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  • K KaRl

    ihoecken wrote:

    They take your job

    I don't think so - For the moment, I still have to meet an IT engineer who is an illegal immigrant.

    ihoecken wrote:

    they don't pay taxes

    They may not pay income tax but they pay others, like VAT.

    ihoecken wrote:

    And no one can force you to buy his goods

    But we have to let enter these goods on our markets.

    ihoecken wrote:

    So why should he be allowed to force you to let him into your country?

    Why are we forced to let enter foreign goods into our country?


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    Ingo
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    K(arl) wrote:

    ihoecken wrote: They take your job I don't think so - For the moment, I still have to meet an IT engineer who is an illegal immigrant.

    Very nice. What about others?

    K(arl) wrote:

    They may not pay income tax

    So they are cheaper.

    K(arl) wrote:

    ihoecken wrote: And no one can force you to buy his goods But we have to let enter these goods on our markets.

    You can let them enter your country, too. But like the goods it's your decision. There are many immigrants who are welcome. But no illegally ones. It's like illegally goods - they are stopped, too.

    K(arl) wrote:

    Why are we forced to let enter foreign goods into our country?

    Come on. If you want to discuss use arguements. If you just give stupid comments, I won't discuss with you. ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

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    • K KaRl

      Globalization means goods and services can travel freely and be exchanged worldwide, but at the same time, men are not allowed to do the same.


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      Nish Nishant
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      There's no paradox here. Human beings are not the same as goods and services. Regards, Nish


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        K(arl) wrote:

        men

        What about women? ;P Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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        KaRl
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        :doh: - You're right, I should have written "human beings".


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        • I Ingo

          Marc Clifton wrote:

          What about women?

          If he is a chauvinist, he would meant them with goods ;) ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

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          KaRl
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          Nah, it is a translation error :-O


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          • K KaRl

            Nah, it is a translation error :-O


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            K(arl) wrote:

            Nah, it is a translation error

            :) Well, I did the same more than ones. No problem for me :-D ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

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              K(arl) wrote:

              ihoecken wrote: They take your job I don't think so - For the moment, I still have to meet an IT engineer who is an illegal immigrant.

              Very nice. What about others?

              K(arl) wrote:

              They may not pay income tax

              So they are cheaper.

              K(arl) wrote:

              ihoecken wrote: And no one can force you to buy his goods But we have to let enter these goods on our markets.

              You can let them enter your country, too. But like the goods it's your decision. There are many immigrants who are welcome. But no illegally ones. It's like illegally goods - they are stopped, too.

              K(arl) wrote:

              Why are we forced to let enter foreign goods into our country?

              Come on. If you want to discuss use arguements. If you just give stupid comments, I won't discuss with you. ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

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              KaRl
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              ihoecken wrote:

              What about others?

              You mean sweatshop workers?

              ihoecken wrote:

              So they are cheaper.

              The reason they are cheaper is they are illegal immigrants. So they cannot open their mouth to improve their conditions, they are always under the threat to be denounced.

              ihoecken wrote:

              But like the goods it's your decision

              No way. It is the WTO's decision.

              ihoecken wrote:

              There are many immigrants who are welcome. But no illegally ones

              I don't pretend 'we' have to welcome illegal immigrants. I'm just surprised it is easier for a good produced in a chinese laogai to enter my country than for a man who wants a better life.

              ihoecken wrote:

              Come on. If you want to discuss use arguements. If you just give stupid comments, I won't discuss with you.

              It is not because you don't understand an argument that it is a stupid one... Look at GMOs for instance : In Europe we will be forced to accept them on our markets even if we don't want them.[^]


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                There's no paradox here. Human beings are not the same as goods and services. Regards, Nish


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                The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!

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                KaRl
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                I know a former boss who would disagree...


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                • K KaRl

                  I know a former boss who would disagree...


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                  K(arl) wrote:

                  I know a former boss who would disagree...

                  :-D Regards, Nish


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                  • K KaRl

                    ihoecken wrote:

                    What about others?

                    You mean sweatshop workers?

                    ihoecken wrote:

                    So they are cheaper.

                    The reason they are cheaper is they are illegal immigrants. So they cannot open their mouth to improve their conditions, they are always under the threat to be denounced.

                    ihoecken wrote:

                    But like the goods it's your decision

                    No way. It is the WTO's decision.

                    ihoecken wrote:

                    There are many immigrants who are welcome. But no illegally ones

                    I don't pretend 'we' have to welcome illegal immigrants. I'm just surprised it is easier for a good produced in a chinese laogai to enter my country than for a man who wants a better life.

                    ihoecken wrote:

                    Come on. If you want to discuss use arguements. If you just give stupid comments, I won't discuss with you.

                    It is not because you don't understand an argument that it is a stupid one... Look at GMOs for instance : In Europe we will be forced to accept them on our markets even if we don't want them.[^]


                    Pull the tapeworm out of your ass Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                    K(arl) wrote:

                    You mean sweatshop workers?

                    Racist. You think that's all poor immigrants are good for?

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                    • K KaRl

                      ihoecken wrote:

                      They take your job

                      I don't think so - For the moment, I still have to meet an IT engineer who is an illegal immigrant.

                      ihoecken wrote:

                      they don't pay taxes

                      They may not pay income tax but they pay others, like VAT.

                      ihoecken wrote:

                      And no one can force you to buy his goods

                      But we have to let enter these goods on our markets.

                      ihoecken wrote:

                      So why should he be allowed to force you to let him into your country?

                      Why are we forced to let enter foreign goods into our country?


                      Pull the tapeworm out of your ass Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                      K(arl) wrote:

                      They may not pay income tax

                      Apparently, from what I've heard, there are some that actually pay income taxes....because they own homes. "How did they get to buy a home if they are here illegally?" I can hear this question from some of you. The answer is that they used forged documentation using someone else's social security number. They are paying income taxes into someone else's account and using someone else's credit information to buy homes and cars. The going price for this documentation is $500 - $1000 dollars.

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