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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
I would broadly tend to agree, but there are some issues: 1 - in theory, making something legal means that society approves of people taking it 2 - when you have public health, allowing people to abuse themselves costs everyone money. This is the main reason tobacco should be outlawed, although it may as well be, the amount the government spends on making it hard to smoke and easy to stop. 3 - the reason tobacco and alcohol are legal is simply that they are too entrenched and make the govt too much money for them to be done away with. LSD was legal for a while, for example. The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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I would broadly tend to agree, but there are some issues: 1 - in theory, making something legal means that society approves of people taking it 2 - when you have public health, allowing people to abuse themselves costs everyone money. This is the main reason tobacco should be outlawed, although it may as well be, the amount the government spends on making it hard to smoke and easy to stop. 3 - the reason tobacco and alcohol are legal is simply that they are too entrenched and make the govt too much money for them to be done away with. LSD was legal for a while, for example. The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit.
Not to mention the stuff people do when under the influence of drugs. With alcohol, you can be drunk, moderately drunk, and you can be really drunk. With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs. Regards, Nish
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Christian Graus wrote:
The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit.
Not to mention the stuff people do when under the influence of drugs. With alcohol, you can be drunk, moderately drunk, and you can be really drunk. With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Depends on the drug. I'd rather face a guy on dope than a guy who has been drinking, in a fight. Alcohol can induce more rage than a lot of drugs I can think of. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Christian Graus wrote:
The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit.
Not to mention the stuff people do when under the influence of drugs. With alcohol, you can be drunk, moderately drunk, and you can be really drunk. With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs.
You clearly have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about in this case, Nish.
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs.
You clearly have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about in this case, Nish.
Jim A. Johnson wrote:
Nishant Sivakumar wrote: With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs. You clearly have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about in this case, Nish.
I have to agree with Jim. Besides, saying "there's no "light" effect with drugs" defies logic (e.g. obviously the caffeine from one cup of coffee != five cups of coffee) Don't believe all of the anti-drug propaganda... :suss:
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Depends on the drug. I'd rather face a guy on dope than a guy who has been drinking, in a fight. Alcohol can induce more rage than a lot of drugs I can think of. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Christian Graus wrote:
The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit.
Not to mention the stuff people do when under the influence of drugs. With alcohol, you can be drunk, moderately drunk, and you can be really drunk. With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs.
Wow... :~ Uh, i can sell you a good pill cutter if you've been having problems getting the dosage right.
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Anything that makes you slur words, stumble, pass out, vommit, halucinate, or slow your reflexes probably it's not the best thing for ya.... That's why it's illegal...that's why. "C++ will solve any problem."
#hackC++ wrote:
Anything that makes you slur words, stumble, pass out, vommit, halucinate, and slow your reflexes probably it's not the best thing for ya....
Damn carbon monoxide junkies...
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
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Christian Graus wrote:
Alcohol can induce more rage than a lot of drugs I can think of.
PCP comes to mind quickly. The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
'A lot' and 'all' are very different things. I was just pointing out that not all drugs turn people into psychopaths, and that alcohol, a widely used drug, can create rage in some people. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
why are they really against the law?
Same reason David Copperfield uses beautiful young women in his shows - to create a distraction. It'd be a real shame if people stopped asking why we aren't building prisons fast enough to hold all the tweekers, and started asking why so many people want to get high...
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Christian Graus wrote:
The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit.
Not to mention the stuff people do when under the influence of drugs. With alcohol, you can be drunk, moderately drunk, and you can be really drunk. With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state
I had a friend who took a drug once. He had a dangerous case of munchies and kept going dangerously philosophical on me.
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Anything that makes you slur words, stumble, pass out, vommit, halucinate, or slow your reflexes probably it's not the best thing for ya.... That's why it's illegal...that's why. "C++ will solve any problem."
#hackC++ wrote:
Anything that makes you slur words, stumble, pass out, vommit, halucinate, or slow your reflexes probably it's not the best thing for ya....
Damn human aging process.....
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
t's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else?
Funny, could say the same thing about gays and gay marriage. You won't though, of course.
Wjousts wrote:
Funny, could say the same thing about gays and gay marriage. You won't though, of course.
Give him time. Young Jeremy is developing into a real libertarian lately.
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Who cares of a drughead kills themselve
Their family. Steve
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
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Anything that makes you slur words, stumble, pass out, vommit, halucinate, or slow your reflexes probably it's not the best thing for ya.... That's why it's illegal...that's why. "C++ will solve any problem."
Damn pregnant women.
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
Totally agreed. The amount of wasted tax money chasing, arresting and locking up people who are committing victimless crimes (an adult who purchases a product without duress is in no way a victim) is pretty damn terrifying. The black market created through the narcotics trade also helps to fund an underclass - whole areas of large cities are dependent on the black market, often brutalising and alienating those who grow up in them. The argument that keeping them illegal sends out the correct message - that society disapproves of it is pretty poor, given the sheer numbers involved in the casual use of narcotics. I no longer use illicit drugs (except for Salvia Divinorum, very occasionally), I simply don't enjoy the lifestyle any more. Good scotch, decent beer and cigarettes(unfortunately) are another matter :) Ryan
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