bin Laden's truce
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Osama speaks[^] Al-Jazeera on Thursday aired an audiotape from Osama bin Laden who says al-Qaida is making preparations for attacks in the United States but offers a truce on "fair" but undefined conditions :~ Ummm... so he's offering a truce, but warns he's still going to attack. I'm assuming he's trying to appeal only to his followers by seeming like he's taking the high road, but not showing weakness by doing so. Who falls for this shit? "We do not mind offering you a long-term truce with fair conditions that we adhere to," he said. "We are a nation that God has forbidden to lie and cheat. So both sides can enjoy security and stability under this truce so we can build Iraq and Afghanistan, which have been destroyed in this war." BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright-- modified at 15:32 Thursday 19th January, 2006
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Osama speaks[^] Al-Jazeera on Thursday aired an audiotape from Osama bin Laden who says al-Qaida is making preparations for attacks in the United States but offers a truce on "fair" but undefined conditions :~ Ummm... so he's offering a truce, but warns he's still going to attack. I'm assuming he's trying to appeal only to his followers by seeming like he's taking the high road, but not showing weakness by doing so. Who falls for this shit? "We do not mind offering you a long-term truce with fair conditions that we adhere to," he said. "We are a nation that God has forbidden to lie and cheat. So both sides can enjoy security and stability under this truce so we can build Iraq and Afghanistan, which have been destroyed in this war." BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright-- modified at 15:32 Thursday 19th January, 2006
Sounds like a Hammas truce. They just need a little time to rebuild. I say f'em and keep pushing hard. Somebody must be doing somthing right. Looks like the WOT is taking it's toll on these dirtbags. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" Kim0618 wrote: "the father of Bush's mother is also Bush's mother"
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Osama speaks[^] Al-Jazeera on Thursday aired an audiotape from Osama bin Laden who says al-Qaida is making preparations for attacks in the United States but offers a truce on "fair" but undefined conditions :~ Ummm... so he's offering a truce, but warns he's still going to attack. I'm assuming he's trying to appeal only to his followers by seeming like he's taking the high road, but not showing weakness by doing so. Who falls for this shit? "We do not mind offering you a long-term truce with fair conditions that we adhere to," he said. "We are a nation that God has forbidden to lie and cheat. So both sides can enjoy security and stability under this truce so we can build Iraq and Afghanistan, which have been destroyed in this war." BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright-- modified at 15:32 Thursday 19th January, 2006
brianwelsch wrote:
We are a nation that God has forbidden to lie and cheat
:laugh: But allows the slaughter innocents by the thousands in his name?!!! Find a new God and maybe we can do business. That one doesn't sound completely rational. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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Osama speaks[^] Al-Jazeera on Thursday aired an audiotape from Osama bin Laden who says al-Qaida is making preparations for attacks in the United States but offers a truce on "fair" but undefined conditions :~ Ummm... so he's offering a truce, but warns he's still going to attack. I'm assuming he's trying to appeal only to his followers by seeming like he's taking the high road, but not showing weakness by doing so. Who falls for this shit? "We do not mind offering you a long-term truce with fair conditions that we adhere to," he said. "We are a nation that God has forbidden to lie and cheat. So both sides can enjoy security and stability under this truce so we can build Iraq and Afghanistan, which have been destroyed in this war." BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright-- modified at 15:32 Thursday 19th January, 2006
...maybe we could agree to the truce and than just kill him - since secularism doens't forbid us to lie and cheat. :cool: "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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...maybe we could agree to the truce and than just kill him - since secularism doens't forbid us to lie and cheat. :cool: "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
So you're admitting that secularism has its advantages? ;P
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brianwelsch wrote:
We are a nation that God has forbidden to lie and cheat
:laugh: But allows the slaughter innocents by the thousands in his name?!!! Find a new God and maybe we can do business. That one doesn't sound completely rational. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
Ever heard of the Crusades? Do some research on the net, to educate yourself. You will see that the Islam's followers are not the only ones in history that has committed mass murders in the name of God. And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure. Religion, the source of all evil. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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Ever heard of the Crusades? Do some research on the net, to educate yourself. You will see that the Islam's followers are not the only ones in history that has committed mass murders in the name of God. And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure. Religion, the source of all evil. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Michel Prévost wrote:
Ever heard of the Crusades?
Oh well - if Christians did it hundreds of years ago it must be OK for Muslims to do it now?? How did that logic work with your parents? "Mom - he hit me first!":doh::doh: "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein Dave
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Ever heard of the Crusades? Do some research on the net, to educate yourself. You will see that the Islam's followers are not the only ones in history that has committed mass murders in the name of God. And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure. Religion, the source of all evil. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
We weren't discussing history. But thank's for brilliant insight anyway ... :rolleyes:
Michel Prévost wrote:
Do some research on the net, to educate yourself.
Obviously, thats where you got your education. At least it was free, eh? "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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Ever heard of the Crusades? Do some research on the net, to educate yourself. You will see that the Islam's followers are not the only ones in history that has committed mass murders in the name of God. And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure. Religion, the source of all evil. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Michel Prévost wrote:
And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure.
If some do believe this, they are uneducated. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" Kim0618 wrote: "the father of Bush's mother is also Bush's mother"
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Ever heard of the Crusades? Do some research on the net, to educate yourself. You will see that the Islam's followers are not the only ones in history that has committed mass murders in the name of God. And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure. Religion, the source of all evil. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
You are correct about the Crusades. The Muslims were killing innocents back then, as well. The difference? Christianity matured and the killing stopped. What happened with the Muslims? I'm not saying that all Muslims are bad, evil people. Heck, even Pat Robertson spouts some crazy sh*t. But, I DON'T see Pat acting on his words, and I DO see many Christians calling him on his crap. Don't see much of that in the Muslim community.
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So you're admitting that secularism has its advantages? ;P
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
So you're admitting that secularism has its advantages?
Seems to be working out well for its true believers. :rolleyes: "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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Ever heard of the Crusades? Do some research on the net, to educate yourself. You will see that the Islam's followers are not the only ones in history that has committed mass murders in the name of God. And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure. Religion, the source of all evil. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Michel Prévost wrote:
Ever heard of the Crusades?
I suggest the following book. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades)[^] One of the reasons for crusades was the Arab(Islamic) conquest of Holy Land. This is not to say that all the crusades were justified.
Michel Prévost wrote:
You will see that the Islam's followers are not the only ones in history that has committed mass murders in the name of God.
While it is true that followers of other religions have also committed mass murders, in the name of religion, nothing matches the murders committed by followers of Islam. This is one of the reasons why Islam is probably the most hated religion. I am not saying that all followers of Islam want violence. There are several good muslims who say the prayers five times a day, go to mosque on fridays and are useful contributing members to the society. Unfortuantely, because of the fanatical muslims the image of the entire religion is tarnished.
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Ever heard of the Crusades? Do some research on the net, to educate yourself. You will see that the Islam's followers are not the only ones in history that has committed mass murders in the name of God. And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure. Religion, the source of all evil. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
.... is not only a particularity of only the muslims. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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Michel Prévost wrote:
And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure.
If some do believe this, they are uneducated. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" Kim0618 wrote: "the father of Bush's mother is also Bush's mother"
And you are? you possess the divine truth? -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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Michel Prévost wrote:
Ever heard of the Crusades?
I suggest the following book. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades)[^] One of the reasons for crusades was the Arab(Islamic) conquest of Holy Land. This is not to say that all the crusades were justified.
Michel Prévost wrote:
You will see that the Islam's followers are not the only ones in history that has committed mass murders in the name of God.
While it is true that followers of other religions have also committed mass murders, in the name of religion, nothing matches the murders committed by followers of Islam. This is one of the reasons why Islam is probably the most hated religion. I am not saying that all followers of Islam want violence. There are several good muslims who say the prayers five times a day, go to mosque on fridays and are useful contributing members to the society. Unfortuantely, because of the fanatical muslims the image of the entire religion is tarnished.
I agree with you on most points. And it does not go against what I originally said, which is also the truth. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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.... is not only a particularity of only the muslims. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Agreed.
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We weren't discussing history. But thank's for brilliant insight anyway ... :rolleyes:
Michel Prévost wrote:
Do some research on the net, to educate yourself.
Obviously, thats where you got your education. At least it was free, eh? "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
Stan Shannon wrote:
We weren't discussing history. But thank's for brilliant insight anyway ...
You are right, on both points. ;P
Stan Shannon wrote:
Obviously, thats where you got your education. At least it was free, eh?
No, it was not free, although probably much cheaper than in the USA. This explains the impressive amount of uneducated people you find there compared to other countries. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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Michel Prévost wrote:
Ever heard of the Crusades?
Oh well - if Christians did it hundreds of years ago it must be OK for Muslims to do it now?? How did that logic work with your parents? "Mom - he hit me first!":doh::doh: "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein Dave
Who did hit who first? That is the question. As my mom would say: "Stop that, I don't care who started!". -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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Michel Prévost wrote:
And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure.
If some do believe this, they are uneducated. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" Kim0618 wrote: "the father of Bush's mother is also Bush's mother"
It is you who are uneducated. Judaism, Christianity and Islam comes from the same source. It's just that these religions have diverged quite a lot over the years. Particularly Islam and the Judeo-Christian side. Take a look at all the prophets mentioned in the Qur'an, and you will see that these guys are all over the OT as well as Jesus: http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa061399.htm[^]
God is God. What that sets these religions apart is what God represents and what he wants from the people. Hell, not all Christian groups agree on what is the truth.
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And you are? you possess the divine truth? -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
He possesses nothing of the sort. :)