Dawkins trying to get Pope Arrested
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
And the Pope is Head of State.
Really? Which state?
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Vatican State. Absolute ruler he is. See here http://www.vaticanstate.va/EN/State_and_Government/StateDepartments/index.htm[^]
Ex-Officio Ruler he is. Also the Vatican is not recognised as a state in the UN, as the UN recognises the Holy See as the state and that is different from the Vatican. Also Immunity is only granted to crimes committed whilst in office. Also Immunity is not granted on Crimes Against Humanity, and Institutionalised Rape and Sexual Abuse is both a War Crime and a Crime Against Humanity and is therefore exempt from the immunity. Personally, I think he could be in trouble.
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Ex-Officio Ruler he is. Also the Vatican is not recognised as a state in the UN, as the UN recognises the Holy See as the state and that is different from the Vatican. Also Immunity is only granted to crimes committed whilst in office. Also Immunity is not granted on Crimes Against Humanity, and Institutionalised Rape and Sexual Abuse is both a War Crime and a Crime Against Humanity and is therefore exempt from the immunity. Personally, I think he could be in trouble.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Personally, I think he could be in trouble.
You could be right. However, a huge mess ensues if he is arrested.
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See Here[^] He does make a convincing point. The priesthood is not above the law, and the Sodomizing of children should not be made legal by dint of a dog-collar!
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RichardM1 wrote:
Dawkins is an a**hole.
A highly educated and intelligent one then. And I agree with his posture on religion.
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When I've seen him interact with people, he is quick to call names, and avoids any real debate. I call him an asshole because of how he argues about it. That is why I think he is an asshole, not because of what he believes.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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Ex-Officio Ruler he is. Also the Vatican is not recognised as a state in the UN, as the UN recognises the Holy See as the state and that is different from the Vatican. Also Immunity is only granted to crimes committed whilst in office. Also Immunity is not granted on Crimes Against Humanity, and Institutionalised Rape and Sexual Abuse is both a War Crime and a Crime Against Humanity and is therefore exempt from the immunity. Personally, I think he could be in trouble.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Taiwan isn't recognized by the UN either (thanks to Nixon).
Dalek Dave wrote:
whilst in office.
I don't think there is anything saying he supported it while he was Pope, only before. So I don't think he is liable for it, as head of state.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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Taiwan isn't recognized by the UN either (thanks to Nixon).
Dalek Dave wrote:
whilst in office.
I don't think there is anything saying he supported it while he was Pope, only before. So I don't think he is liable for it, as head of state.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
That's the point, he smothered it before taking office, therefore he is responsible as a private individual, and therefore ihe is liable to prosecution.
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That's the point, he smothered it before taking office, therefore he is responsible as a private individual, and therefore ihe is liable to prosecution.
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When I've seen him interact with people, he is quick to call names, and avoids any real debate. I call him an asshole because of how he argues about it. That is why I think he is an asshole, not because of what he believes.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
Can you give an example? I've not observed that.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
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Good. The bastard should be rotting in prison like any other molestor. He's an accessory after the fact in multiple cases. It's time these bastards faced the law. Real law, not their imaginary bullshit.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
LunaticFringe wrote:
Real law, not their imaginary bullsh*t.
:thumbsup:
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
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See Here[^] He does make a convincing point. The priesthood is not above the law, and the Sodomizing of children should not be made legal by dint of a dog-collar!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
I hope that he succeeds. If there was a Care Worker with holding information about a Peado there would be uproar. No-one is above the law. Bravo Mr Dawkins.
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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Good. The bastard should be rotting in prison like any other molestor. He's an accessory after the fact in multiple cases. It's time these bastards faced the law. Real law, not their imaginary bullshit.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
Very true. Shame there are so many blinkered people here that down voted that comment. Just shows how dangerous Religion can be on the mind. +5 :thumbsup:
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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Can you give an example? I've not observed that.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
At least three different occasions in the netscape forums between 05 and 07, I got to watch it live. I did not spend a whole lot of time there, but he was online 3-5 times while I was in that period. He cherry picked the stupids, but when someone smarter tried to pin him down, he would switch threads.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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At least three different occasions in the netscape forums between 05 and 07, I got to watch it live. I did not spend a whole lot of time there, but he was online 3-5 times while I was in that period. He cherry picked the stupids, but when someone smarter tried to pin him down, he would switch threads.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
Odd; I've not seen those but when I have seen him he is usually polite but firm and hasn't ducked anything that's been thrown at him. I guess we see what we want to see.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
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Odd; I've not seen those but when I have seen him he is usually polite but firm and hasn't ducked anything that's been thrown at him. I guess we see what we want to see.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
digital man wrote:
I guess we see what we want to see.
I didn't. From what I had seen on youtube, I thought I was going into a discussion with an intelligent, but not too polite*, guy. Just because I disagree with does not mean my mind is infested with worms. Both sides have proven it is a good bet to think they are, though. * not a put down, you can't be too polite in that line of argument.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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I hope that he succeeds. If there was a Care Worker with holding information about a Peado there would be uproar. No-one is above the law. Bravo Mr Dawkins.
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
No-one is above the law.
Unfortunately, some actually are, per the law. :sigh:
Opacity, the new Transparency.
RichardM1 wrote:
Unfortunately, some actually are, per the law
Ok, Ok. No one should be above the law. :)
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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digital man wrote:
I guess we see what we want to see.
I didn't. From what I had seen on youtube, I thought I was going into a discussion with an intelligent, but not too polite*, guy. Just because I disagree with does not mean my mind is infested with worms. Both sides have proven it is a good bet to think they are, though. * not a put down, you can't be too polite in that line of argument.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
"I guess we see what we want to see." I meant that I didn't see him as rude or anything like that: doesn't mean he wasn't; I just don't see taking a strong position and giving as good as you get rude. You are right, though, it's an impossible argument; much as I know I'm right, so do you (so to speak) and neither side will shift the other. Gets a bit pointless, really which is why, I suspect, it gets a bit 'hot-n-heavy' in a non-porn way. :-)
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
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RichardM1 wrote:
Unfortunately, some actually are, per the law
Ok, Ok. No one should be above the law. :)
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair