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Hackers are good for you

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    JohnSaxby
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    I've just read an article pointed to by the newsletter where some one compares coding and bridge building. (I must say though there are no holes in my code.) Instead of moaning on and on about hackers, people should realise that the sort of testing these guys/gals do for free would cost $millions. So nobody likes it when someone points out a bug in public, but think what Microsoft products would be like if it weren't for hackers. Imagine if governments were the only hackers. Well done to them all I say and whatever the cost its much cheaper than any testing team and they still wouldn't find them the slipshod oafs. :Laugh

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      I've just read an article pointed to by the newsletter where some one compares coding and bridge building. (I must say though there are no holes in my code.) Instead of moaning on and on about hackers, people should realise that the sort of testing these guys/gals do for free would cost $millions. So nobody likes it when someone points out a bug in public, but think what Microsoft products would be like if it weren't for hackers. Imagine if governments were the only hackers. Well done to them all I say and whatever the cost its much cheaper than any testing team and they still wouldn't find them the slipshod oafs. :Laugh

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      JohnSaxby wrote:

      Instead of moaning on and on about hackers, people should realise that the sort of testing these guys/gals do for free would cost $millions. So nobody likes it when someone points out a bug in public, but think what Microsoft products would be like if it weren't for hackers.

      That's circular. You're saying that it's good that hackers exploit systems because then the software vendor is required to fix those exploits. That's like bragging that you go around smashing car windows until the car manufacturer finally starts installing armored glass.

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        I've just read an article pointed to by the newsletter where some one compares coding and bridge building. (I must say though there are no holes in my code.) Instead of moaning on and on about hackers, people should realise that the sort of testing these guys/gals do for free would cost $millions. So nobody likes it when someone points out a bug in public, but think what Microsoft products would be like if it weren't for hackers. Imagine if governments were the only hackers. Well done to them all I say and whatever the cost its much cheaper than any testing team and they still wouldn't find them the slipshod oafs. :Laugh

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        Lost User
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        JohnSaxby wrote:

        there are no holes in my code

        You test that well? If you do you must be late to market. And/or expensive. Nunc est bibendum

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          I've just read an article pointed to by the newsletter where some one compares coding and bridge building. (I must say though there are no holes in my code.) Instead of moaning on and on about hackers, people should realise that the sort of testing these guys/gals do for free would cost $millions. So nobody likes it when someone points out a bug in public, but think what Microsoft products would be like if it weren't for hackers. Imagine if governments were the only hackers. Well done to them all I say and whatever the cost its much cheaper than any testing team and they still wouldn't find them the slipshod oafs. :Laugh

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          Diego Moita
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          I confess my first instinct is to react against this idea. Hackers are a natural enemy (should say predator?) of every programmer. However, even not agreeing entirelly, there is something I like in this attitude: it encourages you to be humble of your code. Good books on programming (from McConnel's "Code Complete" to Meyers' "Effective C++") stress that modesty is one of the most important virtues of a good programmer, and I agree. At a close look, no one is normal.
          Caetano Veloso

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            I've just read an article pointed to by the newsletter where some one compares coding and bridge building. (I must say though there are no holes in my code.) Instead of moaning on and on about hackers, people should realise that the sort of testing these guys/gals do for free would cost $millions. So nobody likes it when someone points out a bug in public, but think what Microsoft products would be like if it weren't for hackers. Imagine if governments were the only hackers. Well done to them all I say and whatever the cost its much cheaper than any testing team and they still wouldn't find them the slipshod oafs. :Laugh

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            Tim Carmichael
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            While I adhor malicious hacking (or whatever term is in vogue these days), I do appreciate people who will point out vulnerabilities... but point them out to the developer/corporation, not to the whole world!

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              I've just read an article pointed to by the newsletter where some one compares coding and bridge building. (I must say though there are no holes in my code.) Instead of moaning on and on about hackers, people should realise that the sort of testing these guys/gals do for free would cost $millions. So nobody likes it when someone points out a bug in public, but think what Microsoft products would be like if it weren't for hackers. Imagine if governments were the only hackers. Well done to them all I say and whatever the cost its much cheaper than any testing team and they still wouldn't find them the slipshod oafs. :Laugh

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              Allah On Acid
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              Speaking of holes in code, i dont think this is hacking, but i found an exploit in vBulletin software. If you modify the textbox lengths after you load the post new thread page, you can make threads with very long titles.

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                Speaking of holes in code, i dont think this is hacking, but i found an exploit in vBulletin software. If you modify the textbox lengths after you load the post new thread page, you can make threads with very long titles.

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                J Dunlap
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                Yeah, that's a pretty common trick - often textboxes on web forms are only limited via HTML and not by serverside validation code.

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