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    Dilbert explains how much you should work when WFH (all the way back in 1995). https://assets.amuniversal.com/834124b09fa6012f2fe600163e41dd5b[^]

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      Dilbert explains how much you should work when WFH (all the way back in 1995). https://assets.amuniversal.com/834124b09fa6012f2fe600163e41dd5b[^]

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      I just made that same argument, the saving the planet part, on our ask-cpo type slack channel. They're wanting everyone who lives less than 40 miles from the office to come in 3 days a week. If I did that I would lose 3 hours of my day. The southern US states don't do public transportation. Yes, I did ask if that is via road or as the crow flies. My over the road distance is 31 miles.

      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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        I just made that same argument, the saving the planet part, on our ask-cpo type slack channel. They're wanting everyone who lives less than 40 miles from the office to come in 3 days a week. If I did that I would lose 3 hours of my day. The southern US states don't do public transportation. Yes, I did ask if that is via road or as the crow flies. My over the road distance is 31 miles.

        I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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        And, they have no idea how having you at the office for 3 days of the week will even affect productivity. It's just a total guess and it makes no sense. They're just flailing at answers like they've always flailed. Edit - And, of course the resolution is to simply move 9 miles further away from work. :D

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          And, they have no idea how having you at the office for 3 days of the week will even affect productivity. It's just a total guess and it makes no sense. They're just flailing at answers like they've always flailed. Edit - And, of course the resolution is to simply move 9 miles further away from work. :D

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          raddevus wrote:

          Edit - And, of course the resolution is to simply move 9 miles further away from work. :-D

          Oh, they've already addressed that, if you do move you still have to come in because your move was simply to get outside the ring. No, I am not kidding.

          I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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            And, they have no idea how having you at the office for 3 days of the week will even affect productivity. It's just a total guess and it makes no sense. They're just flailing at answers like they've always flailed. Edit - And, of course the resolution is to simply move 9 miles further away from work. :D

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            All they really know is how much they're paying for that office and they want to keep it filled.

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            • raddevusR raddevus

              Dilbert explains how much you should work when WFH (all the way back in 1995). https://assets.amuniversal.com/834124b09fa6012f2fe600163e41dd5b[^]

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              [Graybow Communications Social: Dilbert: Telecommunication](https://graybowsocial.blogspot.com/2013/01/dilbert-telecommunication.html)

              "Mistakes are prevented by Experience. Experience is gained by making mistakes."

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                All they really know is how much they're paying for that office and they want to keep it filled.

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                Which is weird: for decades the bean counters have been trying to reduce the size of office space to save money. Close 'em all and have all employees work from home (and pay for their own heating, lighting, and electricity) and you'll save a ton of money* * Except you can't sell the office space because accountants are like sheep - if one saves £0.10 on a £100 product by firing all the manufacturing staff and moving it to slave labour in China they all follow suit.

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  I just made that same argument, the saving the planet part, on our ask-cpo type slack channel. They're wanting everyone who lives less than 40 miles from the office to come in 3 days a week. If I did that I would lose 3 hours of my day. The southern US states don't do public transportation. Yes, I did ask if that is via road or as the crow flies. My over the road distance is 31 miles.

                  I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                  MarkTJohnson wrote:

                  My over the road distance is 31 miles.

                  Google maps lets you choose alternative routes. Can't you just choose one that is over 40? (This is both a joke and somewhat serious.)

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                    raddevus wrote:

                    Edit - And, of course the resolution is to simply move 9 miles further away from work. :-D

                    Oh, they've already addressed that, if you do move you still have to come in because your move was simply to get outside the ring. No, I am not kidding.

                    I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                    ok...yeah then that sounds like a good reason to at least look around to see what other jobs might be available. Seems unlikely that sort of attitude does not extend to other parts of the company.

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                      MarkTJohnson wrote:

                      My over the road distance is 31 miles.

                      Google maps lets you choose alternative routes. Can't you just choose one that is over 40? (This is both a joke and somewhat serious.)

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                      I already looked at that, I'm in Atlanta and if I use Interstate 75 it the 31 miles, if I come in via Interstate 20 it becomes 40.6 miles to the office.

                      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                        ok...yeah then that sounds like a good reason to at least look around to see what other jobs might be available. Seems unlikely that sort of attitude does not extend to other parts of the company.

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                        Managment 2 levels above me lives in rural Montana and they know this teams works well all remotely so we're all hoping they say keep everything as status quo. I started working remotely a year BEFORE Covid hit.

                        I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                          I just made that same argument, the saving the planet part, on our ask-cpo type slack channel. They're wanting everyone who lives less than 40 miles from the office to come in 3 days a week. If I did that I would lose 3 hours of my day. The southern US states don't do public transportation. Yes, I did ask if that is via road or as the crow flies. My over the road distance is 31 miles.

                          I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                          I think they don't like paying for a lot of empty office space. All the rationalizations my employer made for coming back in ring hollow to me. "Better team work/collaboration/face-to-face socialization"... uh huh, right.

                          There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
                             - Thomas Sowell

                          A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
                             - Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)

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                            Which is weird: for decades the bean counters have been trying to reduce the size of office space to save money. Close 'em all and have all employees work from home (and pay for their own heating, lighting, and electricity) and you'll save a ton of money* * Except you can't sell the office space because accountants are like sheep - if one saves £0.10 on a £100 product by firing all the manufacturing staff and moving it to slave labour in China they all follow suit.

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            Yes, but they probably have leases that won't expire for a few years, or real estate that isn't liquid.

                            There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
                               - Thomas Sowell

                            A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
                               - Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)

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                              I think they don't like paying for a lot of empty office space. All the rationalizations my employer made for coming back in ring hollow to me. "Better team work/collaboration/face-to-face socialization"... uh huh, right.

                              There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
                                 - Thomas Sowell

                              A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
                                 - Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)

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                              Those were almost the exact words spoken by the muckity-mucks in the all hands meeting.

                              I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                                I already looked at that, I'm in Atlanta and if I use Interstate 75 it the 31 miles, if I come in via Interstate 20 it becomes 40.6 miles to the office.

                                I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                                englebart
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                                take the long way out of your neighborhood…or “add a stop” for your favorite coffee shop

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                                  Those were almost the exact words spoken by the muckity-mucks in the all hands meeting.

                                  I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                                  TNCaver
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                                  HR departments and C-Level folks seem to all think alike.

                                  There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
                                     - Thomas Sowell

                                  A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
                                     - Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)

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                                    I already looked at that, I'm in Atlanta and if I use Interstate 75 it the 31 miles, if I come in via Interstate 20 it becomes 40.6 miles to the office.

                                    I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                                    jschell
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                                    MarkTJohnson wrote:

                                    becomes 40.6 miles to the office.

                                    Sounds like the route to take then!

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                                      I just made that same argument, the saving the planet part, on our ask-cpo type slack channel. They're wanting everyone who lives less than 40 miles from the office to come in 3 days a week. If I did that I would lose 3 hours of my day. The southern US states don't do public transportation. Yes, I did ask if that is via road or as the crow flies. My over the road distance is 31 miles.

                                      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                                      they are trying to justify all that office space they bought, built and/or rented

                                      To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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