Raging ragheads in London
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They have gone to far now. The police should have just wades in there, they did when the ex POWs protested the Japanese coming to London! Does an 80 year old POW who suffered for freedom have less rights than a muslem? The police are weak tossers, and the UK is institutionally biassed to wards minority groups. Its about time we got off the PC fence. And if it comes to photos, how are the Police to photot a woman who has a hibab (or what ever it is called) over her face? I propose the police walk up to her, rip the thing off, take a photo, and leg it. That ought to inflame the fuck out of the wanker rag heads in no time. And as for the rest, shoot the fuckkers. Any cunt walks around my fucking country waving fucking placards saying kill, behead etc can go fuck off where he/she came from. It is OUR country, OUR perogative to live by OUR rules, and that includes lampooning who ever the fuck we want to. Nunc est bibendum
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They have gone to far now. The police should have just wades in there, they did when the ex POWs protested the Japanese coming to London! Does an 80 year old POW who suffered for freedom have less rights than a muslem? The police are weak tossers, and the UK is institutionally biassed to wards minority groups. Its about time we got off the PC fence. And if it comes to photos, how are the Police to photot a woman who has a hibab (or what ever it is called) over her face? I propose the police walk up to her, rip the thing off, take a photo, and leg it. That ought to inflame the fuck out of the wanker rag heads in no time. And as for the rest, shoot the fuckkers. Any cunt walks around my fucking country waving fucking placards saying kill, behead etc can go fuck off where he/she came from. It is OUR country, OUR perogative to live by OUR rules, and that includes lampooning who ever the fuck we want to. Nunc est bibendum
Close your borders. Jam all incoming electrogmagnetic waves. Cut all incoming cable. Destroy all satellite receivers. Burn all ships and aeroplanes not used for domestic travel. Blow up incoming railways. Toss out anyone who doesn't have 5 generations of Dutch blood. Remove all foreign artifacts from your museums and libraries. Turn all foreign embassies into low-rent housing. Ban personal radios. Build a wall around your country. Re-educate your citizens. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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They have gone to far now. The police should have just wades in there, they did when the ex POWs protested the Japanese coming to London! Does an 80 year old POW who suffered for freedom have less rights than a muslem? The police are weak tossers, and the UK is institutionally biassed to wards minority groups. Its about time we got off the PC fence. And if it comes to photos, how are the Police to photot a woman who has a hibab (or what ever it is called) over her face? I propose the police walk up to her, rip the thing off, take a photo, and leg it. That ought to inflame the fuck out of the wanker rag heads in no time. And as for the rest, shoot the fuckkers. Any cunt walks around my fucking country waving fucking placards saying kill, behead etc can go fuck off where he/she came from. It is OUR country, OUR perogative to live by OUR rules, and that includes lampooning who ever the fuck we want to. Nunc est bibendum
This is racist crap. This is exactly the attitude that the extremists want to push you into.
fat_boy wrote:
I propose the police walk up to her, rip the thing off, take a photo, and leg it.
What kind of a knock down ginger for the police force? FB you need to grow up, come back in ten years time. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde -- modified at 7:00 Monday 6th February, 2006
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This is racist crap. This is exactly the attitude that the extremists want to push you into.
fat_boy wrote:
I propose the police walk up to her, rip the thing off, take a photo, and leg it.
What kind of a knock down ginger for the police force? FB you need to grow up, come back in ten years time. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde -- modified at 7:00 Monday 6th February, 2006
farmer giles wrote:
This is exactly the attitude that the extremists want to push you into.
That is an extrodinarily stupid argument. So reacting to extermism is extremism? The only way to deal with extremism is to what? Ignore it? Surrender to it? Reason with it? Pretend that there is a 'majority' that isn't extreme just to make yourself feel better? Dude, wake the fuck up, your civilization is under attack. Stand up and defend it and quit feeling that there is something you need to apologize for. And for God's sake stop being more critical of those who wish to defend it than those who wish to destroy it. The extremism exist because you are perceived as a culture that will give in to extremism. Stop doing that and the extremism will go away. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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This is racist crap. This is exactly the attitude that the extremists want to push you into.
fat_boy wrote:
I propose the police walk up to her, rip the thing off, take a photo, and leg it.
What kind of a knock down ginger for the police force? FB you need to grow up, come back in ten years time. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde -- modified at 7:00 Monday 6th February, 2006
farmer giles wrote:
This is racist crap
No it is not. I am not racist, ot culturalist, or religionist, or ist anything. I am p'ist off though seeing the streets of the capitol of one of the worlds finest coutries degraded by posters like these. We have very strict laws in the UK and incitement to vioence and murder is a very serious crime. And the state should crack down on this really hard. Shit, we wouldnt suffer this if it was a BNP march! These extremeists (and I have constantly argued on this forum not to mistake their beliefs for Islam) need controling. If their culture cant do it then, while they are in our culture, it is up to us to control them. And, if they threaten our culture from abroad, it is up to us then to control them then too. We arent talking about some existentialist issue here, we are talking about very disturbed people killing YOUR friends and family. Nunc est bibendum
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farmer giles wrote:
This is exactly the attitude that the extremists want to push you into.
That is an extrodinarily stupid argument. So reacting to extermism is extremism? The only way to deal with extremism is to what? Ignore it? Surrender to it? Reason with it? Pretend that there is a 'majority' that isn't extreme just to make yourself feel better? Dude, wake the fuck up, your civilization is under attack. Stand up and defend it and quit feeling that there is something you need to apologize for. And for God's sake stop being more critical of those who wish to defend it than those who wish to destroy it. The extremism exist because you are perceived as a culture that will give in to extremism. Stop doing that and the extremism will go away. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
Stan Shannon wrote:
Stand up and defend it
What by wearing a tee shirt? Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
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farmer giles wrote:
This is racist crap
No it is not. I am not racist, ot culturalist, or religionist, or ist anything. I am p'ist off though seeing the streets of the capitol of one of the worlds finest coutries degraded by posters like these. We have very strict laws in the UK and incitement to vioence and murder is a very serious crime. And the state should crack down on this really hard. Shit, we wouldnt suffer this if it was a BNP march! These extremeists (and I have constantly argued on this forum not to mistake their beliefs for Islam) need controling. If their culture cant do it then, while they are in our culture, it is up to us to control them. And, if they threaten our culture from abroad, it is up to us then to control them then too. We arent talking about some existentialist issue here, we are talking about very disturbed people killing YOUR friends and family. Nunc est bibendum
Why don't you protest outside the Saudi Embassy with a placard saying 'death to all ragheads', you could even try and burn it down. Don't forget to cover your face though so as not to get nicked. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
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Why don't you protest outside the Saudi Embassy with a placard saying 'death to all ragheads', you could even try and burn it down. Don't forget to cover your face though so as not to get nicked. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
You're being a tad provocative. You know very well that if fatty_boy did that he'd get hauled away in shackles before you could shout "behead the ragheads". The problem here is that, from the muslim side, it's do as I say not as I do. When they stop publishing anti-semitic/US/UK cartoons and literature I'll take their wishes a bit more seriously. In the meantime I'd be quite happy if the police had gone straight in and these morons were to be deported to Basra. (Yes, I know that some of them were born in the UK: Duh!) I personally experienced this hypocricy when I complained to the police about a muslim stall that had been set up outside my local M&S. They were distributing some vile pamphlets and the police refused to take any action. I even wrote to the local commander ans was virtually told to "behave". It's an utter disgrace that this scum can do what they want and nobody does anything to reign them in or make them suffer the consequnces of their ill-thought and selfish actions..
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
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Why don't you protest outside the Saudi Embassy with a placard saying 'death to all ragheads', you could even try and burn it down. Don't forget to cover your face though so as not to get nicked. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Stand up and defend it
What by wearing a tee shirt? Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
Seems like a perfect place to start. A peaceful yet in-yer-face display of western solidarity of respecting our principles over theirs. Who knows, maybe they'll get the point. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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They have gone to far now. The police should have just wades in there, they did when the ex POWs protested the Japanese coming to London! Does an 80 year old POW who suffered for freedom have less rights than a muslem? The police are weak tossers, and the UK is institutionally biassed to wards minority groups. Its about time we got off the PC fence. And if it comes to photos, how are the Police to photot a woman who has a hibab (or what ever it is called) over her face? I propose the police walk up to her, rip the thing off, take a photo, and leg it. That ought to inflame the fuck out of the wanker rag heads in no time. And as for the rest, shoot the fuckkers. Any cunt walks around my fucking country waving fucking placards saying kill, behead etc can go fuck off where he/she came from. It is OUR country, OUR perogative to live by OUR rules, and that includes lampooning who ever the fuck we want to. Nunc est bibendum
I agree. These people left Arabia or where ever they live and came to London in search of better life or Freedom. Now they want to bring ths same miserable state to London. In my opinion, if they don't like Europe or are conspiring against the very country they are living in, as evident from the T-Shirts, Posters and the infamous baby cap bearing the words "I love Al-Qaeda", they should be punished for treason or else deported. Some country has to take a drastic action now before it is too late.
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I agree. These people left Arabia or where ever they live and came to London in search of better life or Freedom. Now they want to bring ths same miserable state to London. In my opinion, if they don't like Europe or are conspiring against the very country they are living in, as evident from the T-Shirts, Posters and the infamous baby cap bearing the words "I love Al-Qaeda", they should be punished for treason or else deported. Some country has to take a drastic action now before it is too late.
Sadly, there are too many in the west who seem to believe this is more of an example of what it wrong with western culture than what is wrong with Islamic culture. I generally characterize such people as "leftists", but I actually don't know what to call them anymore. One would think that even the most committed socialist would be concerned about this new cultural phenomenon. Hell, especially them. So I'm not sure what to make of it politically. Who ever they are, it is becoming increasingly apparent that if we are going to have any kind of a western culture left at all, we are first going to have to deal with those elements of our own society who are holding our hands behind our back while Islam smacks us around. (that means you farmer giles) "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself" -- modified at 9:17 Monday 6th February, 2006
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You're being a tad provocative. You know very well that if fatty_boy did that he'd get hauled away in shackles before you could shout "behead the ragheads". The problem here is that, from the muslim side, it's do as I say not as I do. When they stop publishing anti-semitic/US/UK cartoons and literature I'll take their wishes a bit more seriously. In the meantime I'd be quite happy if the police had gone straight in and these morons were to be deported to Basra. (Yes, I know that some of them were born in the UK: Duh!) I personally experienced this hypocricy when I complained to the police about a muslim stall that had been set up outside my local M&S. They were distributing some vile pamphlets and the police refused to take any action. I even wrote to the local commander ans was virtually told to "behave". It's an utter disgrace that this scum can do what they want and nobody does anything to reign them in or make them suffer the consequnces of their ill-thought and selfish actions..
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
legalAlien wrote:
When they stop publishing anti-semitic/US/UK cartoons
This isnt the point either. It isnt a tit for tat issue, it is about our right to lampoon satirically a person, institution or religion, for the purposes of exposing deceit and dishonesty. How about 'Have I Got NEws For You'? A good example of the freedom we have in our culture that we do not want to give up. And portraying Mohammed as a terorist should indicate to a Muslem what we feel about their prophet. And this feeling is caused by a minority of THEIR culture. And THEY need to police it. That is the point of satire, to expose, through ridicule, truth and responsibility. Nunc est bibendum
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Seems like a perfect place to start. A peaceful yet in-yer-face display of western solidarity of respecting our principles over theirs. Who knows, maybe they'll get the point. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
And if it doesn't work, pick up a gun and smoke your local 'ragheads'. I don't think you're going to be able to destroy their civilisation by wearing a tee shirt. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
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You're being a tad provocative. You know very well that if fatty_boy did that he'd get hauled away in shackles before you could shout "behead the ragheads". The problem here is that, from the muslim side, it's do as I say not as I do. When they stop publishing anti-semitic/US/UK cartoons and literature I'll take their wishes a bit more seriously. In the meantime I'd be quite happy if the police had gone straight in and these morons were to be deported to Basra. (Yes, I know that some of them were born in the UK: Duh!) I personally experienced this hypocricy when I complained to the police about a muslim stall that had been set up outside my local M&S. They were distributing some vile pamphlets and the police refused to take any action. I even wrote to the local commander ans was virtually told to "behave". It's an utter disgrace that this scum can do what they want and nobody does anything to reign them in or make them suffer the consequnces of their ill-thought and selfish actions..
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
Yes yes but all this isn't really grounds to go shooting people. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
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You missed the point. These people are uncivilised animals who deserve no place a decent society. If they cant behave respectufully to OUR society and culture then they should be deported or locked up. Nunc est bibendum
I think the point was that you wanted the wonmen forcably unveiled and the men shot. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
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Sadly, there are too many in the west who seem to believe this is more of an example of what it wrong with western culture than what is wrong with Islamic culture. I generally characterize such people as "leftists", but I actually don't know what to call them anymore. One would think that even the most committed socialist would be concerned about this new cultural phenomenon. Hell, especially them. So I'm not sure what to make of it politically. Who ever they are, it is becoming increasingly apparent that if we are going to have any kind of a western culture left at all, we are first going to have to deal with those elements of our own society who are holding our hands behind our back while Islam smacks us around. (that means you farmer giles) "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself" -- modified at 9:17 Monday 6th February, 2006
Stan Shannon wrote:
that means you farmer giles
Oh, shoot me too I suppose. "And as for the rest, shoot the f***kers. " - This is the proposal that we are discussing and which I presume you support. Just out of interest does this mean all Muslims - is this how you propose to 'destroy their civilisation.' Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde -- modified at 9:33 Monday 6th February, 2006
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I think the point was that you wanted the wonmen forcably unveiled and the men shot. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
They have to be unveiled to have their photo taken whether they are arested now or later. And the men shot? No, I was just venting off. They need arresting too. In fact, these people should be hounded by the police because they are a threat to society. They ARE a major threat to society. 6 months ago these 'people' blew up busses and trains. I'm a pretty liberal guy, but when pushed to the brink there is only one course of action, and talkings over at that stage. Nunc est bibendum
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And if it doesn't work, pick up a gun and smoke your local 'ragheads'. I don't think you're going to be able to destroy their civilisation by wearing a tee shirt. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
farmer giles wrote:
And if it doesn't work, pick up a gun and smoke your local 'ragheads'.
I think the next move would be theirs to make.
farmer giles wrote:
I don't think you're going to be able to destroy their civilisation by wearing a tee shirt.
You never know until you try. Obviously, they feel threatened by a few cartoons in a paper. Who knows, put the same pictures on t-shirts worn by a hundred million infidels and maybe their little Islamic heads will explode (their head gear will be useful to soak up what few brains they might have) "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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legalAlien wrote:
When they stop publishing anti-semitic/US/UK cartoons
This isnt the point either. It isnt a tit for tat issue, it is about our right to lampoon satirically a person, institution or religion, for the purposes of exposing deceit and dishonesty. How about 'Have I Got NEws For You'? A good example of the freedom we have in our culture that we do not want to give up. And portraying Mohammed as a terorist should indicate to a Muslem what we feel about their prophet. And this feeling is caused by a minority of THEIR culture. And THEY need to police it. That is the point of satire, to expose, through ridicule, truth and responsibility. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
And THEY need to police it.
Thats the point I've been argueing for 5 years. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"