Adnan's emotions... A white paper [modified]
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My Adnan is a representative of Muslim.Dont confuse him with Adnan Siddiqui Even If you beat your mother there would be two opinitons.Can we formulate certain rules and ask others to follow this.Definitely there would be protests. Eventhough I am not one of them ,I should say muslims are the most stressed community nowadays.Their rituals,customs,way of life and everything has been a source for criticism by others.Mainly because most of their practices might appear too much conservative to others. But the discipline of the Muslim lifestyle is unimaginable (I often wondered when my Muslim friends offer their unchallengeable daily prayers and fast without even having drop of water during Ramsan period). The silent agitation against Muslims got strong after 9/11. And we can see many instances after that the whole community being crucified on daily basis .We could have definitely seen that the campaigning against Islam terrorism has been converted against the whole Islam.Whether it is the murder of an innocent brazilian by London police or the mass visa denial to U.S for those who have muslim naims. It’s understandable how much this would have hurt the majority of Muslims. We can imagine the mental stress of a normal muslim who is being viewed strange creature by the so called do gooders.Even sikhs have been harrassed simply because they keeps beard and turbon. We can not see the Mohammed cartoons as a separate issue, rather it could be seen as the continuation of that campaigning against Islam. This and only this provoked Islamists all over the world. And as like supplying petrol to fire many newspapers republished the cartoons aggressively saying the issue of freedom of speech. But the community would have been respected if the protests were peaceful Some people would quote the comparatively mild protests towards Davinci code by Christians. But we should not forget that there is no coordinated campigining towards Christianity and this was an odd one. But be it Pardha, liberation of women, shariah ..Everything in Islam has become a subject to crticism. And when they criticize they are forgetting that all religions in the world have black histories and all of them had built up on mere faith rather than concrete proofs. I have seen no Indian newspaper supporting the war in Iraq. And the recent voting of India against Iran has been criticized highly in India. So what we need is a mind to accept others, even if they are opposing our attitudes. And we shou
jithAtran - ii wrote:
ut we should not forget that there is no coordinated campigining towards Christianity
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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My Adnan is a representative of Muslim.Dont confuse him with Adnan Siddiqui Even If you beat your mother there would be two opinitons.Can we formulate certain rules and ask others to follow this.Definitely there would be protests. Eventhough I am not one of them ,I should say muslims are the most stressed community nowadays.Their rituals,customs,way of life and everything has been a source for criticism by others.Mainly because most of their practices might appear too much conservative to others. But the discipline of the Muslim lifestyle is unimaginable (I often wondered when my Muslim friends offer their unchallengeable daily prayers and fast without even having drop of water during Ramsan period). The silent agitation against Muslims got strong after 9/11. And we can see many instances after that the whole community being crucified on daily basis .We could have definitely seen that the campaigning against Islam terrorism has been converted against the whole Islam.Whether it is the murder of an innocent brazilian by London police or the mass visa denial to U.S for those who have muslim naims. It’s understandable how much this would have hurt the majority of Muslims. We can imagine the mental stress of a normal muslim who is being viewed strange creature by the so called do gooders.Even sikhs have been harrassed simply because they keeps beard and turbon. We can not see the Mohammed cartoons as a separate issue, rather it could be seen as the continuation of that campaigning against Islam. This and only this provoked Islamists all over the world. And as like supplying petrol to fire many newspapers republished the cartoons aggressively saying the issue of freedom of speech. But the community would have been respected if the protests were peaceful Some people would quote the comparatively mild protests towards Davinci code by Christians. But we should not forget that there is no coordinated campigining towards Christianity and this was an odd one. But be it Pardha, liberation of women, shariah ..Everything in Islam has become a subject to crticism. And when they criticize they are forgetting that all religions in the world have black histories and all of them had built up on mere faith rather than concrete proofs. I have seen no Indian newspaper supporting the war in Iraq. And the recent voting of India against Iran has been criticized highly in India. So what we need is a mind to accept others, even if they are opposing our attitudes. And we shou
jithAtran - ii wrote:
So what we need is a mind to accept others, even if they are opposing our attitudes
What if their opposing viewpoit is to kill me? Should I still accept them?
jithAtran - ii wrote:
And we should not forget that even the poorest of poor has an individuality and right to hold their opinion.
I agree, just dont blow yourself up next to the guy you disagree with. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" -- modified at 13:01 Wednesday 14th June, 2006
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My Adnan is a representative of Muslim.Dont confuse him with Adnan Siddiqui Even If you beat your mother there would be two opinitons.Can we formulate certain rules and ask others to follow this.Definitely there would be protests. Eventhough I am not one of them ,I should say muslims are the most stressed community nowadays.Their rituals,customs,way of life and everything has been a source for criticism by others.Mainly because most of their practices might appear too much conservative to others. But the discipline of the Muslim lifestyle is unimaginable (I often wondered when my Muslim friends offer their unchallengeable daily prayers and fast without even having drop of water during Ramsan period). The silent agitation against Muslims got strong after 9/11. And we can see many instances after that the whole community being crucified on daily basis .We could have definitely seen that the campaigning against Islam terrorism has been converted against the whole Islam.Whether it is the murder of an innocent brazilian by London police or the mass visa denial to U.S for those who have muslim naims. It’s understandable how much this would have hurt the majority of Muslims. We can imagine the mental stress of a normal muslim who is being viewed strange creature by the so called do gooders.Even sikhs have been harrassed simply because they keeps beard and turbon. We can not see the Mohammed cartoons as a separate issue, rather it could be seen as the continuation of that campaigning against Islam. This and only this provoked Islamists all over the world. And as like supplying petrol to fire many newspapers republished the cartoons aggressively saying the issue of freedom of speech. But the community would have been respected if the protests were peaceful Some people would quote the comparatively mild protests towards Davinci code by Christians. But we should not forget that there is no coordinated campigining towards Christianity and this was an odd one. But be it Pardha, liberation of women, shariah ..Everything in Islam has become a subject to crticism. And when they criticize they are forgetting that all religions in the world have black histories and all of them had built up on mere faith rather than concrete proofs. I have seen no Indian newspaper supporting the war in Iraq. And the recent voting of India against Iran has been criticized highly in India. So what we need is a mind to accept others, even if they are opposing our attitudes. And we shou
The various religions were formed in the past for various reasons - people needed a god, or gods, or some saints, or messengers from heaven to move on. But they've been left to rot into a sort of plague. Islam is one of them. Christianity, Hinduism etc. are pretty much the same too. If people get too religious, it's not good at all. Belief in a god entity is not necessarily a bad thing. But believing that a way of religion (like Islam or Christianity) is the only way to reach this god entity, and anyone following a different route must be bad - is destructive. If Islam, Hinduism, Christianity etc. were mutually compatible, it'd have been less of a problem. But the various religions are not compatible. So there's going to be a power struggle between these religions. A lot of people are now seemingly attacking Islamic terrorism. But quite a few of them are using that as an excuse to directly attack Islam, in the hope that it would help popularize their religions. Eventually, one of the religions would have to dominate, crushing other religions - I wonder when that will be, perhaps in 400 years or so - if humanity still exists. Regards, Nish
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My Adnan is a representative of Muslim.Dont confuse him with Adnan Siddiqui Even If you beat your mother there would be two opinitons.Can we formulate certain rules and ask others to follow this.Definitely there would be protests. Eventhough I am not one of them ,I should say muslims are the most stressed community nowadays.Their rituals,customs,way of life and everything has been a source for criticism by others.Mainly because most of their practices might appear too much conservative to others. But the discipline of the Muslim lifestyle is unimaginable (I often wondered when my Muslim friends offer their unchallengeable daily prayers and fast without even having drop of water during Ramsan period). The silent agitation against Muslims got strong after 9/11. And we can see many instances after that the whole community being crucified on daily basis .We could have definitely seen that the campaigning against Islam terrorism has been converted against the whole Islam.Whether it is the murder of an innocent brazilian by London police or the mass visa denial to U.S for those who have muslim naims. It’s understandable how much this would have hurt the majority of Muslims. We can imagine the mental stress of a normal muslim who is being viewed strange creature by the so called do gooders.Even sikhs have been harrassed simply because they keeps beard and turbon. We can not see the Mohammed cartoons as a separate issue, rather it could be seen as the continuation of that campaigning against Islam. This and only this provoked Islamists all over the world. And as like supplying petrol to fire many newspapers republished the cartoons aggressively saying the issue of freedom of speech. But the community would have been respected if the protests were peaceful Some people would quote the comparatively mild protests towards Davinci code by Christians. But we should not forget that there is no coordinated campigining towards Christianity and this was an odd one. But be it Pardha, liberation of women, shariah ..Everything in Islam has become a subject to crticism. And when they criticize they are forgetting that all religions in the world have black histories and all of them had built up on mere faith rather than concrete proofs. I have seen no Indian newspaper supporting the war in Iraq. And the recent voting of India against Iran has been criticized highly in India. So what we need is a mind to accept others, even if they are opposing our attitudes. And we shou
jithAtran - ii wrote:
rather it could be seen as the continuation of that campaigning against Islam
Read the actual history behind both the reason for the cartoons (fear of violent reprisal for drawing images of the prophet in a children's book about Mohamed) and the fact that nobody actually got annoyed until some Swedish Imams toured the middle east, deliberately whipping up a frenzy and throwing in vastly more offensive cartoons of their own for good measure. Oh, and the history of representative art, including images of the prophet in many Islamic countries. To insult the prophet is one of the most deadly offences in Islam, but devout Muslims need to realise that the world is not composed solely of devout Muslims and will not have Sharia law imposed upon them either by threat of violence or misplaced guilt. I demand and will assert my right to comment on the theology, history and politics of any people or faith - despite how "under pressure" they may feel. You do also realise that early Islamic history is full of stories of Muslims getting outraged, crying 'oppression' and then waging war? Our actions may be playing into the hands of extremists, but we cannot suppress fundamental aspects of our societies in an attempt to appease the perpetually offended. I'm just waiting for Matt & Trey's "Mohamed and Aisha, the musical" and god forbid what would happen if we were to give apostates like Ibn Waraq and Ayan Hirsi Ali the platform they deserve. The world is getting smaller, and people need to be able to deal with having their deeply beliefs discussed by those who do not share them and potentially attacked and ridiculed. Anything goes in the marketplace of ideas, but there is no room for violence over words.
jithAtran - ii wrote:
individuality and right to hold their opinion.
This is exactly my point, you may hold any opinion you wish. Labeling it "religion" does not exempt it from criticism. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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The various religions were formed in the past for various reasons - people needed a god, or gods, or some saints, or messengers from heaven to move on. But they've been left to rot into a sort of plague. Islam is one of them. Christianity, Hinduism etc. are pretty much the same too. If people get too religious, it's not good at all. Belief in a god entity is not necessarily a bad thing. But believing that a way of religion (like Islam or Christianity) is the only way to reach this god entity, and anyone following a different route must be bad - is destructive. If Islam, Hinduism, Christianity etc. were mutually compatible, it'd have been less of a problem. But the various religions are not compatible. So there's going to be a power struggle between these religions. A lot of people are now seemingly attacking Islamic terrorism. But quite a few of them are using that as an excuse to directly attack Islam, in the hope that it would help popularize their religions. Eventually, one of the religions would have to dominate, crushing other religions - I wonder when that will be, perhaps in 400 years or so - if humanity still exists. Regards, Nish
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Belief in a god entity is not necessarily a bad thing. But believing that a way of religion (like Islam or Christianity) is the only way to reach this god entity, and anyone following a different route must be bad - is destructive.
Only if that religion advocates the destruction of those who don't adhere to it...
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The various religions were formed in the past for various reasons - people needed a god, or gods, or some saints, or messengers from heaven to move on. But they've been left to rot into a sort of plague. Islam is one of them. Christianity, Hinduism etc. are pretty much the same too. If people get too religious, it's not good at all. Belief in a god entity is not necessarily a bad thing. But believing that a way of religion (like Islam or Christianity) is the only way to reach this god entity, and anyone following a different route must be bad - is destructive. If Islam, Hinduism, Christianity etc. were mutually compatible, it'd have been less of a problem. But the various religions are not compatible. So there's going to be a power struggle between these religions. A lot of people are now seemingly attacking Islamic terrorism. But quite a few of them are using that as an excuse to directly attack Islam, in the hope that it would help popularize their religions. Eventually, one of the religions would have to dominate, crushing other religions - I wonder when that will be, perhaps in 400 years or so - if humanity still exists. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant various dialogues in various forums(offcourse not CP's soapbox) are being taken places for many years and authorites from christianity islam and judaism are keep in touch and trying to understand each other's faith and also discovering similarties between all abrahamic faith so i have no worries that these 3 mentioned religions are not compatible.I cant say similar about Hinduism because its entirely different than religions based on abrahamic faith and I think hinduism and islam is not a universal issue as such conflicts only exist between India and Pakistan only so i would rather call it a political issue rather a religious one. People like stan,espeir and kagaddy will always be ready to increase gap between two faiths no matter whatever you do.the recent attempt by Jorgen is the perfect example+espeir and kagaddy personally asked my opinion about sucide bombing but as I knew that they were jusing being naughty and they proved in latest posts.Such minorities offcourse harmful for masses but good thing is that masses ignore them as well.There will be hardly 2/3 muslim members who will be active in Soapbox.I only find A.A other than me who posts here otherwise most of the time this group of thugs is damned by people of their own side and many of them would be follower of their book as well.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
A lot of people are now seemingly attacking Islamic terrorism
No this has been happening since ages,its just media is so powerful that you have access to everything very easily via net or tv.
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My Adnan is a representative of Muslim.Dont confuse him with Adnan Siddiqui Even If you beat your mother there would be two opinitons.Can we formulate certain rules and ask others to follow this.Definitely there would be protests. Eventhough I am not one of them ,I should say muslims are the most stressed community nowadays.Their rituals,customs,way of life and everything has been a source for criticism by others.Mainly because most of their practices might appear too much conservative to others. But the discipline of the Muslim lifestyle is unimaginable (I often wondered when my Muslim friends offer their unchallengeable daily prayers and fast without even having drop of water during Ramsan period). The silent agitation against Muslims got strong after 9/11. And we can see many instances after that the whole community being crucified on daily basis .We could have definitely seen that the campaigning against Islam terrorism has been converted against the whole Islam.Whether it is the murder of an innocent brazilian by London police or the mass visa denial to U.S for those who have muslim naims. It’s understandable how much this would have hurt the majority of Muslims. We can imagine the mental stress of a normal muslim who is being viewed strange creature by the so called do gooders.Even sikhs have been harrassed simply because they keeps beard and turbon. We can not see the Mohammed cartoons as a separate issue, rather it could be seen as the continuation of that campaigning against Islam. This and only this provoked Islamists all over the world. And as like supplying petrol to fire many newspapers republished the cartoons aggressively saying the issue of freedom of speech. But the community would have been respected if the protests were peaceful Some people would quote the comparatively mild protests towards Davinci code by Christians. But we should not forget that there is no coordinated campigining towards Christianity and this was an odd one. But be it Pardha, liberation of women, shariah ..Everything in Islam has become a subject to crticism. And when they criticize they are forgetting that all religions in the world have black histories and all of them had built up on mere faith rather than concrete proofs. I have seen no Indian newspaper supporting the war in Iraq. And the recent voting of India against Iran has been criticized highly in India. So what we need is a mind to accept others, even if they are opposing our attitudes. And we shou
sorry bro you got under 2.0 votes coz you appeared pro-islam for many Islam haters here.
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Nishant various dialogues in various forums(offcourse not CP's soapbox) are being taken places for many years and authorites from christianity islam and judaism are keep in touch and trying to understand each other's faith and also discovering similarties between all abrahamic faith so i have no worries that these 3 mentioned religions are not compatible.I cant say similar about Hinduism because its entirely different than religions based on abrahamic faith and I think hinduism and islam is not a universal issue as such conflicts only exist between India and Pakistan only so i would rather call it a political issue rather a religious one. People like stan,espeir and kagaddy will always be ready to increase gap between two faiths no matter whatever you do.the recent attempt by Jorgen is the perfect example+espeir and kagaddy personally asked my opinion about sucide bombing but as I knew that they were jusing being naughty and they proved in latest posts.Such minorities offcourse harmful for masses but good thing is that masses ignore them as well.There will be hardly 2/3 muslim members who will be active in Soapbox.I only find A.A other than me who posts here otherwise most of the time this group of thugs is damned by people of their own side and many of them would be follower of their book as well.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
A lot of people are now seemingly attacking Islamic terrorism
No this has been happening since ages,its just media is so powerful that you have access to everything very easily via net or tv.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
People like stan,espeir and kagaddy will always be ready to increase gap between two faiths no matter whatever you do.
Really? I thought that's what Muslims did when they flew airplanes into the World Trade Center...then rallied behind Osama Bin Laden. Tell me...Were you of the 92% who supported him back then or of the 8% who didn't?
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My Adnan is a representative of Muslim.Dont confuse him with Adnan Siddiqui Even If you beat your mother there would be two opinitons.Can we formulate certain rules and ask others to follow this.Definitely there would be protests. Eventhough I am not one of them ,I should say muslims are the most stressed community nowadays.Their rituals,customs,way of life and everything has been a source for criticism by others.Mainly because most of their practices might appear too much conservative to others. But the discipline of the Muslim lifestyle is unimaginable (I often wondered when my Muslim friends offer their unchallengeable daily prayers and fast without even having drop of water during Ramsan period). The silent agitation against Muslims got strong after 9/11. And we can see many instances after that the whole community being crucified on daily basis .We could have definitely seen that the campaigning against Islam terrorism has been converted against the whole Islam.Whether it is the murder of an innocent brazilian by London police or the mass visa denial to U.S for those who have muslim naims. It’s understandable how much this would have hurt the majority of Muslims. We can imagine the mental stress of a normal muslim who is being viewed strange creature by the so called do gooders.Even sikhs have been harrassed simply because they keeps beard and turbon. We can not see the Mohammed cartoons as a separate issue, rather it could be seen as the continuation of that campaigning against Islam. This and only this provoked Islamists all over the world. And as like supplying petrol to fire many newspapers republished the cartoons aggressively saying the issue of freedom of speech. But the community would have been respected if the protests were peaceful Some people would quote the comparatively mild protests towards Davinci code by Christians. But we should not forget that there is no coordinated campigining towards Christianity and this was an odd one. But be it Pardha, liberation of women, shariah ..Everything in Islam has become a subject to crticism. And when they criticize they are forgetting that all religions in the world have black histories and all of them had built up on mere faith rather than concrete proofs. I have seen no Indian newspaper supporting the war in Iraq. And the recent voting of India against Iran has been criticized highly in India. So what we need is a mind to accept others, even if they are opposing our attitudes. And we shou
Why is so much of the soapbox conversation so centered around Adnan? Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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sorry bro you got under 2.0 votes coz you appeared pro-islam for many Islam haters here.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
sorry bro
Is that common slang now in Pakistan? Or do you using such terms due to exposure on the internet? Not trolling, I'm just courious. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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sorry bro you got under 2.0 votes coz you appeared pro-islam for many Islam haters here.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you got under 2.0 votes coz you appeared pro-islam for many Islam haters here.
Oh you poor persecuted muslims. :(( Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
People like stan,espeir and kagaddy will always be ready to increase gap between two faiths no matter whatever you do.
Really? I thought that's what Muslims did when they flew airplanes into the World Trade Center...then rallied behind Osama Bin Laden. Tell me...Were you of the 92% who supported him back then or of the 8% who didn't?
Not only muslims ..Many people became happy since they dont like the polocies of america.And anyone can undderstand the heroism attained by osama or saddam since they are figthing against the mighty USA. Nobody realizing the fact that Islamic terrorism is only growing and if USA stand in forefornt it would never come to an end.Becoz USA is not an Islamic state and their fight would be viwed as fight against Islam and Bin Laden is cleverly adorning the attire of the saviour of Islam. If not Osama there would be some X or Y becoz the world is full of those creatures who has belief in none. if we truely wants to put a fullstop to Islamic terrorism ,the fight agaist it should be started by Islams .
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Nishant various dialogues in various forums(offcourse not CP's soapbox) are being taken places for many years and authorites from christianity islam and judaism are keep in touch and trying to understand each other's faith and also discovering similarties between all abrahamic faith so i have no worries that these 3 mentioned religions are not compatible.I cant say similar about Hinduism because its entirely different than religions based on abrahamic faith and I think hinduism and islam is not a universal issue as such conflicts only exist between India and Pakistan only so i would rather call it a political issue rather a religious one. People like stan,espeir and kagaddy will always be ready to increase gap between two faiths no matter whatever you do.the recent attempt by Jorgen is the perfect example+espeir and kagaddy personally asked my opinion about sucide bombing but as I knew that they were jusing being naughty and they proved in latest posts.Such minorities offcourse harmful for masses but good thing is that masses ignore them as well.There will be hardly 2/3 muslim members who will be active in Soapbox.I only find A.A other than me who posts here otherwise most of the time this group of thugs is damned by people of their own side and many of them would be follower of their book as well.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
A lot of people are now seemingly attacking Islamic terrorism
No this has been happening since ages,its just media is so powerful that you have access to everything very easily via net or tv.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
People like stan,espeir and kagaddy will always be ready to increase gap between two faiths no matter whatever you do.
Speaking for myself, this is not true. Before 911, I didn't know or care anything about Islam. I really don't care what you people do. You could worship bullfrogs for all I care. But when you start flying planes into buildings and yelling "god is great" I, and many others took notice of your religion. So, I fyou want to stop the divide between the religions, try and get you fellow musliums that do believe in killing to stop. When this happens I would have no problem with islam. There are some muslims who are against terrorists, they fight in the US army and Iraqi armies (and I'm sure there are others), so I know there are some. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
People like stan,espeir and kagaddy will always be ready to increase gap between two faiths no matter whatever you do.
Really? I thought that's what Muslims did when they flew airplanes into the World Trade Center...then rallied behind Osama Bin Laden. Tell me...Were you of the 92% who supported him back then or of the 8% who didn't?
Sigh! First take a :rose: then a sincere advise for you.Go outside and take a deep breathe and then take a cold glass of water.It will make you feel better.Too much bitterness and haterd have made you a cynical.
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Why is so much of the soapbox conversation so centered around Adnan? Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Why is so much of the soapbox conversation so centered around Adnan?
Adnan's probably the most popular guy in the Soapbox. Regards, Nish
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Sigh! First take a :rose: then a sincere advise for you.Go outside and take a deep breathe and then take a cold glass of water.It will make you feel better.Too much bitterness and haterd have made you a cynical.
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Bitterness??? You're justifying the actions of people who kill thousands of innocents! Now you're upset that America got sick of the Middle East's BS and is now mopping the floor with your butts! Get over it. You guys already lost. We're just cleaning up before we turn off the lights and go home.
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Not only muslims ..Many people became happy since they dont like the polocies of america.And anyone can undderstand the heroism attained by osama or saddam since they are figthing against the mighty USA. Nobody realizing the fact that Islamic terrorism is only growing and if USA stand in forefornt it would never come to an end.Becoz USA is not an Islamic state and their fight would be viwed as fight against Islam and Bin Laden is cleverly adorning the attire of the saviour of Islam. If not Osama there would be some X or Y becoz the world is full of those creatures who has belief in none. if we truely wants to put a fullstop to Islamic terrorism ,the fight agaist it should be started by Islams .
jithAtran - ii wrote:
Not only muslims ..Many people became happy since they dont like the polocies of america.And anyone can undderstand the heroism attained by osama or saddam since they are figthing against the mighty USA.
What policies?
jithAtran - ii wrote:
Nobody realizing the fact that Islamic terrorism is only growing and if USA stand in forefornt it would never come to an end.
So, the acts in India, Bali, London, Madrid, and the ones just caught in Canada, is because of USA?
jithAtran - ii wrote:
if we truely wants to put a fullstop to Islamic terrorism ,the fight agaist it should be started by Islams .
I welcome Islam to stop terrorism. Well....Islam? Adnan? Anybody? crickets............. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Not only muslims ..Many people became happy since they dont like the polocies of america.And anyone can undderstand the heroism attained by osama or saddam since they are figthing against the mighty USA. Nobody realizing the fact that Islamic terrorism is only growing and if USA stand in forefornt it would never come to an end.Becoz USA is not an Islamic state and their fight would be viwed as fight against Islam and Bin Laden is cleverly adorning the attire of the saviour of Islam. If not Osama there would be some X or Y becoz the world is full of those creatures who has belief in none. if we truely wants to put a fullstop to Islamic terrorism ,the fight agaist it should be started by Islams .
jithAtran - ii wrote:
Many people became happy since they dont like the polocies of america.
We call those people "enemies" and we bomb the crap out of them for attacking us. Then they cry and say, "Oh look! America bombed us when all we did was wage war on them! Boo hoo!"
jithAtran - ii wrote:
And anyone can undderstand the heroism attained by osama or saddam since they are figthing against the mighty USA.
No, only screw-ups like you can understand that. It's comforting to know that we have such a capable military. :cool:
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The various religions were formed in the past for various reasons - people needed a god, or gods, or some saints, or messengers from heaven to move on. But they've been left to rot into a sort of plague. Islam is one of them. Christianity, Hinduism etc. are pretty much the same too. If people get too religious, it's not good at all. Belief in a god entity is not necessarily a bad thing. But believing that a way of religion (like Islam or Christianity) is the only way to reach this god entity, and anyone following a different route must be bad - is destructive. If Islam, Hinduism, Christianity etc. were mutually compatible, it'd have been less of a problem. But the various religions are not compatible. So there's going to be a power struggle between these religions. A lot of people are now seemingly attacking Islamic terrorism. But quite a few of them are using that as an excuse to directly attack Islam, in the hope that it would help popularize their religions. Eventually, one of the religions would have to dominate, crushing other religions - I wonder when that will be, perhaps in 400 years or so - if humanity still exists. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)That's largely based on the assumption that there is no God. If there is no God, then to an outsider, it seems that religion is harmless so long as it's a open to all new ideas, tolerant of everything and everyone, adhering to the "all paths lead to the same mountain" kind of thinking. I hear that a lot: "your belief, Judah, is harmless so long as you're not hurting anyone". Look at it from the other perspective for a moment. If there is a God, then not everyone or everything should be tolerated, assuming good and evil exist. This sounds nasty and evil, but in practice it's logical and required. For one, we can all agree that killing another human for no reason at all is evil and shouldn't be tolerated. If some acts are evil, then not all paths lead to the same mountain. If some of the paths -- ways of living your life -- be that religion or just plain ethics, lead to an evil way of live, a way of life that is not God-honoring, then we can't say that all ways are acceptable. This is what I am concerned about most. Those who just do whatever's right in their own eyes live a life free to do whatever they please. Sounds good, right? I tried living that way for awhile. But where did it get me? Pornography, insatiable lusting, all lust no love, in the sex department. That's a dark, downward spiral for anybody. Doing whatever's right in your own eyes is flexible; you can have your own personal rules; for instance, be kind to others. But your own rules you're of course free to bend and break anytime you want without consequence. What I'm saying is this: without God (and I don't mean in a religious way, but in a personal relationship way), free living is hardly free; instead you become slaves to addictions that you can ruin your life with. What I've found out through all this is that the real free living is found by living a Godly life, not by following the whims of your personal wants and desires. The real free life, ironically, is the servant life, living for God and living for other instead of yourself. Nish, I hope that is something you'll find out in your life. Now, you're right about all this painful bashing of other religions. You know what, I can't speak for everybody here, since we all come from different backgrounds. I know for those believing that Jesus is the Messiah, those folks saying all these nasty things about Islam, they're not following Jesus too closely. Jesus said that of all of our Scripture, of everything written in the Jewish Law, the whole point of all of it, boils down to 2 things: love God, a
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The second popular would probably be espeir Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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The second popular would probably be espeir
Yeah, those two - they make a good pair :-) Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)