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  • P Philip Patrick

    Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? :(( I'm disapointed Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!

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    Nish Nishant
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    Philip Patrick wrote: Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? Consider yourself lucky Philip. here I need to develop pages that will work not just with IE but with Netscape on Linux/Solaris. You wont believe how ugly everything looks on a Solaris. Even Linux is better. Solaris sucks!!! My boss was even saying he wants the web app I am doing now to work on Opera for Linux. Nish Make MSDN universal, FREE!

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    • P Philip Patrick

      Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? :(( I'm disapointed Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      Philip Patrick wrote: Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? You have to remember what's it is like to not know anything about computers. Only the "Internet savvy" even have a clue as to what a browser is for. Others don't really see the Internet as abstract, but they tend to relate it to their browsers. Like so many people believe AOL is the Internet. My mother for instance has no idea of the browser's role even though she uses one daily. At her work, I'm sure the IS dept will handle upgrades for her, but at home I seriously doubt she'll upgrade unless I go over there and do it for her. I can't upgrade a part in my car that I don't even know exists. It's the same concept. Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage: imputek.com

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        Philip Patrick wrote: Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? You have to remember what's it is like to not know anything about computers. Only the "Internet savvy" even have a clue as to what a browser is for. Others don't really see the Internet as abstract, but they tend to relate it to their browsers. Like so many people believe AOL is the Internet. My mother for instance has no idea of the browser's role even though she uses one daily. At her work, I'm sure the IS dept will handle upgrades for her, but at home I seriously doubt she'll upgrade unless I go over there and do it for her. I can't upgrade a part in my car that I don't even know exists. It's the same concept. Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage: imputek.com

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        moliate
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        Jeremy Falcon wrote: Like so many people believe AOL is the Internet. Risking to sound like a caveman, I really have to ask this now: What exactly is AOL??? I thought it was just another ISP, but I keep running into these unfamiliar terms like "screenname", "keyword" and "AOL browser". Does AOL provide an entirely new application layer to the internet? What can you do, and what can't you do with AOL? Why would they write a special browser (is it built on top of IE?)? :confused: /moliate

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          Jeremy Falcon wrote: Like so many people believe AOL is the Internet. Risking to sound like a caveman, I really have to ask this now: What exactly is AOL??? I thought it was just another ISP, but I keep running into these unfamiliar terms like "screenname", "keyword" and "AOL browser". Does AOL provide an entirely new application layer to the internet? What can you do, and what can't you do with AOL? Why would they write a special browser (is it built on top of IE?)? :confused: /moliate

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          moliate wrote: What exactly is AOL??? I thought it was just another ISP, According to AOL (America Offline :)) terminology they aren't just an ISP. Technically, an ISP provides Internet access -- bar none. AOL is a content provider and they give you access to the Internet as well. You need their software to use it however. They do use IE for the AOL browser via OLE, but they add their own special crap on top of that -- like extra JPEG compression. A screen name is just their term for username. They use a keyword based system to assist in navigation throughout their service. moliate wrote: Risking to sound like a caveman, I really have to ask this now: Uga booga booga! Now that sounds like a caveman. ;P Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage: imputek.com

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            Philip Patrick wrote: Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? Consider yourself lucky Philip. here I need to develop pages that will work not just with IE but with Netscape on Linux/Solaris. You wont believe how ugly everything looks on a Solaris. Even Linux is better. Solaris sucks!!! My boss was even saying he wants the web app I am doing now to work on Opera for Linux. Nish Make MSDN universal, FREE!

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            Philip Patrick
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            Umm, I'd like to kick your boss' arse, lol Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!

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              Some people are scared of potential problems either with the upgrade process itself, or with the end product, and so force themselves to use older products. Other people just don't see the need. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" Though to use that argument for web browsers weems a little stupid, given that they are still evolving. ____________________ David Wulff :bob: I know who you are mate.

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              Philip Patrick
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              So we need to make them upgrade their browsers! As for myself, I added a lil javascript which will take you to www.webstandards.org if your browser doesn't support standards. Try to navigate to my homepage with something like Netscape 4.x :) I know it can be a problem for buisness sites, which don't care of what people using, but want all of them to be on their sites. And here I see the problem. Instead of telling people "Hey! Upgrade your browser!" they just supporting all of them. This is awful! :( Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!

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                Some people are scared of potential problems either with the upgrade process itself, or with the end product, and so force themselves to use older products. Other people just don't see the need. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" Though to use that argument for web browsers weems a little stupid, given that they are still evolving. ____________________ David Wulff :bob: I know who you are mate.

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                Hey, btw, nice signature, I clicked :) Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!

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                  Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? :(( I'm disapointed Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!

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                  Philip Patrick wrote: Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? Ignorance, This is why so many software companies have tried to make there products auto update, as they realised users wouldn't do it, even whilst free. Being a webdeveloper also sucks due to the number of browsers that do stuff that isn't in the standards. Having to put in special features for Navigator or Opera sucks big time. I'd love to see a return to text based browsers. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"

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                    Philip Patrick wrote: Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? Consider yourself lucky Philip. here I need to develop pages that will work not just with IE but with Netscape on Linux/Solaris. You wont believe how ugly everything looks on a Solaris. Even Linux is better. Solaris sucks!!! My boss was even saying he wants the web app I am doing now to work on Opera for Linux. Nish Make MSDN universal, FREE!

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                    Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: My boss was even saying he wants the web app I am doing now to work on Opera for Linux. That's awful. What a horrid world we live in. :-( Regardz Colin J Davies

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                    • P Philip Patrick

                      Hey, btw, nice signature, I clicked :) Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!

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                      Shh.... We wouldn't want another one being banned... ;P ____________________ David Wulff :bob: I know who you are mate.

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                        Jeremy Falcon wrote: Like so many people believe AOL is the Internet. Risking to sound like a caveman, I really have to ask this now: What exactly is AOL??? I thought it was just another ISP, but I keep running into these unfamiliar terms like "screenname", "keyword" and "AOL browser". Does AOL provide an entirely new application layer to the internet? What can you do, and what can't you do with AOL? Why would they write a special browser (is it built on top of IE?)? :confused: /moliate

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                        moliate wrote: What exactly is AOL??? AOL is an ICP... Internet Crap Provider -- no wait, make that Internet Content Provider (my mistake). :rolleyes: ____________________ David Wulff :bob: I know who you are mate.

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                        • D David Wulff

                          Shh.... We wouldn't want another one being banned... ;P ____________________ David Wulff :bob: I know who you are mate.

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                          David Wulff wrote: Shh.... We wouldn't want another one being banned... Gosh, it is oppresive here these days, how do we tolerate the crippling of our creativity. :-( Regardz Colin J Davies

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                            Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? :(( I'm disapointed Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!

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                            Matt Newman
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                            For old 200 MHz machines that won't run anything higher that Windows 95 and have very limited browser options. (Trust me I am trying to get the owner to replaces it :) ) -:suss:Matt Newman / Anti-Linux Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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                              Shh.... We wouldn't want another one being banned... ;P ____________________ David Wulff :bob: I know who you are mate.

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                              Jon Newman
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                              I think the lover mouse on yer site is great BTW. ;) I'm not late, I'm just not as early as I could have been. MSN Messenger address: jonathann4@hotmail.com feel free to chat!

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                                Why, people, why the hell you are using old browsers??? Anyone can tell me a good reason to use old browser? Like Netscape 4.x or IE 4.x? :(( I'm disapointed Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!

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                                Christian Graus
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                                My boss when I was a sales rep asked why the Javascript I wrote for our page did not work, I couldn't convince him I could not write Javascript that would work on his browser - Netscape 3. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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