'Honor killings' on rise in Europe
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kgaddy wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I’m sensing you post is meant to show that this is not isolated to Islam.
And if you read your own post about sharia, you would see the two are orthogonal. Relevant parts quoted below.
kgaddy wrote:
Yes, this happens in the US, Europe and everywhere else in the world.
Probably in far greater numbers.
kgaddy wrote:
In Muslim countries, they still punish men if they rape their daughters.
Good! If this ever does happen the person should get the ultimate punishment. "Honor killings" are, in the Western world, often erroneously identified as part of Islamic teaching, though they are in fact a cultural practice which is neither exclusive to, nor universal within, the Islamic world. Such killings take place within the Muslim communities around the Mediterranean as well as in the Punjab, India,[8] non-Muslim parts of West Africa, and in Central America; while in Indonesia, the world's largest Islamic country, the status of the practice is unknown. The stated reason for honor killings is the belief that the woman had caused the clan or family to lose honor by her alleged sexual activity and therefore deserved to be killed. Islamic teaching holds that life is given by Allah and should not be taken lightly
Quran Lectures (updated 1/3/06) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
Salam Bro he`s like that ,don`t you know that,this dumbass man just google the most anti-islamic site then he reads the title and runs to make a post on CP against islam,he never bothers to read the entire content. what yo quouted here,i had read that too,but i consider tht its pathetic for me to argue for something which don`t exist and even mentioned in article.
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I believe this happens in Muslim society more because of the way women are treated. I do not believe every Muslim condones this practice. It seems to be increasing in Europe among the Muslim population. Maybe you, as a Muslim, have some incite as to why this is happening? Do Muslims that do not believe in these practices talk about this? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
i thnk you were here to dicuss thoughts of author of article NOT yours?keep your crappy preachings to yourself
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Nice sig - the second part. :) Cheers, Vikram.
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???? you are a born bull$hit,what point are you trying to make? before that you cme up with a story and linked up with shariah now this crap!its stupiduty to argue with a person who can`t carry on conversation sensibily
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There's a swedish saying that goes something like this: "Do not throw rock if you live in a glass house". :)
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???? you are a born bull$hit,what point are you trying to make? before that you cme up with a story and linked up with shariah now this crap!its stupiduty to argue with a person who can`t carry on conversation sensibily
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you are a born bull$hit,what point are you trying to make? before that you cme up with a story and linked up with shariah now this crap!its stupiduty to argue with a person who can`t carry on conversation sensibily
You should be happy. Getting one of your quotes into somebody's sig is a great ego trip. There's no such thing as bad publicity :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Thanks to you, Adnan, yes. :) But I thought Stan was supposed to be my mommy. :~ Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you are a born bull$hit,what point are you trying to make? before that you cme up with a story and linked up with shariah now this crap!its stupiduty to argue with a person who can`t carry on conversation sensibily
You should be happy. Getting one of your quotes into somebody's sig is a great ego trip. There's no such thing as bad publicity :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
You should be happy. Getting one of your quotes into somebody's sig is a great ego trip. There's no such thing as bad publicity
While I believe you should be able to quote anybody freely, Adnan's quote only shows people how stupid he is, so I can imagine why he's pi$$ed. I completely agree that getting into somebody's sig is a major ego boost (normally). :cool: Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.
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what the hell is your problem? My simple advice, if you dont like somebody's opinion, counter argue it. Give your point of view instead of abusing them. I have been watching your post for past 2 weeks, and there is a pattern.If you dont like anybody, you are abusing them and if somebody supports them, you lose your mind. cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it -- modified at 5:41 Tuesday 17th January, 2006
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Back in the good old days, if something like this was known about someone, the locals would get together and beat the crap out of him. My father in law was a cop, and he got together a group of off duty officers and visited a bloke who was beating on his wife. That's the way to handle people like that, IMO. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
Back in the good old days, if something like this was known about someone, the locals would get together and beat the crap out of him. My father in law was a cop, and he got together a group of off duty officers and visited a bloke who was beating on his wife.
I think you have a very romantic view of the old days. I think the more typical response was to blame the wife. John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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Salam Bro he`s like that ,don`t you know that,this dumbass man just google the most anti-islamic site then he reads the title and runs to make a post on CP against islam,he never bothers to read the entire content. what yo quouted here,i had read that too,but i consider tht its pathetic for me to argue for something which don`t exist and even mentioned in article.
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Ah, are we in denial Adnan? It exists and happens; Family found guilty of 'honour' killing[^] A sick and twisted a cultural practice as exists anywhere in the world today. Rhys [Lotus Notes] is death by a thousand tiny annoyances—the digital equivalent of being kicked in the groin upon arrival at work every day. Jeff Atwater In the 60s, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
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what the hell is your problem? My simple advice, if you dont like somebody's opinion, counter argue it. Give your point of view instead of abusing them. I have been watching your post for past 2 weeks, and there is a pattern.If you dont like anybody, you are abusing them and if somebody supports them, you lose your mind. cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it -- modified at 5:41 Tuesday 17th January, 2006
seesh,you are watchin nothing,did you bother to drop a line to kgaddy?
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Ah, are we in denial Adnan? It exists and happens; Family found guilty of 'honour' killing[^] A sick and twisted a cultural practice as exists anywhere in the world today. Rhys [Lotus Notes] is death by a thousand tiny annoyances—the digital equivalent of being kicked in the groin upon arrival at work every day. Jeff Atwater In the 60s, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
no i think you are too ignorant to admit the fact that such killing has no asspciation with any religion. lots of women are killed in USA and Europe for sake of honor killings and they ain`t muslims at all,its really lame that every evil thing is associated with islam and follower of other religions forget evil things in their own religion,sad very sad
Rhys666 wrote:
A sick and twisted a cultural practice as exists anywhere in the world today.
yes right but it has no associated with religion as author of article also mentioned it.
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Thanks to you, Adnan, yes. :) But I thought Stan was supposed to be my mommy. :~ Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.
oh sorry,i am sorry,i had forgot that Stan is american and in america ,most of kids dont know name of their fathers,i apologize
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what the hell is your problem? My simple advice, if you dont like somebody's opinion, counter argue it. Give your point of view instead of abusing them. I have been watching your post for past 2 weeks, and there is a pattern.If you dont like anybody, you are abusing them and if somebody supports them, you lose your mind. cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it -- modified at 5:41 Tuesday 17th January, 2006
me and vikram love each other,mind ur own business
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There's a swedish saying that goes something like this: "Do not throw rock if you live in a glass house". :)
who`s in glass castle here?;)
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you are a born bull$hit,what point are you trying to make? before that you cme up with a story and linked up with shariah now this crap!its stupiduty to argue with a person who can`t carry on conversation sensibily
You should be happy. Getting one of your quotes into somebody's sig is a great ego trip. There's no such thing as bad publicity :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
yeah..but he could use url of my blogs too,why only name,thats what made me mad :mad:
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Michael P Butler wrote:
You should be happy. Getting one of your quotes into somebody's sig is a great ego trip. There's no such thing as bad publicity
While I believe you should be able to quote anybody freely, Adnan's quote only shows people how stupid he is, so I can imagine why he's pi$$ed. I completely agree that getting into somebody's sig is a major ego boost (normally). :cool: Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.
i didnt know people here judge others by reading Sigs?i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron ;)
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me and vikram love each other,mind ur own business
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I'm not gay, thank you. Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton. i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron - Adnan Siddiqi.
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what the hell is your problem? My simple advice, if you dont like somebody's opinion, counter argue it. Give your point of view instead of abusing them. I have been watching your post for past 2 weeks, and there is a pattern.If you dont like anybody, you are abusing them and if somebody supports them, you lose your mind. cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it -- modified at 5:41 Tuesday 17th January, 2006
super wrote:
If you dont like anybody, you are abusing them and if somebody supports them, you lose your mind.
Not very different from 'if you're not with us, you're against us'. The only difference is there's no 'us'. Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton. i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron - Adnan Siddiqi.
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no i think you are too ignorant to admit the fact that such killing has no asspciation with any religion. lots of women are killed in USA and Europe for sake of honor killings and they ain`t muslims at all,its really lame that every evil thing is associated with islam and follower of other religions forget evil things in their own religion,sad very sad
Rhys666 wrote:
A sick and twisted a cultural practice as exists anywhere in the world today.
yes right but it has no associated with religion as author of article also mentioned it.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
lots of women are killed in USA and Europe for sake of honor killings and they ain`t muslims at all
Cite? Evidence maybe? Or should we just accept what your saying as you think we should?
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
its really lame that every evil thing is associated with islam and follower of other religions forget evil things in their own religion
I'm an atheist, I don't follow any religion. I don't like the homophobic stance of 90% of the worlds religions, I don't like the Catholic Churches protection of child abusing priests. In my opinion, there is wrong, and wrongdoers, in all organised religions. Don't just blindly protect yours because the charges being levelled against are so appalling. The Catholic Church denied complicity for their silence over the attempted extermination of the Jews during the second world war but have since had to issue an apolgy. Why don't Muslim/Islamic leaders decry this practice with more vigor? Why don't you decry it when it does? As per the example of the Catholic Church, silence (IMHO) is non-verbal complicity and as deserving of vitriolic response as the act itself, and just because you choose not to see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Rhys [Lotus Notes] is death by a thousand tiny annoyances—the digital equivalent of being kicked in the groin upon arrival at work every day. Jeff Atwater In the 60s, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.