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  • T ToddHileHoffer

    I for one am glad we have Bush as president. Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK. The Christians / Jews and Muslims have been fighting forever and its not going to chage. At least they know we aren't going to take any s*** from them. I fear the consequences if we don't start bombing them. The only thing that will keep these extremist goverments in line is fear. If they could disrupt / destroy Isreal or America they'd do it in a heartbeat. We need to make sure they don't ever have that capability. Capitalism is not a good system. I think it pretty much sucks. But Capitalism is the best game the world has going right now and besides America is good at it. Seriously, my best friends from childhood are immigrants from Iran. Let me tell you, the Iranian gov. sucks and the people there have it rough. That's why its so important that we succede in Iraq and a stable Capitalist country comes out of this. These people need to see how good life can be if they just play the game. Seriously, Xbox 360s, Burger King, Beer and fake tits is a lot more fun then the Koran. BTW, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Even it all goes wrong and all the Muslims in the world declare Jihad on the West. America will still be pretty much OK. I mean how they are going to get here to hurt us? You can only fit so many terrorists in a sail boat:laugh: However, the jews might have to pick up and leave Isreal. But we'll make room them over here and soon we'll all be working for them. "People who never make mistakes, never do anything." My Blog -- modified at 11:04 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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    ToddHileHoffer wrote:

    Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK. The Christians / Jews and Muslims have been fighting forever and its not going to chage. At least they know we aren't going to take any s*** from them. I fear the consequences if we don't start bombing them.

    You want to bom the Christians / Jews and Muslims? That's really nice. ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game

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    • T ToddHileHoffer

      I for one am glad we have Bush as president. Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK. The Christians / Jews and Muslims have been fighting forever and its not going to chage. At least they know we aren't going to take any s*** from them. I fear the consequences if we don't start bombing them. The only thing that will keep these extremist goverments in line is fear. If they could disrupt / destroy Isreal or America they'd do it in a heartbeat. We need to make sure they don't ever have that capability. Capitalism is not a good system. I think it pretty much sucks. But Capitalism is the best game the world has going right now and besides America is good at it. Seriously, my best friends from childhood are immigrants from Iran. Let me tell you, the Iranian gov. sucks and the people there have it rough. That's why its so important that we succede in Iraq and a stable Capitalist country comes out of this. These people need to see how good life can be if they just play the game. Seriously, Xbox 360s, Burger King, Beer and fake tits is a lot more fun then the Koran. BTW, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Even it all goes wrong and all the Muslims in the world declare Jihad on the West. America will still be pretty much OK. I mean how they are going to get here to hurt us? You can only fit so many terrorists in a sail boat:laugh: However, the jews might have to pick up and leave Isreal. But we'll make room them over here and soon we'll all be working for them. "People who never make mistakes, never do anything." My Blog -- modified at 11:04 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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      ToddHileHoffer wrote:

      the jews might have to pick up and leave Isreal

      I seriously doubt it. They have enough nukes to ensure that the chances of a serious attack by any other country in the region is extremely unlikely...

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      • T ToddHileHoffer

        I for one am glad we have Bush as president. Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK. The Christians / Jews and Muslims have been fighting forever and its not going to chage. At least they know we aren't going to take any s*** from them. I fear the consequences if we don't start bombing them. The only thing that will keep these extremist goverments in line is fear. If they could disrupt / destroy Isreal or America they'd do it in a heartbeat. We need to make sure they don't ever have that capability. Capitalism is not a good system. I think it pretty much sucks. But Capitalism is the best game the world has going right now and besides America is good at it. Seriously, my best friends from childhood are immigrants from Iran. Let me tell you, the Iranian gov. sucks and the people there have it rough. That's why its so important that we succede in Iraq and a stable Capitalist country comes out of this. These people need to see how good life can be if they just play the game. Seriously, Xbox 360s, Burger King, Beer and fake tits is a lot more fun then the Koran. BTW, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Even it all goes wrong and all the Muslims in the world declare Jihad on the West. America will still be pretty much OK. I mean how they are going to get here to hurt us? You can only fit so many terrorists in a sail boat:laugh: However, the jews might have to pick up and leave Isreal. But we'll make room them over here and soon we'll all be working for them. "People who never make mistakes, never do anything." My Blog -- modified at 11:04 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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        ToddHileHoffer wrote:

        Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK

        :| One president has his cigar sucked and he gets impeached. Another starts a war on false pretenses, on a lie, over a 1000 US citizens are killed along with countless Iraqis and that is OK with you? Holy smokes, Batman. []Let us be clear. I am not saying Bush did or did not lie. I am using what the poster above said and asking how what he believes can be OK but that when Clinton lied about sex (not war, not killing people, not corruption, just some sex (what he did was wrong, I agree)) that is impeacheable.[] regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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        • T ToddHileHoffer

          I for one am glad we have Bush as president. Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK. The Christians / Jews and Muslims have been fighting forever and its not going to chage. At least they know we aren't going to take any s*** from them. I fear the consequences if we don't start bombing them. The only thing that will keep these extremist goverments in line is fear. If they could disrupt / destroy Isreal or America they'd do it in a heartbeat. We need to make sure they don't ever have that capability. Capitalism is not a good system. I think it pretty much sucks. But Capitalism is the best game the world has going right now and besides America is good at it. Seriously, my best friends from childhood are immigrants from Iran. Let me tell you, the Iranian gov. sucks and the people there have it rough. That's why its so important that we succede in Iraq and a stable Capitalist country comes out of this. These people need to see how good life can be if they just play the game. Seriously, Xbox 360s, Burger King, Beer and fake tits is a lot more fun then the Koran. BTW, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Even it all goes wrong and all the Muslims in the world declare Jihad on the West. America will still be pretty much OK. I mean how they are going to get here to hurt us? You can only fit so many terrorists in a sail boat:laugh: However, the jews might have to pick up and leave Isreal. But we'll make room them over here and soon we'll all be working for them. "People who never make mistakes, never do anything." My Blog -- modified at 11:04 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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          ToddHileHoffer wrote:

          Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK.

          Well, that just about sums it up :|:omg::| Unfreakingbelievable.


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            ToddHileHoffer wrote:

            Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK

            :| One president has his cigar sucked and he gets impeached. Another starts a war on false pretenses, on a lie, over a 1000 US citizens are killed along with countless Iraqis and that is OK with you? Holy smokes, Batman. []Let us be clear. I am not saying Bush did or did not lie. I am using what the poster above said and asking how what he believes can be OK but that when Clinton lied about sex (not war, not killing people, not corruption, just some sex (what he did was wrong, I agree)) that is impeacheable.[] regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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            Remember the old slogan "Make love, not war"? Sounds like someone has gotten that one backwards... :)

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              Remember the old slogan "Make love, not war"? Sounds like someone has gotten that one backwards... :)

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              Yes. I think war is less offensive to some than love. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK

                :| One president has his cigar sucked and he gets impeached. Another starts a war on false pretenses, on a lie, over a 1000 US citizens are killed along with countless Iraqis and that is OK with you? Holy smokes, Batman. []Let us be clear. I am not saying Bush did or did not lie. I am using what the poster above said and asking how what he believes can be OK but that when Clinton lied about sex (not war, not killing people, not corruption, just some sex (what he did was wrong, I agree)) that is impeacheable.[] regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                I'm still trying to figure out where he lied.

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                  I'm still trying to figure out where he lied.

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                  Well I am not even going to discuss that. All I am shit scared about is US citizens who don't care if he lied or not. The poster above thinks his commander in chief did lie and yet he is fine with that. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                    Well I am not even going to discuss that. All I am shit scared about is US citizens who don't care if he lied or not. The poster above thinks his commander in chief did lie and yet he is fine with that. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    Well I am not even going to discuss that.

                    Why am I not surprised? :rolleyes:

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                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      Well I am not even going to discuss that.

                      Why am I not surprised? :rolleyes:

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                      Just like you keep avoiding my statement about blind patriots. Frankly I don't know enough about the details of Bush's reason for going to war in Iraq to make a strong case for him having lied or not. It would take me months if not years to research it properly. I doubt you know enough either. I do know there are some dubious details though, details that the US public should be calling him up on. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                        Just like you keep avoiding my statement about blind patriots. Frankly I don't know enough about the details of Bush's reason for going to war in Iraq to make a strong case for him having lied or not. It would take me months if not years to research it properly. I doubt you know enough either. I do know there are some dubious details though, details that the US public should be calling him up on. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        Just like you keep avoiding my statement about blind patriots.

                        Huh? Wouldn't that require Bush to have lied in order for us to be "blind patriots"? I admit it's stupid to think it's OK for Bush to have gone into Iraq based on lies he perpetrated, but you also agreed and said that he lied (only complaining that he was OK with the war).

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                        Frankly I don't know enough about the details of Bush's reason for going to war in Iraq to make a strong case for him having lied or not. It would take me months if not years to research it properly. I doubt you know enough either.

                        Trust me. If Bush lied about something, the left in this country would have seized on that.

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                          Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK

                          :| One president has his cigar sucked and he gets impeached. Another starts a war on false pretenses, on a lie, over a 1000 US citizens are killed along with countless Iraqis and that is OK with you? Holy smokes, Batman. []Let us be clear. I am not saying Bush did or did not lie. I am using what the poster above said and asking how what he believes can be OK but that when Clinton lied about sex (not war, not killing people, not corruption, just some sex (what he did was wrong, I agree)) that is impeacheable.[] regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          One president has his cigar sucked and he gets impeached.

                          Wrong, he was impeached for commiting perjury.

                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          Another starts a war on false pretenses, on a lie

                          What lie? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            Just like you keep avoiding my statement about blind patriots.

                            Huh? Wouldn't that require Bush to have lied in order for us to be "blind patriots"? I admit it's stupid to think it's OK for Bush to have gone into Iraq based on lies he perpetrated, but you also agreed and said that he lied (only complaining that he was OK with the war).

                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            Frankly I don't know enough about the details of Bush's reason for going to war in Iraq to make a strong case for him having lied or not. It would take me months if not years to research it properly. I doubt you know enough either.

                            Trust me. If Bush lied about something, the left in this country would have seized on that.

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                            Do you not have a problem with TodHileHoffer having said; "Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK."? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              One president has his cigar sucked and he gets impeached.

                              Wrong, he was impeached for commiting perjury.

                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              Another starts a war on false pretenses, on a lie

                              What lie? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                              kgaddy wrote:

                              Wrong, he was impeached for commiting perjury.

                              Which is just a technicality. The reason he was questioned in the first place is for his antics with his cigar. If it wasn't for the cigar bit, there would have been no questioning, thus no perjury and no impeachment.

                              I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts

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                                Do you not have a problem with TodHileHoffer having said; "Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK."? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                Paul Watson wrote:

                                Do you not have a problem with TodHileHoffer having said; "Of course he lied to us about why we went into Iraq, but that's OK."?

                                espeir wrote:

                                I admit it's stupid to think it's OK for Bush to have gone into Iraq based on lies he perpetrated

                                THAT WAS IN THE POST YOU RESPONDED TO! I also said that you agreed that he lied. So I'm asking where/when.

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                                  kgaddy wrote:

                                  Wrong, he was impeached for commiting perjury.

                                  Which is just a technicality. The reason he was questioned in the first place is for his antics with his cigar. If it wasn't for the cigar bit, there would have been no questioning, thus no perjury and no impeachment.

                                  I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts

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                                  Or maybe if he didn't commit perjury... L'il Kim is going to prison over that.

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                                    kgaddy wrote:

                                    Wrong, he was impeached for commiting perjury.

                                    Which is just a technicality. The reason he was questioned in the first place is for his antics with his cigar. If it wasn't for the cigar bit, there would have been no questioning, thus no perjury and no impeachment.

                                    I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts

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                                    Paul Watson
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                                    And it shows how restrictive western society is that a president felt he had to lie about a mistake like this. I read a bit of Roth that said (paraphrased) "And a sign draped over the White House said 'A human lives here'." He, Roth, was talking about Clinton. I do find the lie to be far worse than the act that made him lie. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                      Or maybe if he didn't commit perjury... L'il Kim is going to prison over that.

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                                      I may be wrong but you and your kin seem to prefer bombing people to a bit of sex in the White House. It seems very immature to me. I'd love to be corrected. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                      • R Red Stateler

                                        I'm still trying to figure out where he lied.

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                                        Maybe this will help you figure it out: The Other Lies of George Bush[^] Bush Watch[^] Partisan, sure, but still valid behind the rhetoric. If only 10% is true, it is far worse for the American people than "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." And hiding behind the claim of "faulty intelligence" -- especially when the intelligence is so obviously questionable in the first place -- is the equivalent of saying "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is". Ass-covering. Dissembling. Lying.

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                                          Maybe this will help you figure it out: The Other Lies of George Bush[^] Bush Watch[^] Partisan, sure, but still valid behind the rhetoric. If only 10% is true, it is far worse for the American people than "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." And hiding behind the claim of "faulty intelligence" -- especially when the intelligence is so obviously questionable in the first place -- is the equivalent of saying "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is". Ass-covering. Dissembling. Lying.

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                                          I stopped reading that first link after the very first claim. Bush said that there were numerous contacts with Al Queda and that they did not lead to a "material relationship". That's actually what he told the reporters! Of course that's twisted by psychopaths like yourself to mean that he was stating that Iraq and Al Queda directly "dealing" with eachother. Geeze, man. Get a clue!

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