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  • P pseudonym67

    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    Is the US continuing to make nukes? I don't think so

    Then you'd be wrong. from a couple of years ago. http://www.slate.com/id/2099425/[^] Quote bit "Measured in "real dollars" (that is, adjusting for inflation), this year's spending on nuclear activities is equal to what Ronald Reagan spent at the height of the U.S.-Soviet standoff. It exceeds by over 50 percent the average annual sum ($4.2 billion) that the United States spent—again, in real dollars—throughout the four and a half decades of the Cold War. There is no nuclear arms race going on now. The world no longer offers many suitable nuclear targets. President Bush is trying to persuade other nations—especially "rogue regimes"—to forgo their nuclear ambitions. Yet he is shoveling money to U.S. nuclear weapons laboratories as if the Soviet Union still existed and the Cold War still raged." pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "So keep that smile on your face. Have a drink to help you sleep at night. They got what they desired. We're passive in their brave new world." New Model Army

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    Red Stateler
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    pseudonym67 wrote:

    Then you'd be wrong.

    You are. The US doesn't currently make nuclear weapons (and hasn't sine the nuclear non-proliferation treaty). You'll notice that the article you quoted specifically avoids stating that the US is manufacturing nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are extremely expensive to maintain, and that's where all the money goes. We also don't detonate nuclear weapons anymore (which was once necessary for maintenance) so we have supercomputers that are used to help in that department.

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    • S Sarath C

      Hi All, American govt largely developing and storing nuclear weapons. On the other hand using their power military power, they're resist other countries like iraq on developing such weapons. Is this right or not? SaRath

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      Tim Carmichael
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      Having let the nuclear genie out of the bottle, how many of us would like to be able to reverse history and wipe out all knowledge of the use of nuclear weapons? Unfortunately, we can't.

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      • R Ryan Roberts

        Don't look for morality in international politics, you will only see your own prejudices. Mine are that undemocratic, belligerents theocracies should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons any more than I would like to see an assault rifle in the hands of a schizophrenic. The whole MAD philosophy breaks down without rational actors, which for all their bluster, both the west and the soviets were throughout the cold war. Ryan

        "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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        Ryan Roberts wrote:

        Mine are that undemocratic, belligerents theocracies should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons any more than I would like to see an assault rifle in the hands of a schizophrenic.

        Oh, the irony!

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          Ryan Roberts wrote:

          Mine are that undemocratic, belligerents theocracies should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons any more than I would like to see an assault rifle in the hands of a schizophrenic.

          Oh, the irony!

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          Red Stateler
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          Why is that ironic? George Bush (and all our other electable officials) were elected. GW is also not a church leader and we have complete religious freedom in this country. Are you angry because your preferred candidate(s) lost or something?

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            Ryan Roberts wrote:

            Mine are that undemocratic, belligerents theocracies should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons any more than I would like to see an assault rifle in the hands of a schizophrenic.

            Oh, the irony!

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            Ryan Roberts
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            Oh, the crappy moral equivalence! Ryan

            "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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            • S Sarath C

              sorry im not used to visit soapbox forum SaRath

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              Eytukan
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              SaRath C wrote:

              sorry im not used to visit soapbox forum

              Your question shows it! to be true almost world wars have happened and over on this issue here. Anyway, I'd reply you still . NO.


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                SaRath C wrote:

                sorry im not used to visit soapbox forum

                Your question shows it! to be true almost world wars have happened and over on this issue here. Anyway, I'd reply you still . NO.


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                Eytukan
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                I mean , It's not right. [couldn't modify the previous message :( ]


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                • R Red Stateler

                  Yeah, but that's only because we're not right next to France!

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                  :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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                  • R Red Stateler

                    I think there was some discussion of making small tactical nukes to be used in the battlefield (launched out of rocket launchers and such), but they probably won't do that.

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                    Lost User
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                    Wasn't that what "CRUZE" missiles originally intended for? I recall them being based at Greenham Common in the UK.

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                    • R Red Stateler

                      Why is that ironic? George Bush (and all our other electable officials) were elected. GW is also not a church leader and we have complete religious freedom in this country. Are you angry because your preferred candidate(s) lost or something?

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                      Colin Angus Mackay
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                      I think the irony was that Iran is a theocracy and it held elections and is therefore a democracy* * I don't know enough about the process of its elections, so I cannot comment on the legitimicy of its electoral process. However, there are western nations where the government gained a majority despite only 35% of the people voting for them (i.e. the UK)


                      "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Is the US continuing to make nukes? I don't think so - I think they have enough already, and making more wouldn't serve any purpose, unless they want to sell some of it in future. Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.

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                        Nuclear weapons have a limited shelf-life. I believe (and I could be wrong) the US is manufacturing more nuclear weapons (more modern and sophisticated versions), but not at a rate to replace the ones being decommissioned. Also, back in 2002 Bush and Putin signed an arms reduction treaty: President Putin and [Bush] have signed a treaty that will substantially reduce our nuclear -- strategic nuclear warhead arsenals to the range of 1,700 to 2,200, the lowest level in decades. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/05/20020524-10.html[^] Oh, and here's a graph of the US nuclear arsenal from 1945 to 2002: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_nuclear_warheads_1945-2002_graph.png[^] ----------------------------------------------------- Empires Of Steel[^] -- modified at 19:23 Thursday 25th May, 2006

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          Is the US continuing to make nukes? I don't think so - I think they have enough already, and making more wouldn't serve any purpose, unless they want to sell some of it in future. Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.

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                          Stephen Hewitt
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                          Try your Google fu on Reliable Replacement Warhead[^] if you're interested. The U.S. is planning the next generation of nukes for itself. Steve

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