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  • C Chris Losinger

    Anonymous wrote: Is that fair???? yes. there is no reason, in this economy, that a US company should go out of its way to sponsor anyone. there are plenty of legal resident programmers who can do the job, without the hassles of sponsorship. -c


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    Bigot!! ur probably a newbie who has had a rough deal in the job market and think ur a hotshot who knows everything. did u get rejected cos u didnt know the difference between a C pointer and C reference? Just cos some resident puts 5+ years experience on his resume doesnt mean he really knows C++(he may think he does which is different)

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      Bigot!! ur probably a newbie who has had a rough deal in the job market and think ur a hotshot who knows everything. did u get rejected cos u didnt know the difference between a C pointer and C reference? Just cos some resident puts 5+ years experience on his resume doesnt mean he really knows C++(he may think he does which is different)

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      1. Congratulations on having the courage to flame people anonymously. That must really take some guts. 2. Given that you can't even type the English language, one has to wonder how you manage to climb a soap box so readily, it's a wonder you don't fall over it and break your nose. 3. Chris clearly knows a lot more about C than the difference between a pointer and a reference, as is evident by his frequent contributions to this site. What have you contributed ? 4. Why the HELL do you expect that US companies should be required to sponsor someone from OS when there are local people who can do the job, and at what point are you not a hypocrite for calling Chris a bigot ( which is completely unjustifed ) on the basis of your own bigotry ( the assumption that as a US resident he doesn't know his stuff ). Luckily this is rant n rave, so I am free to say that you are a weasely ball of maggot droppings, and that you should shut your hole unless you have something remotely intelligent to say, maybe even using real English instead of lame 'ur a hotshot' type garbage. Do you need to type quickly in case mummy finds you at the computer after your bedtime, or are you simply a moron ? Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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        ATTABOY!! WELL SAID!! If somehow u manage to have all he A-Z alphabet soup skills on ur resume, you need to have a Green Card/be a citizen of the US. I for one happen to have quite a few of those skills, but am not able to find my dream(read hardcore geek) job, cos 9/10 places I dont even get interviewed cos of my non-permanent immigration status. These companies want someone else to shoulder the burden of sponsoring Green cards and go through all the(formidable) formalities, then are ready to snap up the guys who become permanent residents. Is that fair????

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        Anonymous wrote: Is that fair???? Yes, it is. If you're going to provide an extra burden to an employer, then you need to stand clearly out from the pack in order to be worth it. If your resume looks like your post, I'd be surprised if you got an interview. Business and charity are different concepts, and the world does not owe you a living. Deal with it. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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          Bigot!! ur probably a newbie who has had a rough deal in the job market and think ur a hotshot who knows everything. did u get rejected cos u didnt know the difference between a C pointer and C reference? Just cos some resident puts 5+ years experience on his resume doesnt mean he really knows C++(he may think he does which is different)

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          Anonymous wrote: Bigot!! Oh this is so typical. An anonymous coward screaming bigotry as soon as someone states an opinion he/she/it does not agree with. Get a Life!!! --- CPUA 0x5041 Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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          • C Christian Graus

            1. Congratulations on having the courage to flame people anonymously. That must really take some guts. 2. Given that you can't even type the English language, one has to wonder how you manage to climb a soap box so readily, it's a wonder you don't fall over it and break your nose. 3. Chris clearly knows a lot more about C than the difference between a pointer and a reference, as is evident by his frequent contributions to this site. What have you contributed ? 4. Why the HELL do you expect that US companies should be required to sponsor someone from OS when there are local people who can do the job, and at what point are you not a hypocrite for calling Chris a bigot ( which is completely unjustifed ) on the basis of your own bigotry ( the assumption that as a US resident he doesn't know his stuff ). Luckily this is rant n rave, so I am free to say that you are a weasely ball of maggot droppings, and that you should shut your hole unless you have something remotely intelligent to say, maybe even using real English instead of lame 'ur a hotshot' type garbage. Do you need to type quickly in case mummy finds you at the computer after your bedtime, or are you simply a moron ? Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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            Lets put things in perspective. My apologies for using strong language. It was a momentary lapse of judgment. Let me also make it clear that I am NOT insinuating that residents do not know their stuff. I had some nasty experiences during the dot com era, interviews being arranged and then cancelled at the last minute. A couple of times, I was scheduled for phone interviews from recruiting agencies(prominent ones), I took off from work and the calls never came through. The sole common reason was my immigration status. The same companies post job ads calling for citizens/GREEN CARDS. They are only too willing to enjoy the fruits of the hassles other companies have gone through. To me, that is sheer hypocrisy. This is the main point I am trying to emphasize

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              Lets put things in perspective. My apologies for using strong language. It was a momentary lapse of judgment. Let me also make it clear that I am NOT insinuating that residents do not know their stuff. I had some nasty experiences during the dot com era, interviews being arranged and then cancelled at the last minute. A couple of times, I was scheduled for phone interviews from recruiting agencies(prominent ones), I took off from work and the calls never came through. The sole common reason was my immigration status. The same companies post job ads calling for citizens/GREEN CARDS. They are only too willing to enjoy the fruits of the hassles other companies have gone through. To me, that is sheer hypocrisy. This is the main point I am trying to emphasize

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              Well, that may well be tough. However, it's not hypocritical at all to make clear that you only want to talk to people where the hassle of sponsoring someone is not going to be a factor. It's stating clearly what you're willing to do. In a job market where there are not enough people for positions, companies will accept the hassle more readily, as it stands they know they don't need to, so they won't. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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                Well, that may well be tough. However, it's not hypocritical at all to make clear that you only want to talk to people where the hassle of sponsoring someone is not going to be a factor. It's stating clearly what you're willing to do. In a job market where there are not enough people for positions, companies will accept the hassle more readily, as it stands they know they don't need to, so they won't. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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                Christian, I do my best not to read posts by anonymous posters, let alone reply to them. I don't want to tell you what to do, but if someone hasn't got the time, to create a Nick let a lone a name for themselves, there post isn't worth reading. All the same nice flaming. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                • C Christian Graus

                  Well, that may well be tough. However, it's not hypocritical at all to make clear that you only want to talk to people where the hassle of sponsoring someone is not going to be a factor. It's stating clearly what you're willing to do. In a job market where there are not enough people for positions, companies will accept the hassle more readily, as it stands they know they don't need to, so they won't. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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                  Christian, I do my best not to read posts by anonymous posters, let alone reply to them. I don't want to tell you what to do, but if someone hasn't got the time, to create a Nick let alone a name for themselves, there post isn't worth reading. All the same nice flaming. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"

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                    Christian, I do my best not to read posts by anonymous posters, let alone reply to them. I don't want to tell you what to do, but if someone hasn't got the time, to create a Nick let alone a name for themselves, there post isn't worth reading. All the same nice flaming. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

                    Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                    I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"

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                    You're right of course, but it was fun all the same :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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                      You're right of course, but it was fun all the same :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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                      Christian Graus wrote: You're right of course, but it was fun all the same Yeah, maybe I should just wander around the forums oneday flaming Anonymous posters for the hell of it. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                      I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"

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