Afghan convert going to get death sentence?
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espeir wrote:
I'm kind of surprised that you wouldn't have known about that term before watching a recent TV show, though.
Sorry, I'm British...we don't have as much experience with nukes as you.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Jon Newman wrote:
Sorry, I'm British...we don't have as much experience with nukes as you.
We know. That's partially why we're still a super power and you're not.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
it would be economic suicide to attack France.
As if that would stop him... :rolleyes: "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov
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Not trying to defend the afghan a-holes or anything, but I'm sure that any nation which employs a similar constitution, will descend into such a medieval state.
Giles wrote:
Religion of peace, tolerance, kindness my ass.
Very few religions are of peace, tolerance and kindness. Rub anyone with in any religion the wrong way, who has sufficient power, and they will unleash their god given wrath. Religion is like communism - it's fine and dandy if everybody are in on it.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Very few religions are of peace, tolerance and kindness. Rub anyone with in any religion the wrong way, who has sufficient power, and they will unleash their god given wrath. Religion is like communism - it's fine and dandy if everybody are in on it.
That, my friend, is such patent nonsense. ---sig---
Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4841334.stm[^] "Islam is a religion of peace, tolerance, kindness and integrity. That is why we have told him if he regrets what he did, then we will forgive him," But, wait for it.... "The courts should punish him and he should be put to death." This is what happens when you accept a shitty constitution so you can be getting on, as later peoples lives depend on it. Afghanistan's constitution, written in 2004, enshrines the country as an Islamic state under which no law can contravene Islam. But it also protects personal freedom and respects international human rights conventions. "It is a deliberately ambiguous document which tries to paper over the cracks and contradictions of Afghanistan," says one Afghan law professor privately. Religion of peace, tolerance, kindness my ass.
"Islam is a religion of peace, tolerance, kindness and integrity. That is why we have told him if he regrets what he did, then we will forgive him," he told the BBC News website." I wonder how not obvious to those dumbasses that it is not "tolerant" to kill someone because they converted to a different religion? :wtf: Shіt like this makes me wonder why the news stations like BBC and CNN are so sympathetic to muslims, and call them a "religion of peace". :suss:
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Very few religions are of peace, tolerance and kindness. Rub anyone with in any religion the wrong way, who has sufficient power, and they will unleash their god given wrath. Religion is like communism - it's fine and dandy if everybody are in on it.
That, my friend, is such patent nonsense. ---sig---
Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay -
:laugh: Name one secular government. But I'll go ahead and play this game: Mormonism.
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Just because some people use a certain religion as an excuse to violate human rights (i.e. the Catholic Church) doesnt make the religion bad. But with Islam, the entire religion is based on violence.
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Jon Newman wrote:
Sorry, I'm British...we don't have as much experience with nukes as you.
We know. That's partially why we're still a super power and you're not.
So you're proud of getting valuated by the club you're carrying. If I hadn't allready spotted your place in the evolution, this would be a dead give-away. "God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
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So you're proud of getting valuated by the club you're carrying. If I hadn't allready spotted your place in the evolution, this would be a dead give-away. "God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
That big club saved your nation more than once. You probably owe your very existence to that big club.
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That big club saved your nation more than once. You probably owe your very existence to that big club.
Nope, it never did. The nation you live in participated in a joint effort between Britain, USSR and USA. And, I owe my existance to my father and my mother, not to some guy that drove through Denmark in a Jeep in the last century. "God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
That's because he doesn't have sufficient power from the government.
What are you talking about? He has the football. All he ever has to do is press a button.
espeir wrote:
All he ever has to do is press a button.
Same for France.
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Your logic is faulty. A religion can't violate human rights, it's an abstract concept. Only people can violate human rights. Just because some people go to extremes, and that goes for politics too (extreme left, extreme right) doesn't necessarily brand whatever group they belong to as extremist. There are some Democrats and Republicans (in the US) that are extremists, does that mean all Republicans or all Democrats or all political parties are extreme or bad? Some right-to-lifers have killed doctors who have performed abortions. Does that mean that the "Right-to-life" group has violated human rights??? So it is with Religion. Just because some people who belong to a particular religion go to extremes, and even say they're doing it in the "name of their religion" or "their God", doesn't mean everyone in that religion agrees with the extremists' actions. Nor should everyone in that religion nor should ALL Religions be painted with such a brush just because there are some bad PEOPLE. Again, people violate human rights, not some abstract concept. But, as espeir said, Mormonism[^] has not viloated anybodys rights. ---sig---
Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay -
Just because some people use a certain religion as an excuse to violate human rights (i.e. the Catholic Church) doesnt make the religion bad. But with Islam, the entire religion is based on violence.
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
But with Islam, the entire religion is based on violence.
Nah, just the later incarnation. Much like Jesus, Mohammed was a man of peace at first. When his message stopped being well-received, he, like Jesus, used more violent language but, unlike Jesus, Mohammed himself used violent means to attain his goals. Jesus left it to the Romans, French, Germans, English, Spanish and others to supply the violence necessary for Christianity to spread.
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Nope, it never did. The nation you live in participated in a joint effort between Britain, USSR and USA. And, I owe my existance to my father and my mother, not to some guy that drove through Denmark in a Jeep in the last century. "God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
jan larsen wrote:
Nope, it never did. The nation you live in participated in a joint effort between Britain, USSR and USA.
Britain and the USSR were doomed without the US. Why do you think we jumped in? So that our soldiers could have afternoon tea.
jan larsen wrote:
And, I owe my existance to my father and my mother
Yes you do. And they owe their existence to your grandparents. And they owe their existence to some guy who drove through Denmark in a Jeep last century. Also, thanks to our might, the USSR did not progress past East Germany. While you might still exist had they done so, you'd be wearing a lot more gray as you stood in line for bread.
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espeir wrote:
All he ever has to do is press a button.
Same for France.
France's stockpile is far too small to destroy the US at the push of a button. They might be able to take out a couple of cities, but the US would create a new body of water called the Sea of France. Besides, these are the people that make Peugot. I'm guessing one out of ten actually work.
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
But with Islam, the entire religion is based on violence.
Nah, just the later incarnation. Much like Jesus, Mohammed was a man of peace at first. When his message stopped being well-received, he, like Jesus, used more violent language but, unlike Jesus, Mohammed himself used violent means to attain his goals. Jesus left it to the Romans, French, Germans, English, Spanish and others to supply the violence necessary for Christianity to spread.
Jesus preached violence? That's news to me.
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jan larsen wrote:
Nope, it never did. The nation you live in participated in a joint effort between Britain, USSR and USA.
Britain and the USSR were doomed without the US. Why do you think we jumped in? So that our soldiers could have afternoon tea.
jan larsen wrote:
And, I owe my existance to my father and my mother
Yes you do. And they owe their existence to your grandparents. And they owe their existence to some guy who drove through Denmark in a Jeep last century. Also, thanks to our might, the USSR did not progress past East Germany. While you might still exist had they done so, you'd be wearing a lot more gray as you stood in line for bread.
espeir wrote:
Why do you think we jumped in? So that our soldiers could have afternoon tea.
No, you joined in because it was becoming really annoying how the German subs kept sinking your merchant vessels. Business as usual.
espeir wrote:
Yes you do. And they owe their existence to your grandparents.
My grandfather planted roadside bombs and deranged trains while your grandparents were sipping coffe and wondering if good old Adolf might turn out to be a good trading partner when the war was over.
espeir wrote:
Also, thanks to our might, the USSR did not progress past East Germany. While you might still exist had they done so, you'd be wearing a lot more gray as you stood in line for bread.
While fantasizing about alternative history can be very amusing, I would consider that outcome highly improbable. Look, we have been occupied several times through history, and we're still a very independant nation. Even if the USSR had had the resources to extend their realm to our territory, we would have made it. I can see that all the cold war propaganda is still hanging around, but try visiting eg. Praque and see for yourself that other nations actually did make it through. "God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
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:laugh: Name one secular government. But I'll go ahead and play this game: Mormonism.
The Swedish government comes to mind. The Norwegian government also comes to mind. The Finnish. The Icelandic. The Danish. I can't recall any of them having violated human rights since they became secular. They've all been at war at some point, so I guess it all depends on a point of view.
espeir wrote:
But I'll go ahead and play this game: Mormonism.
That's probably one of the few. I don't think Buddhists have ever violated human rights. But then again, neither of these religions have established power over a nation, or a sufficiently large population, in order to do whatever they want. Power corrupts. Even more so, whenever you can back your words with God. I think the rise and fall of the catholic church is proof of that. As well as the rise of Islam. -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.
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France's stockpile is far too small to destroy the US at the push of a button. They might be able to take out a couple of cities, but the US would create a new body of water called the Sea of France. Besides, these are the people that make Peugot. I'm guessing one out of ten actually work.
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espeir wrote:
Why do you think we jumped in? So that our soldiers could have afternoon tea.
No, you joined in because it was becoming really annoying how the German subs kept sinking your merchant vessels. Business as usual.
espeir wrote:
Yes you do. And they owe their existence to your grandparents.
My grandfather planted roadside bombs and deranged trains while your grandparents were sipping coffe and wondering if good old Adolf might turn out to be a good trading partner when the war was over.
espeir wrote:
Also, thanks to our might, the USSR did not progress past East Germany. While you might still exist had they done so, you'd be wearing a lot more gray as you stood in line for bread.
While fantasizing about alternative history can be very amusing, I would consider that outcome highly improbable. Look, we have been occupied several times through history, and we're still a very independant nation. Even if the USSR had had the resources to extend their realm to our territory, we would have made it. I can see that all the cold war propaganda is still hanging around, but try visiting eg. Praque and see for yourself that other nations actually did make it through. "God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
jan larsen wrote:
No, you joined in because it was becoming really annoying how the German subs kept sinking your merchant vessels. Business as usual.
Funny. I thought it was Pearl Harbor.
jan larsen wrote:
My grandfather planted roadside bombs and deranged trains while your grandparents were sipping coffe and wondering if good old Adolf might turn out to be a good trading partner when the war was over.
Huh? America took Hitler down. Why would we plan on being his trading partner? Ask your grandfather how effective he was planting bombs. Ask him if his little bombs would have gotten anywhere without America's big bombs. Ask him if he's grateful and if he's proud of his ungrateful little snot of a grandson.
jan larsen wrote:
While fantasizing about alternative history can be very amusing, I would consider that outcome highly improbable. Look, we have been occupied several times through history, and we're still a very independant nation. Even if the USSR had had the resources to extend their realm to our territory, we would have made it. I can see that all the cold war propaganda is still hanging around, but try visiting eg. Praque and see for yourself that other nations actually did make it through.
It's hardly alternate. Expansion was the USSR's goal. Why do you think NATO was formed? Ever hear of Vietnam? Afghanistan? Denmark was on the list. America just kept the USSR at bay. Prague made it through for one reason...America. You're welcome. :cool: