How kraut-socis indoctrinate kids
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From child web site, sponsored by kraut-soci states (yep, taxpayers money involved)... Source: http://www.helles-koepfchen.de/[^] Sample 1: Inconsiderate Superpower When Germany has so much to thank the USA for - how is it then that so many Germans can't stand the leader of the United States? The answer is simple: It has to do with George W. Bush's politics, that many people see as very inconsiderate. Because he allowed the entire world feel that the USA is the only remaining superpower on earth after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. The previous President of the USA, Bill Clinton, also had a lot of power. But, unlike his successor, he did not show it so openly. Clinton wanted to solve the problems of the world together with as many nations as possible. George W. Bush, by contrast, really didn't care whether other nations agreed with his policies or not. He simply did what he wanted. In any case, he is the most powerful man in the world, and no one can do anything against his decisions. And he knows that too. That showed itself with great clarity during the Iraq War. ----- Sample 2: Violation of International Law Actually, only the most important committee of the United Nations, "the UN Security Council", can allow the attack on a nation. When the Security Council, however, does not grant permission and a nation still attacks another nation - then that is a violation on the part of the attacker against international law. And that is exactly what George W. Bush did in the Iraq war. Except for a few exceptions, all nations were upset by Bush's arbitrary and inconsiderate action. ----- Sample 3: (one of the links from their section on nations, which explains USA to kids)... Source: http://www.helles-koepfchen.de/beitrag.asp?id=340[^] ...leads to this text The WTC Conspiracy LIII The anniversary of the events is nearing, time to summarize, what we learned in the first school year "WTC-Conspiracy." 1) We learned that the "war on terrorism" from Bush & Co. does not serve the purposes of capturing those responsible for 9/11, but instead an ongoing campaign for the establishment of a global Pax Amer
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From child web site, sponsored by kraut-soci states (yep, taxpayers money involved)... Source: http://www.helles-koepfchen.de/[^] Sample 1: Inconsiderate Superpower When Germany has so much to thank the USA for - how is it then that so many Germans can't stand the leader of the United States? The answer is simple: It has to do with George W. Bush's politics, that many people see as very inconsiderate. Because he allowed the entire world feel that the USA is the only remaining superpower on earth after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. The previous President of the USA, Bill Clinton, also had a lot of power. But, unlike his successor, he did not show it so openly. Clinton wanted to solve the problems of the world together with as many nations as possible. George W. Bush, by contrast, really didn't care whether other nations agreed with his policies or not. He simply did what he wanted. In any case, he is the most powerful man in the world, and no one can do anything against his decisions. And he knows that too. That showed itself with great clarity during the Iraq War. ----- Sample 2: Violation of International Law Actually, only the most important committee of the United Nations, "the UN Security Council", can allow the attack on a nation. When the Security Council, however, does not grant permission and a nation still attacks another nation - then that is a violation on the part of the attacker against international law. And that is exactly what George W. Bush did in the Iraq war. Except for a few exceptions, all nations were upset by Bush's arbitrary and inconsiderate action. ----- Sample 3: (one of the links from their section on nations, which explains USA to kids)... Source: http://www.helles-koepfchen.de/beitrag.asp?id=340[^] ...leads to this text The WTC Conspiracy LIII The anniversary of the events is nearing, time to summarize, what we learned in the first school year "WTC-Conspiracy." 1) We learned that the "war on terrorism" from Bush & Co. does not serve the purposes of capturing those responsible for 9/11, but instead an ongoing campaign for the establishment of a global Pax Amer
They're actually teaching this crap to their kids? ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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From child web site, sponsored by kraut-soci states (yep, taxpayers money involved)... Source: http://www.helles-koepfchen.de/[^] Sample 1: Inconsiderate Superpower When Germany has so much to thank the USA for - how is it then that so many Germans can't stand the leader of the United States? The answer is simple: It has to do with George W. Bush's politics, that many people see as very inconsiderate. Because he allowed the entire world feel that the USA is the only remaining superpower on earth after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. The previous President of the USA, Bill Clinton, also had a lot of power. But, unlike his successor, he did not show it so openly. Clinton wanted to solve the problems of the world together with as many nations as possible. George W. Bush, by contrast, really didn't care whether other nations agreed with his policies or not. He simply did what he wanted. In any case, he is the most powerful man in the world, and no one can do anything against his decisions. And he knows that too. That showed itself with great clarity during the Iraq War. ----- Sample 2: Violation of International Law Actually, only the most important committee of the United Nations, "the UN Security Council", can allow the attack on a nation. When the Security Council, however, does not grant permission and a nation still attacks another nation - then that is a violation on the part of the attacker against international law. And that is exactly what George W. Bush did in the Iraq war. Except for a few exceptions, all nations were upset by Bush's arbitrary and inconsiderate action. ----- Sample 3: (one of the links from their section on nations, which explains USA to kids)... Source: http://www.helles-koepfchen.de/beitrag.asp?id=340[^] ...leads to this text The WTC Conspiracy LIII The anniversary of the events is nearing, time to summarize, what we learned in the first school year "WTC-Conspiracy." 1) We learned that the "war on terrorism" from Bush & Co. does not serve the purposes of capturing those responsible for 9/11, but instead an ongoing campaign for the establishment of a global Pax Amer
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From child web site, sponsored by kraut-soci states (yep, taxpayers money involved)... Source: http://www.helles-koepfchen.de/[^] Sample 1: Inconsiderate Superpower When Germany has so much to thank the USA for - how is it then that so many Germans can't stand the leader of the United States? The answer is simple: It has to do with George W. Bush's politics, that many people see as very inconsiderate. Because he allowed the entire world feel that the USA is the only remaining superpower on earth after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. The previous President of the USA, Bill Clinton, also had a lot of power. But, unlike his successor, he did not show it so openly. Clinton wanted to solve the problems of the world together with as many nations as possible. George W. Bush, by contrast, really didn't care whether other nations agreed with his policies or not. He simply did what he wanted. In any case, he is the most powerful man in the world, and no one can do anything against his decisions. And he knows that too. That showed itself with great clarity during the Iraq War. ----- Sample 2: Violation of International Law Actually, only the most important committee of the United Nations, "the UN Security Council", can allow the attack on a nation. When the Security Council, however, does not grant permission and a nation still attacks another nation - then that is a violation on the part of the attacker against international law. And that is exactly what George W. Bush did in the Iraq war. Except for a few exceptions, all nations were upset by Bush's arbitrary and inconsiderate action. ----- Sample 3: (one of the links from their section on nations, which explains USA to kids)... Source: http://www.helles-koepfchen.de/beitrag.asp?id=340[^] ...leads to this text The WTC Conspiracy LIII The anniversary of the events is nearing, time to summarize, what we learned in the first school year "WTC-Conspiracy." 1) We learned that the "war on terrorism" from Bush & Co. does not serve the purposes of capturing those responsible for 9/11, but instead an ongoing campaign for the establishment of a global Pax Amer
Funny - reading the translations I immediately thought of the crapy misleading service of this guy[^] - guess what! Sample 1: So what? What's your (or Davids) Problem with that? Sample 2: -"- Sample 3: (1) this is a link to an external web site (heise.de), which is not publicly sponsored (2) at the bottom of the article you find enough feedback to put it into perspective (even if you don't like this either) Personal Note: If this link makes you unhappy, I'm glad I pay taxes for it.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
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Erm, so what's your point exactly? That the US is the big bad wolf or what? What are you trying to tell us?
BruceN wrote:
That the US is the big bad wolf or what?
No, Germany is commieland and someone should invade it to free me of these evildoers.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
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Funny - reading the translations I immediately thought of the crapy misleading service of this guy[^] - guess what! Sample 1: So what? What's your (or Davids) Problem with that? Sample 2: -"- Sample 3: (1) this is a link to an external web site (heise.de), which is not publicly sponsored (2) at the bottom of the article you find enough feedback to put it into perspective (even if you don't like this either) Personal Note: If this link makes you unhappy, I'm glad I pay taxes for it.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighistpeterchen wrote:
this is a link to an external web site (heise.de), which is not publicly sponsored
If a publicly sponsered site links to it than obviously it is publicly sponserd. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes."
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They're actually teaching this crap to their kids? ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
Yep. And they don't know what is wrong with that...
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peterchen wrote:
this is a link to an external web site (heise.de), which is not publicly sponsored
If a publicly sponsered site links to it than obviously it is publicly sponserd. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes."
C'mon, you sound like a Sony Lawyer. The link is neither very prominent, nor is the article linked to well suited for leading unsuspecting free kids into america hating. The contents sticks out from the others, and I wouldn't mind the link be gone, but what the Štih Gang makes out of it is a paranoia that would make McCartney proud.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist -
BruceN wrote:
That the US is the big bad wolf or what?
No, Germany is commieland and someone should invade it to free me of these evildoers.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighistpeterchen wrote:
someone should invade it to free me of these evildoers.
:laugh:
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Funny - reading the translations I immediately thought of the crapy misleading service of this guy[^] - guess what! Sample 1: So what? What's your (or Davids) Problem with that? Sample 2: -"- Sample 3: (1) this is a link to an external web site (heise.de), which is not publicly sponsored (2) at the bottom of the article you find enough feedback to put it into perspective (even if you don't like this either) Personal Note: If this link makes you unhappy, I'm glad I pay taxes for it.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighistpeterchen wrote:
Funny - reading the translations I immediately thought of the crapy misleading service of this guy[^] - guess what!
You mean Tomaž has been plagiarising? Surely not! What do you think the problem might be? That people from ex-communist countries don't understand the concept of intellectual property rights? John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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C'mon, you sound like a Sony Lawyer. The link is neither very prominent, nor is the article linked to well suited for leading unsuspecting free kids into america hating. The contents sticks out from the others, and I wouldn't mind the link be gone, but what the Štih Gang makes out of it is a paranoia that would make McCartney proud.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighistpeterchen wrote:
Štih Gang makes out of it is a paranoia that would make McCartney proud.
What's Paul have to be paranoid about? :laugh: Or did you mean McCarthy - my hero? At least their paranoia is not being funded and promulgated by the state in this case. Its all a question of who's paranoia is the most valid. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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peterchen wrote:
Štih Gang makes out of it is a paranoia that would make McCartney proud.
What's Paul have to be paranoid about? :laugh: Or did you mean McCarthy - my hero? At least their paranoia is not being funded and promulgated by the state in this case. Its all a question of who's paranoia is the most valid. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
:laugh: :laugh: :doh: second time I mix up McCartney with someone else - probably there#s a suitable consipracy theory to be found.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
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peterchen wrote:
Funny - reading the translations I immediately thought of the crapy misleading service of this guy[^] - guess what!
You mean Tomaž has been plagiarising? Surely not! What do you think the problem might be? That people from ex-communist countries don't understand the concept of intellectual property rights? John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
He regulary links to it, but until now he gave away his sources. It's not that he copies of it (I think the cursive is indicator enough that he's quoting), but this David guy has a tendency to give his translations.. well, a tendency. (And for the record: I'm from an "ex-communist country", too ;) )
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
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peterchen wrote:
Funny - reading the translations I immediately thought of the crapy misleading service of this guy[^] - guess what!
You mean Tomaž has been plagiarising? Surely not! What do you think the problem might be? That people from ex-communist countries don't understand the concept of intellectual property rights? John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
The problem is that you're dealing with Tomaž instead of the topic. Which is behaviour that is quite typical for the Karl-peterchen-Carson gang. Remember - the topic is if the "social truth" is really apropriate material for kids who don't have defense mechanisms against these manipulations?
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The problem is that you're dealing with Tomaž instead of the topic. Which is behaviour that is quite typical for the Karl-peterchen-Carson gang. Remember - the topic is if the "social truth" is really apropriate material for kids who don't have defense mechanisms against these manipulations?
Actually this problem is similar to religion in school. Socialism or extreme leftism is sort of secular religion, after all. We should have laws about the separation of state and leftist ideology.
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The problem is that you're dealing with Tomaž instead of the topic. Which is behaviour that is quite typical for the Karl-peterchen-Carson gang. Remember - the topic is if the "social truth" is really apropriate material for kids who don't have defense mechanisms against these manipulations?
Tomaž Štih wrote:
The problem is that you're dealing with Tomaž instead of the topic. Which is behaviour that is quite typical for the Karl-peterchen-Carson gang. Remember - the topic is if the "social truth" is really apropriate material for kids who don't have defense mechanisms against these manipulations?
Actually, I think Tomaž is very much the topic. We are given links to German-language web-sites and are supposed to accept that the selected excerpts offered in translation give a balanced indication of the content of those sites. I view that with a high level of scepticism. I might also remark that if we could see inside classrooms in Texas, the presentations we would observe concerning the role of the US in the world probably wouldn't be entirely unbiased. John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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BruceN wrote:
That the US is the big bad wolf or what?
No, Germany is commieland and someone should invade it to free me of these evildoers.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighistGermany is not commieland and there are some very decent people there. For example, Paul Kirchof. Regardless of the fact that you don't like that - I do differentiate between Germans and kraut-socis. The latter are the enemy.
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Tomaž Štih wrote:
The problem is that you're dealing with Tomaž instead of the topic. Which is behaviour that is quite typical for the Karl-peterchen-Carson gang. Remember - the topic is if the "social truth" is really apropriate material for kids who don't have defense mechanisms against these manipulations?
Actually, I think Tomaž is very much the topic. We are given links to German-language web-sites and are supposed to accept that the selected excerpts offered in translation give a balanced indication of the content of those sites. I view that with a high level of scepticism. I might also remark that if we could see inside classrooms in Texas, the presentations we would observe concerning the role of the US in the world probably wouldn't be entirely unbiased. John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
John Carson wrote:
I might also remark that if we could see inside classrooms in Texas, the presentations we would observe concerning the role of the US in the world probably wouldn't be entirely unbiased.
And, consequently, you should teach children this "fact" so that they "understand" the world "correctly"?
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Germany is not commieland and there are some very decent people there. For example, Paul Kirchof. Regardless of the fact that you don't like that - I do differentiate between Germans and kraut-socis. The latter are the enemy.
Tomaž Štih wrote:
Germany is not commieland
Yes folks! You heard it here first. Germany is NOT commieland! :jig: ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell
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Tomaž Štih wrote:
Germany is not commieland
Yes folks! You heard it here first. Germany is NOT commieland! :jig: ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell
...but parts of the population are deeply anti-american and indoctrination of kids is one of the reasons for it.