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Hey Guys, I've been invloved with a project over the last couple of months called AudioScrobbler[^]. It's an open-source project started by a guy called RJ as a University Final Year project. The aim of the project is to link people togther who have similar tastes in music in order to help people find new music which they'll enjoy. The project has only been running a few months but there is quite a healthy community developing (~4000 users). <edit> I should point out that the site will only suggest artists which are similar to the ones you have played so far. It's up to the user to then go out and buy the album or whatever. You cannot access any music directly using this tool. </edit> All you need to do to join is register on the web site and download a plugin for your favourite music app. There are plugins for most major apps such as Winamp2, Winamp3, QCDPlayer, XMMS, iTunes etc etc. Once you have the plugin, when you have played a song 50% of the way through the plugin will send details of the song to the server. This information is then used to link you to other members. Anyway, there's loads more info on the site so if you are interested go ahead and have a look. Cheers James
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Hey Guys, I've been invloved with a project over the last couple of months called AudioScrobbler[^]. It's an open-source project started by a guy called RJ as a University Final Year project. The aim of the project is to link people togther who have similar tastes in music in order to help people find new music which they'll enjoy. The project has only been running a few months but there is quite a healthy community developing (~4000 users). <edit> I should point out that the site will only suggest artists which are similar to the ones you have played so far. It's up to the user to then go out and buy the album or whatever. You cannot access any music directly using this tool. </edit> All you need to do to join is register on the web site and download a plugin for your favourite music app. There are plugins for most major apps such as Winamp2, Winamp3, QCDPlayer, XMMS, iTunes etc etc. Once you have the plugin, when you have played a song 50% of the way through the plugin will send details of the song to the server. This information is then used to link you to other members. Anyway, there's loads more info on the site so if you are interested go ahead and have a look. Cheers James
Wow! This software is what RIAA's been dreaming in the last few years! My latest article: GBVB - Converting VB.NET code to C#
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Wow! This software is what RIAA's been dreaming in the last few years! My latest article: GBVB - Converting VB.NET code to C#
Daniel Turini wrote: Wow! This software is what RIAA's been dreaming in the last few years! Lets hope they let the user enter his address to make it easier to pay them a visit to congratulate them for being a good citizen. :dark-black-sarcasm:
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Hey Guys, I've been invloved with a project over the last couple of months called AudioScrobbler[^]. It's an open-source project started by a guy called RJ as a University Final Year project. The aim of the project is to link people togther who have similar tastes in music in order to help people find new music which they'll enjoy. The project has only been running a few months but there is quite a healthy community developing (~4000 users). <edit> I should point out that the site will only suggest artists which are similar to the ones you have played so far. It's up to the user to then go out and buy the album or whatever. You cannot access any music directly using this tool. </edit> All you need to do to join is register on the web site and download a plugin for your favourite music app. There are plugins for most major apps such as Winamp2, Winamp3, QCDPlayer, XMMS, iTunes etc etc. Once you have the plugin, when you have played a song 50% of the way through the plugin will send details of the song to the server. This information is then used to link you to other members. Anyway, there's loads more info on the site so if you are interested go ahead and have a look. Cheers James
Cool site. How do the musicians get paid? Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Hey Guys, I've been invloved with a project over the last couple of months called AudioScrobbler[^]. It's an open-source project started by a guy called RJ as a University Final Year project. The aim of the project is to link people togther who have similar tastes in music in order to help people find new music which they'll enjoy. The project has only been running a few months but there is quite a healthy community developing (~4000 users). <edit> I should point out that the site will only suggest artists which are similar to the ones you have played so far. It's up to the user to then go out and buy the album or whatever. You cannot access any music directly using this tool. </edit> All you need to do to join is register on the web site and download a plugin for your favourite music app. There are plugins for most major apps such as Winamp2, Winamp3, QCDPlayer, XMMS, iTunes etc etc. Once you have the plugin, when you have played a song 50% of the way through the plugin will send details of the song to the server. This information is then used to link you to other members. Anyway, there's loads more info on the site so if you are interested go ahead and have a look. Cheers James
Damn James, that's a cool idea! I'll have to check it out when I get home though. Seems like it'll really help me out in my quest for decent techno/upbeat/dance music as I never hear the songs on the radio and the CD labels rarely say, "this song sucks; don't buy." (*Falcon).Jeremy 141² 150 162² 145 143² 164
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Cool site. How do the musicians get paid? Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: How do the musicians get paid? Well, the musicians get paid when the member goes out and buys the album. This is not a file sharing project - it's only a way of hearing about new artists. There is no way to download any music or whatever from the site or directly from other members. Cheers James
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Christopher Duncan wrote: How do the musicians get paid? Well, the musicians get paid when the member goes out and buys the album. This is not a file sharing project - it's only a way of hearing about new artists. There is no way to download any music or whatever from the site or directly from other members. Cheers James
No file sharing and the artist actually gets paid? You just got 5 stars, man! :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Daniel Turini wrote: Wow! This software is what RIAA's been dreaming in the last few years! Lets hope they let the user enter his address to make it easier to pay them a visit to congratulate them for being a good citizen. :dark-black-sarcasm:
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I think you may be misunderstanding how it works. There is no music to download or anything, just recommendations about similar artists you may like based on the songs you have submitted so far. There will even be links into Amazon and CDNow etc when the site is fully developed. I don't see how the RIAA would be interested as long as the user isn't using any illegal music. I don't see it being any different to using something like CDDB. Cheers James
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I think you may be misunderstanding how it works. There is no music to download or anything, just recommendations about similar artists you may like based on the songs you have submitted so far. There will even be links into Amazon and CDNow etc when the site is fully developed. I don't see how the RIAA would be interested as long as the user isn't using any illegal music. I don't see it being any different to using something like CDDB. Cheers James
James Spibey wrote: I think you may be misunderstanding how it works No, no. I understood. Just think about the valuable information which IP address is listening to which artist and which song. That is something the RIAA type of people are interested in. All those wonderful lists of IP addresses listening to a song that is not yet available in stores at the location of the IP address. Keep this information in sync with popular downloads and some other log information and you track "possible music pirates" with ease. It is no longer the good intention that counts. :(
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James Spibey wrote: I think you may be misunderstanding how it works No, no. I understood. Just think about the valuable information which IP address is listening to which artist and which song. That is something the RIAA type of people are interested in. All those wonderful lists of IP addresses listening to a song that is not yet available in stores at the location of the IP address. Keep this information in sync with popular downloads and some other log information and you track "possible music pirates" with ease. It is no longer the good intention that counts. :(
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I can see your point, but as is true with a lot of things those who have done nothing wrong have nothing to hide. It is an opt-in system and because it is open source (plugins and server code) you can see exactly what information is being sent back and forth. I agree that many people would be worried if Microsoft or someone set this sort of system up because they would most likely be feeding that information back to the RIAA in some way but this is a community project and those who don't like the idea of it don't have to participate. :) I personally think it's a great idea - I've spent that last couple of years thinking about writing something very similar so it's nice to see it finally up and running. Cheers James
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I can see your point, but as is true with a lot of things those who have done nothing wrong have nothing to hide. It is an opt-in system and because it is open source (plugins and server code) you can see exactly what information is being sent back and forth. I agree that many people would be worried if Microsoft or someone set this sort of system up because they would most likely be feeding that information back to the RIAA in some way but this is a community project and those who don't like the idea of it don't have to participate. :) I personally think it's a great idea - I've spent that last couple of years thinking about writing something very similar so it's nice to see it finally up and running. Cheers James
James Spibey wrote: but as is true with a lot of things those who have done nothing wrong have nothing to hide Sure not, unfortunately its the 2% wrong-doers which make the other 98% suffer. Many information can be used good or bad. When Napster was developed it sounded like a good idea too and probably had nothing bad in mind. Everybody knows what happend. So I think that we as programmers need to start thinking about possible consequences of data that we collect and store. Nowadays all information can be linked in some or another way, which then turns harmless information in true privacy violations. You may say, you dont care who knows what you are listening? Fine, what if this information is then used for targeted advertising? For classification of your political profile? People tend to use information in endless, weird ways. Sometimes for good, most times for bad. Community projects have a tendency to get commercialized. People start to see value and money in it. Community projects start talking about possible ROI, POS and other buzzwords. If that happens, what happens to your "voluntary" data? Do you have to quit? Who gets access to historical data? These things might be worth an article on CP, eh?
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James Spibey wrote: I think you may be misunderstanding how it works No, no. I understood. Just think about the valuable information which IP address is listening to which artist and which song. That is something the RIAA type of people are interested in. All those wonderful lists of IP addresses listening to a song that is not yet available in stores at the location of the IP address. Keep this information in sync with popular downloads and some other log information and you track "possible music pirates" with ease. It is no longer the good intention that counts. :(
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Ho do you determine from a .mp3 if it's a legit copy or not?
"Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
sighist | Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: Ho do you determine from a .mp3 if it's a legit copy or not? Do you need to when you are the RIAA? :) On the more serious side, it does not matter. It just depends on the use and timing. As I mentioned in another post, when you listen to a song which is not yet published where you live, you have a hard time explaining.
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Damn James, that's a cool idea! I'll have to check it out when I get home though. Seems like it'll really help me out in my quest for decent techno/upbeat/dance music as I never hear the songs on the radio and the CD labels rarely say, "this song sucks; don't buy." (*Falcon).Jeremy 141² 150 162² 145 143² 164
Try this: http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=416&file=filename.pls[^] and this: http://www.winamp.com/[^]
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
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I can see your point, but as is true with a lot of things those who have done nothing wrong have nothing to hide. It is an opt-in system and because it is open source (plugins and server code) you can see exactly what information is being sent back and forth. I agree that many people would be worried if Microsoft or someone set this sort of system up because they would most likely be feeding that information back to the RIAA in some way but this is a community project and those who don't like the idea of it don't have to participate. :) I personally think it's a great idea - I've spent that last couple of years thinking about writing something very similar so it's nice to see it finally up and running. Cheers James
I can see another possibility - all that info about who likes what could be useful to RIAA members for deliberately previewing songs and identifying people who might like to buy the products. They could choose to take advantage of all the free marketing information, rather than attack it as a potential threat. Of course that would require intelligent, rational thinking from Marketing types and lawyers... What are the odds? "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom
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Try this: http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=416&file=filename.pls[^] and this: http://www.winamp.com/[^]
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
Thanks. (*Falcon).Jeremy 141² 150 162² 145 143² 164
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Hey Guys, I've been invloved with a project over the last couple of months called AudioScrobbler[^]. It's an open-source project started by a guy called RJ as a University Final Year project. The aim of the project is to link people togther who have similar tastes in music in order to help people find new music which they'll enjoy. The project has only been running a few months but there is quite a healthy community developing (~4000 users). <edit> I should point out that the site will only suggest artists which are similar to the ones you have played so far. It's up to the user to then go out and buy the album or whatever. You cannot access any music directly using this tool. </edit> All you need to do to join is register on the web site and download a plugin for your favourite music app. There are plugins for most major apps such as Winamp2, Winamp3, QCDPlayer, XMMS, iTunes etc etc. Once you have the plugin, when you have played a song 50% of the way through the plugin will send details of the song to the server. This information is then used to link you to other members. Anyway, there's loads more info on the site so if you are interested go ahead and have a look. Cheers James
Sounds like a cool idea. I'm always interested in learning about new artists. I use a pay-service, Rhapsody, and like the way they have artists set up. There is a little blurb on the artist when available, an assigned genre, Similar Artists, Influences, Followers, Related projects, helps to explore with this extra info. it's alot more extra work to get that info, but it may help narrowing down queries. For example: I queried NIN, and as number 4 or 5 Eminem came up. People often listen to both NIN and Eminem, but they aren't really similar artists. Not trying to bag on the program in anyway, I think there is good potential for it. Just some constructive criticism of what I saw. Hope you dont mind it. :) I like the forums. BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin