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Glad you got out unscathed. :)
"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." - Mark Twain
"There is no death, only a change of worlds." - Native American Proverb
It will take more than a few chavs[^] to get rid of me. ;P And if they do manage it, I'll be damned sure to take many of them with me.
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Shog9 wrote:
Now, come drive around Colorado for a few weeks - you'll learn a whole new meaning to the term "defensive driving".
Bah - you westerners need to visit India, get a temp driving permit, and drive around for a few minutes (yes I said minutes). You'll never want to do that again! Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
You'll never want to do that again!
You've obviously been to Paris. :rolleyes: I was a pedestrian and I was still scared.
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Glad you are ok. Shocked you keep a gun with you all the time. Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!I don't carry a gun, never have done and never will do. My hobby - airsoft - is practised at organised events. Come on Nish, I'm not that bloody stupid. I am honestly shocked that anyone would think I was being serious with that comment, but I guess maybe it is believable in this world we live in. :sigh:
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So I'm driving home tonight minding my own business on a virtually deserted stretch of three-carriageway motorway. Approaching a traffic join, I see there is a car going way to fast down the slip road so I mirror-signal-manoeuvre into the middle lane like a good little driver should to let him join without him hitting me. My first mistake, obviously. This car swerved straight across the separation between the slip road (still coming in at an angle of about 45 degrees at that point) and straight into the inside line. No indicating signals... but I guess it is hard to reach for the stalk when you are trying to stop your car rolling straight over eight lanes of motorway and down the other side. At this point I am along side the car about where the driver's blind spot is. My second mistake, obviously. The car then swerves right into my lane. For the first 200ms I just hung over to the far right* of my lane assuming he is just drifting a little in the wind or a patch of bad road surface. By about 300ms my adrenaline levels shoot through the roof as the car comes within six inches of my front wing (now undertaking me - which is illegal). I am forced to swerve hard into the outside lane to avoid making contact. If I hadn't then we would both get thrown out of balance and they would most likely end up underneath my car as I flip over the top of them and roll, lengthways, across the barrier into the articulated lorry coming the other way. In short, they would probably survive while I would very likely be killed along with the lorry driver. * Remember: we backwards Brits drive on the left My third mistake, obviously. I hold control of the car throughout all of that (all 800ms of it by now), but I chose to - and I feel I was entitled to given the circumstances - give a long blast on my horn and a very nasty look as the driver finally noticed I was on the road too and started braking. So now, about five seconds later, I am past the car and pull back to the left into the middle lane, and then back into the inside line (which was where the other car should be given it was totally empty for 600 yards in either direction). As far as I am concerned, it is over. Nobody died and hopefully the driver has learn't the hard way that he must check his blindspot before ilegally speeding down slip roads, violating traffic orders and getting to within inches of killing other people by driving dangerously. Yet another mistake by me, it seems. The driver and passengers (font and back) now try and break th
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I don't carry a gun, never have done and never will do. My hobby - airsoft - is practised at organised events. Come on Nish, I'm not that bloody stupid. I am honestly shocked that anyone would think I was being serious with that comment, but I guess maybe it is believable in this world we live in. :sigh:
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David Wulff wrote:
I don't carry a gun, never have done and never will do. My hobby - airsoft - is practised at organised events. Come on Nish, I'm not that bloody stupid. I am honestly shocked that anyone would think I was being serious with that comment, but I guess maybe it is believable in this world we live in.
Sorry Dave - Since the rest of your post was so strong, I didn't expect you to put in that gun bit as humor, specially since you didn't use humor anywhere else in your post. Regards, Nish
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David Wulff wrote:
I don't carry a gun, never have done and never will do. My hobby - airsoft - is practised at organised events. Come on Nish, I'm not that bloody stupid. I am honestly shocked that anyone would think I was being serious with that comment, but I guess maybe it is believable in this world we live in.
Sorry Dave - Since the rest of your post was so strong, I didn't expect you to put in that gun bit as humor, specially since you didn't use humor anywhere else in your post. Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!Humour has two forms - the funny (which that wasn't) and the step-back-and-look-at-the-stupidity (which that was). I'm sorry if there was any confusion.
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Indeed, that was/is disgusting. If as a driver you genuinely make a mistake, and you genuinely try your best to make right what you can about it, then I can agree with leniant legal punishments - you will after all be punished for it for the rest of your life. If you deliberately ignore your responsibility though, such as fleeing instead of trying to help, you should be subjected to the full force of the law. The law enforcers in this country seem to interchange 'force' and 'farce' too easily. As punishment for what this guy did to me earlier I wouldn't ask that he be put in jail. It wouldn't make him a safer or more considerate driver. I would instead make him attend the hospital beds of all the children, soul mates and parents - and their children, soul mates and parents - who are waiting for the final few hours till death takes them because some idiot like himself was trying to impress a bunch of adolescent girls. I would make him spend a day with the fire crews who cut the remaining pieces of people out of car wrecks and place them in little plastic bags so their closest family members can identify what's left of their bodies. He already knows all of that happens, but he obviously needs some shock to burn it into his system. Then and only then would I take away his license until he completed an extended driving test.
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So I'm driving home tonight minding my own business on a virtually deserted stretch of three-carriageway motorway. Approaching a traffic join, I see there is a car going way to fast down the slip road so I mirror-signal-manoeuvre into the middle lane like a good little driver should to let him join without him hitting me. My first mistake, obviously. This car swerved straight across the separation between the slip road (still coming in at an angle of about 45 degrees at that point) and straight into the inside line. No indicating signals... but I guess it is hard to reach for the stalk when you are trying to stop your car rolling straight over eight lanes of motorway and down the other side. At this point I am along side the car about where the driver's blind spot is. My second mistake, obviously. The car then swerves right into my lane. For the first 200ms I just hung over to the far right* of my lane assuming he is just drifting a little in the wind or a patch of bad road surface. By about 300ms my adrenaline levels shoot through the roof as the car comes within six inches of my front wing (now undertaking me - which is illegal). I am forced to swerve hard into the outside lane to avoid making contact. If I hadn't then we would both get thrown out of balance and they would most likely end up underneath my car as I flip over the top of them and roll, lengthways, across the barrier into the articulated lorry coming the other way. In short, they would probably survive while I would very likely be killed along with the lorry driver. * Remember: we backwards Brits drive on the left My third mistake, obviously. I hold control of the car throughout all of that (all 800ms of it by now), but I chose to - and I feel I was entitled to given the circumstances - give a long blast on my horn and a very nasty look as the driver finally noticed I was on the road too and started braking. So now, about five seconds later, I am past the car and pull back to the left into the middle lane, and then back into the inside line (which was where the other car should be given it was totally empty for 600 yards in either direction). As far as I am concerned, it is over. Nobody died and hopefully the driver has learn't the hard way that he must check his blindspot before ilegally speeding down slip roads, violating traffic orders and getting to within inches of killing other people by driving dangerously. Yet another mistake by me, it seems. The driver and passengers (font and back) now try and break th
So... in other words a normal day driving in New Mexico. We have automatic fault if you strike another vehicle from behind (they get in front of you, break, and you cannot stop before hitting them). It is very common for getting insurance claims. Admitedly, I only see one that close about once a month, but having someone stop in front of you forcing you to break or swerve is an everyday occurance... usually with speeds of traffic ranging from 60mph to 120mph in the same section of road. glad you survived though! _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 21:20 Tuesday 4th April, 2006
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So I'm driving home tonight minding my own business on a virtually deserted stretch of three-carriageway motorway. Approaching a traffic join, I see there is a car going way to fast down the slip road so I mirror-signal-manoeuvre into the middle lane like a good little driver should to let him join without him hitting me. My first mistake, obviously. This car swerved straight across the separation between the slip road (still coming in at an angle of about 45 degrees at that point) and straight into the inside line. No indicating signals... but I guess it is hard to reach for the stalk when you are trying to stop your car rolling straight over eight lanes of motorway and down the other side. At this point I am along side the car about where the driver's blind spot is. My second mistake, obviously. The car then swerves right into my lane. For the first 200ms I just hung over to the far right* of my lane assuming he is just drifting a little in the wind or a patch of bad road surface. By about 300ms my adrenaline levels shoot through the roof as the car comes within six inches of my front wing (now undertaking me - which is illegal). I am forced to swerve hard into the outside lane to avoid making contact. If I hadn't then we would both get thrown out of balance and they would most likely end up underneath my car as I flip over the top of them and roll, lengthways, across the barrier into the articulated lorry coming the other way. In short, they would probably survive while I would very likely be killed along with the lorry driver. * Remember: we backwards Brits drive on the left My third mistake, obviously. I hold control of the car throughout all of that (all 800ms of it by now), but I chose to - and I feel I was entitled to given the circumstances - give a long blast on my horn and a very nasty look as the driver finally noticed I was on the road too and started braking. So now, about five seconds later, I am past the car and pull back to the left into the middle lane, and then back into the inside line (which was where the other car should be given it was totally empty for 600 yards in either direction). As far as I am concerned, it is over. Nobody died and hopefully the driver has learn't the hard way that he must check his blindspot before ilegally speeding down slip roads, violating traffic orders and getting to within inches of killing other people by driving dangerously. Yet another mistake by me, it seems. The driver and passengers (font and back) now try and break th
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So... in other words a normal day driving in New Mexico. We have automatic fault if you strike another vehicle from behind (they get in front of you, break, and you cannot stop before hitting them). It is very common for getting insurance claims. Admitedly, I only see one that close about once a month, but having someone stop in front of you forcing you to break or swerve is an everyday occurance... usually with speeds of traffic ranging from 60mph to 120mph in the same section of road. glad you survived though! _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 21:20 Tuesday 4th April, 2006
If I ever go to New Mexico, I'm taking the train...
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
It is very common for getting insurance claims
Here the common way seems to be disconnecting the rear brake lights and then slamming the brakes on when someone behind hasn't the time to stop. They are normally organised gangs that do it - and will have lots of 'witnesses' in nearby cars who will claim the innocent victim tried to cut the other guy off, etc. The insurance companies know about it, but it is so hard to proove. One gang member had been involved in over 100 serious car accidents in just 12 months!
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So it was you in the white Escort blasting your horn at me and my nieces! You tosser! (Just kidding of course ;)) Nunc est bibendum
Actually... thinking about it... that is pretty much how I would imagine you driving... :rolleyes:
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So I'm driving home tonight minding my own business on a virtually deserted stretch of three-carriageway motorway. Approaching a traffic join, I see there is a car going way to fast down the slip road so I mirror-signal-manoeuvre into the middle lane like a good little driver should to let him join without him hitting me. My first mistake, obviously. This car swerved straight across the separation between the slip road (still coming in at an angle of about 45 degrees at that point) and straight into the inside line. No indicating signals... but I guess it is hard to reach for the stalk when you are trying to stop your car rolling straight over eight lanes of motorway and down the other side. At this point I am along side the car about where the driver's blind spot is. My second mistake, obviously. The car then swerves right into my lane. For the first 200ms I just hung over to the far right* of my lane assuming he is just drifting a little in the wind or a patch of bad road surface. By about 300ms my adrenaline levels shoot through the roof as the car comes within six inches of my front wing (now undertaking me - which is illegal). I am forced to swerve hard into the outside lane to avoid making contact. If I hadn't then we would both get thrown out of balance and they would most likely end up underneath my car as I flip over the top of them and roll, lengthways, across the barrier into the articulated lorry coming the other way. In short, they would probably survive while I would very likely be killed along with the lorry driver. * Remember: we backwards Brits drive on the left My third mistake, obviously. I hold control of the car throughout all of that (all 800ms of it by now), but I chose to - and I feel I was entitled to given the circumstances - give a long blast on my horn and a very nasty look as the driver finally noticed I was on the road too and started braking. So now, about five seconds later, I am past the car and pull back to the left into the middle lane, and then back into the inside line (which was where the other car should be given it was totally empty for 600 yards in either direction). As far as I am concerned, it is over. Nobody died and hopefully the driver has learn't the hard way that he must check his blindspot before ilegally speeding down slip roads, violating traffic orders and getting to within inches of killing other people by driving dangerously. Yet another mistake by me, it seems. The driver and passengers (font and back) now try and break th
There is not a week without risking being killed by somebody who considers (s)he hasn't to take care about stop signals, traffic lights, priorities, one-way roads, or others who thinks that talking to a cellphone is much more important than controlling correctly their cars... That's why I always keep my .38 under the saddle :-D
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David Wulff wrote:
And then, just as I am reaching for the gun under my seat,
Wow, you Brits really live in a violent society. Personally, I've never felt the need to carry a weapon, and I drive all over Midwest and South on a regular basis. "You get that which you tolerate"
Stan Shannon wrote:
Personally, I've never felt the need to carry a weapon, and I drive all over Midwest and South on a regular basis.
Guns are much like parachutes. You probably will go thru your whole life and never need one - but if you do you will need one real bad - and nothing else can take its place. Richard Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Personally, I've never felt the need to carry a weapon, and I drive all over Midwest and South on a regular basis.
Guns are much like parachutes. You probably will go thru your whole life and never need one - but if you do you will need one real bad - and nothing else can take its place. Richard Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
Maybe, but I have always found it rather easy to stay out of situations where I might need either. And it is also far more difficult to accidentally misuse a parachute. "You get that which you tolerate"
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Maybe, but I have always found it rather easy to stay out of situations where I might need either. And it is also far more difficult to accidentally misuse a parachute. "You get that which you tolerate"
Stan Shannon wrote:
And it is also far more difficult to accidentally misuse a parachute.
Ah ye of little faith. Not the whole story but... I was a civilian jumper as well as in the military. Once - in 1964 I believe after doing some weekend jumping and then going to the beach and enjoying some hot and cold refreshments we proceded down the PCH to a cutoff that led to some old fire control roads to play around. One of us ( Vernon ) tied his unpacked chute to the door post and the preceded to throw the damn thing out the back window of a 64 Mustang. Wonder of wonders it opened fully at about 60 MPH and brought our camel to acreehing halt - doing some minor body damage - and damn near killing us in the process. So yes Virginia you can misuse a parachute.
Stan Shannon wrote:
have always found it rather easy to stay out of situations where I might need either
You must lead a sheltered life. In all my many years I have needed - really needed a gun twice. In one situation the police arrived before I was shot ( by a guy with a shotgun ) in a simple traffic accident. I had no weapon with me at the time - I was in Louisiana. The other was on an interstate highway late at night near Dallas while waiting for a wrecker to come get my poor truck with TWO (2) flat tires and a car full of punks passed me and then looped back and was gonna start something . That time I had my pistol. Did not need to use it - just show it - and they went on their merry way. Prepare for the worst and never be surprised. Richard Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain