Religion????????
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Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
Yes, I believe in religion. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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Yes, I believe in religion. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven WrightOnly suckers believe in religion. The Vatican is really just a soundstage.
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Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
No, I don't "believe" in religion. I do believe in God and his teachings. Ben Franklin is wrong. ---sig---
Silence is the voice of complicity Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- Vincent Reynolds Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay PS. If you don't understand my sarcasm -- go to hell! -
Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
Religion is the practice of rituals. To that extent, I am not religious. I do, however, believe in and know an all powerful, loving God.
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Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
Atheist here. Regards, Nish
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Atheist here. Regards, Nish
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Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
#hackC++ wrote:
Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not.
I believe that religion exists - There is a church at the end of my street and I see people going there on Sunday. There are other churches in town and I've seen people go to them also. I saw people go to church when I was a child. I have seen people go to the mosque in Edinburgh. There is ample evidence that religion exists. :-D
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog
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Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
If by that you mean is there a God then absolutely yes. All you have to do is look out your window to prove that :) And before everyone trys to say that evolution caused it all remember that even Darwin himself said that evolution wasn't true. If I remember correctly he said something to the following: If any organism is so complex that it could not have come to its current state by a series of small mutations then I am wrong and the Eye is such and organism. (not a direct quote) -Richard Parsons
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Only suckers believe in religion. The Vatican is really just a soundstage.
Typical espeir answer "gotta love it" :) But in all seriousness what are your believes? -Richard
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Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
I don't have religion, but I do have Faith. :) For me it's an intensely personal thing...I don't preach, and firmly believe that if someone is destined to come to Faith they will do so when and where they are ready and not before. No amount of discussion or convincing would have led me to God earlier in my life...I just wasn't ready. When I was ready, I knew. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
Religion or faith? The tigress is here :-D
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I thought you were Druze? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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If by that you mean is there a God then absolutely yes. All you have to do is look out your window to prove that :) And before everyone trys to say that evolution caused it all remember that even Darwin himself said that evolution wasn't true. If I remember correctly he said something to the following: If any organism is so complex that it could not have come to its current state by a series of small mutations then I am wrong and the Eye is such and organism. (not a direct quote) -Richard Parsons
Richard Parsons wrote:
And before everyone trys to say that evolution caused it all remember that even Darwin himself said that evolution wasn't true. If I remember correctly he said something to the following: If any organism is so complex that it could not have come to its current state by a series of small mutations then I am wrong and the Eye is such and organism.
You are an ignorant fool. Darwin never said that evolution wasn't true and never said that the eye could not have evolved by a series of small mutations (actually, he never referred to mutations at all since his work preceded the modern understanding of genetics). For expository reasons, he did write that it "seems" absurd to suppose that the eye evolved through natural selection but he then went on to argue that this difficulty is apparent rather than real. He concludes his discussion with the following: If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down. But I can find out no such case. Not knowing this falls under the category of ignorance. Where the foolishness comes in is in so readily accepting the improbable claim that Darwin could be the father of modern evolutionary theory and that evolutionary theory would be so widely accepted if Darwin had himself claimed that evolution was false. No doubt you heard this story from some Christian apologist. News flash. Christian apologists frequently talk rubbish and not uncommonly tell lies. John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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If by that you mean is there a God then absolutely yes. All you have to do is look out your window to prove that :) And before everyone trys to say that evolution caused it all remember that even Darwin himself said that evolution wasn't true. If I remember correctly he said something to the following: If any organism is so complex that it could not have come to its current state by a series of small mutations then I am wrong and the Eye is such and organism. (not a direct quote) -Richard Parsons
Richard Parsons wrote:
Eye is such and organism
You might want to read Richard Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker where he demonstrates exactly how the eye came in to being citing ample evidence to back up this claim.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog
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Richard Parsons wrote:
Eye is such and organism
You might want to read Richard Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker where he demonstrates exactly how the eye came in to being citing ample evidence to back up this claim.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog
Thanks for the reference. :)
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Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
I don't. Everything has an explanation. - बुरा जो देखण मै चला, बुरा न िमलया कोय, जो मन खोजा आपणा तो मुझसे बुरा न कोय। Translation
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Richard Parsons wrote:
And before everyone trys to say that evolution caused it all remember that even Darwin himself said that evolution wasn't true. If I remember correctly he said something to the following: If any organism is so complex that it could not have come to its current state by a series of small mutations then I am wrong and the Eye is such and organism.
You are an ignorant fool. Darwin never said that evolution wasn't true and never said that the eye could not have evolved by a series of small mutations (actually, he never referred to mutations at all since his work preceded the modern understanding of genetics). For expository reasons, he did write that it "seems" absurd to suppose that the eye evolved through natural selection but he then went on to argue that this difficulty is apparent rather than real. He concludes his discussion with the following: If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down. But I can find out no such case. Not knowing this falls under the category of ignorance. Where the foolishness comes in is in so readily accepting the improbable claim that Darwin could be the father of modern evolutionary theory and that evolutionary theory would be so widely accepted if Darwin had himself claimed that evolution was false. No doubt you heard this story from some Christian apologist. News flash. Christian apologists frequently talk rubbish and not uncommonly tell lies. John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
My apologies for not looking up the exact quote but I was in a hurry to leave the office :) so if for that I am an “ignorant fool” then so be it. Here is the exact quote: “To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.” For those who would actually like to read about it here is the clickety: Darwin vs the eye[^]
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My apologies for not looking up the exact quote but I was in a hurry to leave the office :) so if for that I am an “ignorant fool” then so be it. Here is the exact quote: “To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.” For those who would actually like to read about it here is the clickety: Darwin vs the eye[^]
Richard Parsons wrote:
My apologies for not looking up the exact quote but I was in a hurry to leave the office so if for that I am an “ignorant fool” then so be it.
The problem is not with the "exactness" of the quote. The problem is that you have asserted something that is simply false, namely that Darwin believed that the supposed inability of the eye to arise from evolutionary processes refuted his theory of evolution.
Richard Parsons wrote:
“To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.” For those who would actually like to read about it here is the clickety: Darwin vs the eye[^]
And after the passage you quote we read: "Yet, later on in the same chapter of his book, he explained how he believed it evolved anyway and that the ‘absurdity’ was illusory." So even Answers in Genesis (a notoriously dishonest organization) isn't supporting your original ludicrous claim that Darwin believed that difficulties with the evolution of the eye disproved his theory. Answers in Genesis returns to form in claiming: "Had Darwin had the knowledge about the eye and its associated systems that man has today (which is a great deal more than what it was in his time), he may have given up his naturalistic theory on the origin of living things." Yeah. Pigs may fly. Belief in evolution among modern scientists is stronger than it was in Darwin's time. The more evidence we have, the stronger the case for evolution becomes. John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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Whats your take on religion. Do you "believe" or not. "When a man ceases to believe in god, he does not believe in nothing. He believes in everything." ..........G.K. Chesterson "When in comes to bullshit...bigtime, major league bullshit...you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims...religion." ..........George Carlin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." ..........Ben Franklin
Religion is the result of a set of very fundamental instincts which define our humanity. We all place our faith in something. It is impossible not to. The most modern incrnation of religion consists of reason and rationality and the scientific methodlogies. Yet, the notion that the human mind is even capable of comphrehending the true nature of the universe is an act of faith in and of itself. Science, ultimately, is nothing more than a way of quantifying what we observe, of reducing it down to a set of precise mathmatical relationships. The problem with that is that we have to accept on faith that what we are observing and measuring is real, while the only reality we have any direct experience with is the phenomenon of our own conscious existence which we have yet to achieve anything remotely approching a satisfying explanation for. "You get that which you tolerate"