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    Jim Matthews
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    last night my hard drive crashed on my home pc. :sigh: it's a Seagate Barracuda IV ATA100 hard drive. I'm looking for a replacement as we speak and was thinking about upgrading to a 200GB ATA133 model that I've found on newegg, but I'm not sure if it will be compatible being that it's ATA133 vs. ATA100. I wouldn't think so being that both are Ultra IDE, but I'm not sure. As you can probably tell I'm not a hardware whiz, so I figured I'd ask. A friend also suggested maybe going with a 200GB Serial ATA model with a pci adapter (my pc only supports ide), but will the potential benefits of the faster Serial/ATA interface be cut off by the pci bus? does anyone have any experience with this? Also, on a related note, I have some data on this crashed out drive that I'd like to try to retrieve (pics, docs etc.). Are there any tools (prefereably free) that anyone knows of that can help out with this? I don't think the drive is completely fried, but it won't boot. I'm going to try setting up a new boot drive tonight and slave this one to see if I can access anything. Does anyone have any other suggestions or ideas? any help is appreciated.


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      last night my hard drive crashed on my home pc. :sigh: it's a Seagate Barracuda IV ATA100 hard drive. I'm looking for a replacement as we speak and was thinking about upgrading to a 200GB ATA133 model that I've found on newegg, but I'm not sure if it will be compatible being that it's ATA133 vs. ATA100. I wouldn't think so being that both are Ultra IDE, but I'm not sure. As you can probably tell I'm not a hardware whiz, so I figured I'd ask. A friend also suggested maybe going with a 200GB Serial ATA model with a pci adapter (my pc only supports ide), but will the potential benefits of the faster Serial/ATA interface be cut off by the pci bus? does anyone have any experience with this? Also, on a related note, I have some data on this crashed out drive that I'd like to try to retrieve (pics, docs etc.). Are there any tools (prefereably free) that anyone knows of that can help out with this? I don't think the drive is completely fried, but it won't boot. I'm going to try setting up a new boot drive tonight and slave this one to see if I can access anything. Does anyone have any other suggestions or ideas? any help is appreciated.


      -jim

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      Jim Matthews wrote:

      it's a Seagate Barracuda IV ATA100 hard drive. I'm looking for a replacement as we speak and was thinking about upgrading to a 200GB ATA133 model that I've found on newegg, but I'm not sure if it will be compatible being that it's ATA133 vs. ATA100. I wouldn't think so being that both are Ultra IDE, but I'm not sure.

      all pata drives are compatable. The interface gracefully downgrades on either end.

      Jim Matthews wrote:

      As you can probably tell I'm not a hardware whiz, so I figured I'd ask. A friend also suggested maybe going with a 200GB Serial ATA model with a pci adapter (my pc only supports ide), but will the potential benefits of the faster Serial/ATA interface be cut off by the pci bus? does anyone have any experience with this?

      You might loose a bit off peak xfer speeds, and suffer a minor latancy hit, but the PCI bus is wide enough to support two 7200 rpm drives at max sustained xfer rate, so unless you've got something bandwidth intensive on the bus, I wouldn't worry about it. At the same time, sustained 7200rpm drive is only ata66, so you won't see much of a gain from pata100 to sata150, the size of the onboard cache'll make a bigger difference. I wouldn't worry much about futureproofing your drive with a new mobo. optical drives are still almost exclusively pata, and from what I've heard the handful of sata ones in existance perform poorly. a new mobo purchase in the next few years shouldn;t be an issue. Afterall, USB's been ubiquitus on new pcs for 5+ years and we're only just starting to see some new mobos shedding legacy io ports.

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        Jim Matthews wrote:

        it's a Seagate Barracuda IV ATA100 hard drive. I'm looking for a replacement as we speak and was thinking about upgrading to a 200GB ATA133 model that I've found on newegg, but I'm not sure if it will be compatible being that it's ATA133 vs. ATA100. I wouldn't think so being that both are Ultra IDE, but I'm not sure.

        all pata drives are compatable. The interface gracefully downgrades on either end.

        Jim Matthews wrote:

        As you can probably tell I'm not a hardware whiz, so I figured I'd ask. A friend also suggested maybe going with a 200GB Serial ATA model with a pci adapter (my pc only supports ide), but will the potential benefits of the faster Serial/ATA interface be cut off by the pci bus? does anyone have any experience with this?

        You might loose a bit off peak xfer speeds, and suffer a minor latancy hit, but the PCI bus is wide enough to support two 7200 rpm drives at max sustained xfer rate, so unless you've got something bandwidth intensive on the bus, I wouldn't worry about it. At the same time, sustained 7200rpm drive is only ata66, so you won't see much of a gain from pata100 to sata150, the size of the onboard cache'll make a bigger difference. I wouldn't worry much about futureproofing your drive with a new mobo. optical drives are still almost exclusively pata, and from what I've heard the handful of sata ones in existance perform poorly. a new mobo purchase in the next few years shouldn;t be an issue. Afterall, USB's been ubiquitus on new pcs for 5+ years and we're only just starting to see some new mobos shedding legacy io ports.

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        thanks dan! :)


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