike 2: Their cheapest model is $99.95. Given that my wife destroys remotes in amount of time indirectly proportional to either their (A) price or (B) difficulty of replacement, I'm not willing to spend more than about $25-$35 for a remote control. Strike 3: Strike 1 really pisses me off. I had to set the IE page zoom to 50% to be able to see the whole thing, at which point I could no longer read the text. Morons.

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                          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                          Their stupid web site sizes itself to approximately 200% of the width of my screen.

                          ok. but the remote isn't a web site.

                          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                          Their cheapest model is $99.95.

                          $68.95[^]. you can probably find them even cheaper.

                          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                          I'm not willing to spend more than about $25-$35 for a remote control.

                          i think the Logitechs work better than the cheaper brands. YMMV.

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            I dislike the fact that I have to connect to their web site at all. It takes forever to update the remote with your configuration, and nine times out of ten, you've done something wrong and have to go through the entrie thing all over again. Oh yeah, their remote isn't aware that there are two HDMI inputs on my DLP TV.

                            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                            -----
                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            It takes forever to update the remote with your configuration

                            it takes a few minutes, sure. but you only need to do that when you're changing hardware.

                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            and nine times out of ten, you've done something wrong

                            a 90% user error rate isn't really Logitech's fault.

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                              Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                              Their stupid web site sizes itself to approximately 200% of the width of my screen.

                              ok. but the remote isn't a web site.

                              Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                              Their cheapest model is $99.95.

                              $68.95[^]. you can probably find them even cheaper.

                              Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                              I'm not willing to spend more than about $25-$35 for a remote control.

                              i think the Logitechs work better than the cheaper brands. YMMV.

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                              My constraint on price is based upon my wife's ability to destroy the things.

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                                ever try the Logitech universal remotes ? i've never run into anything mine can't handle (even though i've had to manually 'train' it on a couple of things).

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                                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                I agree with you. I have one of those remotes, and they work great. The few times an odd device isn't part of the collective database, you can always train it yourself without much hassle. The only thing I have to complain about is their software for managing the remote. The software is shaky at best...

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                                  Good - we put the main chip in their boxes :-D

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                                  Meaning: any discrepancy in the video processing, and John can send you a bug report? ;)

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                                    Meaning: any discrepancy in the video processing, and John can send you a bug report? ;)

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                                    Yes - on my toll email address. $20 per message ;P

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                                      Yes - on my toll email address. $20 per message ;P

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                                      On your Troll emain account? :)

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