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  • S super

    what the hell is your problem? My simple advice, if you dont like somebody's opinion, counter argue it. Give your point of view instead of abusing them. I have been watching your post for past 2 weeks, and there is a pattern.If you dont like anybody, you are abusing them and if somebody supports them, you lose your mind. cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it -- modified at 5:41 Tuesday 17th January, 2006

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    Adnan Siddiqi
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    me and vikram love each other,mind ur own business

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      There's a swedish saying that goes something like this: "Do not throw rock if you live in a glass house". :)

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      who`s in glass castle here?;)

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      • M Michael P Butler

        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

        you are a born bull$hit,what point are you trying to make? before that you cme up with a story and linked up with shariah now this crap!its stupiduty to argue with a person who can`t carry on conversation sensibily

        You should be happy. Getting one of your quotes into somebody's sig is a great ego trip. There's no such thing as bad publicity :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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        yeah..but he could use url of my blogs too,why only name,thats what made me mad :mad:

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        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

          Michael P Butler wrote:

          You should be happy. Getting one of your quotes into somebody's sig is a great ego trip. There's no such thing as bad publicity

          While I believe you should be able to quote anybody freely, Adnan's quote only shows people how stupid he is, so I can imagine why he's pi$$ed. I completely agree that getting into somebody's sig is a major ego boost (normally). :cool: Cheers, Vikram.


          "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.

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          i didnt know people here judge others by reading Sigs?i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron ;)

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          • A Adnan Siddiqi

            me and vikram love each other,mind ur own business

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            Vikram A Punathambekar
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            I'm not gay, thank you. Cheers, Vikram.


            "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton. i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron - Adnan Siddiqi.

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            • S super

              what the hell is your problem? My simple advice, if you dont like somebody's opinion, counter argue it. Give your point of view instead of abusing them. I have been watching your post for past 2 weeks, and there is a pattern.If you dont like anybody, you are abusing them and if somebody supports them, you lose your mind. cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it -- modified at 5:41 Tuesday 17th January, 2006

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              super wrote:

              If you dont like anybody, you are abusing them and if somebody supports them, you lose your mind.

              Not very different from 'if you're not with us, you're against us'. The only difference is there's no 'us'. Cheers, Vikram.


              "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton. i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron - Adnan Siddiqi.

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              • A Adnan Siddiqi

                no i think you are too ignorant to admit the fact that such killing has no asspciation with any religion. lots of women are killed in USA and Europe for sake of honor killings and they ain`t muslims at all,its really lame that every evil thing is associated with islam and follower of other religions forget evil things in their own religion,sad very sad

                Rhys666 wrote:

                A sick and twisted a cultural practice as exists anywhere in the world today.

                yes right but it has no associated with religion as author of article also mentioned it.

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                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                lots of women are killed in USA and Europe for sake of honor killings and they ain`t muslims at all

                Cite? Evidence maybe? Or should we just accept what your saying as you think we should?

                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                its really lame that every evil thing is associated with islam and follower of other religions forget evil things in their own religion

                I'm an atheist, I don't follow any religion. I don't like the homophobic stance of 90% of the worlds religions, I don't like the Catholic Churches protection of child abusing priests. In my opinion, there is wrong, and wrongdoers, in all organised religions. Don't just blindly protect yours because the charges being levelled against are so appalling. The Catholic Church denied complicity for their silence over the attempted extermination of the Jews during the second world war but have since had to issue an apolgy. Why don't Muslim/Islamic leaders decry this practice with more vigor? Why don't you decry it when it does? As per the example of the Catholic Church, silence (IMHO) is non-verbal complicity and as deserving of vitriolic response as the act itself, and just because you choose not to see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Rhys [Lotus Notes] is death by a thousand tiny annoyances—the digital equivalent of being kicked in the groin upon arrival at work every day. Jeff Atwater In the 60s, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

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                • A Adnan Siddiqi

                  ???? you are a born bull$hit,what point are you trying to make? before that you cme up with a story and linked up with shariah now this crap!its stupiduty to argue with a person who can`t carry on conversation sensibily

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                  If the sig hurts your feelings I would be happy to take it off. I just thought it was funny. Just let me know. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Back in the good old days, if something like this was known about someone, the locals would get together and beat the crap out of him. My father in law was a cop, and he got together a group of off duty officers and visited a bloke who was beating on his wife.

                    I think you have a very romantic view of the old days. I think the more typical response was to blame the wife. John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine

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                    To be honest, I'm not that old. I'm just relating what my father in law has told us. I'm sure there were also times when these things were swept under the carpet, and people sought not to 'interfere', but I'm refering to something that did specifically happen, and it's the only time in my life I've had respect for my father in law :-) Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                    • K kgaddy

                      If the sig hurts your feelings I would be happy to take it off. I just thought it was funny. Just let me know. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                      I think it's freakin' hilarious! I turned more than a few heads here at work with my explosive laughter as I read it! Thank you. That made my day.:laugh:

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                      • K kgaddy

                        If the sig hurts your feelings I would be happy to take it off. I just thought it was funny. Just let me know. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                        Adnan Siddiqi
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                        no not at all,it didnt hurt me anyway,the beauty of soapbox is that one could abuse to anyone freely. you may use whatever you want.

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                        • R Rhys Gravell

                          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                          lots of women are killed in USA and Europe for sake of honor killings and they ain`t muslims at all

                          Cite? Evidence maybe? Or should we just accept what your saying as you think we should?

                          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                          its really lame that every evil thing is associated with islam and follower of other religions forget evil things in their own religion

                          I'm an atheist, I don't follow any religion. I don't like the homophobic stance of 90% of the worlds religions, I don't like the Catholic Churches protection of child abusing priests. In my opinion, there is wrong, and wrongdoers, in all organised religions. Don't just blindly protect yours because the charges being levelled against are so appalling. The Catholic Church denied complicity for their silence over the attempted extermination of the Jews during the second world war but have since had to issue an apolgy. Why don't Muslim/Islamic leaders decry this practice with more vigor? Why don't you decry it when it does? As per the example of the Catholic Church, silence (IMHO) is non-verbal complicity and as deserving of vitriolic response as the act itself, and just because you choose not to see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Rhys [Lotus Notes] is death by a thousand tiny annoyances—the digital equivalent of being kicked in the groin upon arrival at work every day. Jeff Atwater In the 60s, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

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                          Rhys666 wrote:

                          Cite? Evidence maybe? Or should we just accept what your saying as you think we should?

                          no i am not asking you believe me blindly,in similar soapbox,this issue was discussed by same kgaddy and i had given him references about how woman is abused in usa which includes honor killings as well,yo may search cp`s soapbox forum first and then google.

                          Rhys666 wrote:

                          Why don't Muslim/Islamic leaders decry this practice with more vigor? Why don't you decry it when it does?

                          problem is that most of like majority you didnt read the source article ,.A.A alread highlited that even author is saying that honor killing is somethin which is culturual rather religious,such thing has nothing to do with religion anyway

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                          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                            super wrote:

                            If you dont like anybody, you are abusing them and if somebody supports them, you lose your mind.

                            Not very different from 'if you're not with us, you're against us'. The only difference is there's no 'us'. Cheers, Vikram.


                            "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton. i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                            Adnan Siddiqi
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                            why am i supposed to agree with someone?more on that,why on points which don`t exist at all.

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                            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                              I'm not gay, thank you. Cheers, Vikram.


                              "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton. i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                              Adnan Siddiqi
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                              yeah thatswhy you notice tight trousers of irfan pathan?:laugh:

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                              • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                I'm not gay, thank you. Cheers, Vikram.


                                "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton. i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                                Adnan Siddiqi
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                                i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron will it not be fair to replace Moron with your name? :rolleyes:

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                                  http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/01/16/for_muslim_women_a_deadly_defiance/?page=full [Edit]I think someone thinks the one votes will discredit the story...or even me???:laugh:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: How about try to make a point, if you can form one.[/Edit] My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" Adnan Siddiqi wrote: don`t try to be clever ass wid me while you can`t.. -- modified at 17:19 Monday 16th January, 2006

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                                  Do we have a statistics in "Honor killings per resident muslim family over the years"?


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                                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                    There's a swedish saying that goes something like this: "Do not throw rock if you live in a glass house". :)

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                                    It's international, but shouldn't the swedish version more sound like "hetering kommir granten kvädall"? The german version is "Wer im Glashaus sitzt soll nicht mit Steinen werfen" (Or, rather: Chwab Prost Achtung!")


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                                    • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                      yeah thatswhy you notice tight trousers of irfan pathan?:laugh:

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                                      Since you keep harping on this, could you please show me where I said that? Cheers, Vikram.


                                      "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton. i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                                        Since you keep harping on this, could you please show me where I said that? Cheers, Vikram.


                                        "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton. i dont mind to be a stupid,better than being a moron - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                                        Vikram Shannon wrote:

                                        could you please show me where I said that?

                                        Action speaks louder than words:rolleyes:

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                                        • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                          Rhys666 wrote:

                                          Cite? Evidence maybe? Or should we just accept what your saying as you think we should?

                                          no i am not asking you believe me blindly,in similar soapbox,this issue was discussed by same kgaddy and i had given him references about how woman is abused in usa which includes honor killings as well,yo may search cp`s soapbox forum first and then google.

                                          Rhys666 wrote:

                                          Why don't Muslim/Islamic leaders decry this practice with more vigor? Why don't you decry it when it does?

                                          problem is that most of like majority you didnt read the source article ,.A.A alread highlited that even author is saying that honor killing is somethin which is culturual rather religious,such thing has nothing to do with religion anyway

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                                          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                          .A.A alread highlited that even author is saying that honor killing is somethin which is culturual rather religious,such thing has nothing to do with religion anyway

                                          But this begs a question, Why is it on the rise in the muslim CULTURE? I think, and this is just an opinion, that they way women are treated, which is very bad, in the muslim community that some take it too far and just decide to kill these women when they become angry. After all, they are 2nd class citizens. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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