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  • B brianwelsch

    The divine Trinity - "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" - could also be known as "Mother, Child and Womb" or "Rock, Redeemer, Friend" at some Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) services under an action yesterday by the church's national assembly... One reason is that language limited to the Father and Son "has been used to support the idea that God is male and that men are superior to women," the panel said.

    :doh: God goes PC. http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uspres204789343jun20,0,3989803.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-print[^] BW


    If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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    :doh: Ya gotta love it when religious jargon changes due to politics. :rolleyes: "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." - Martin Mull

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    • B brianwelsch

      The divine Trinity - "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" - could also be known as "Mother, Child and Womb" or "Rock, Redeemer, Friend" at some Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) services under an action yesterday by the church's national assembly... One reason is that language limited to the Father and Son "has been used to support the idea that God is male and that men are superior to women," the panel said.

      :doh: God goes PC. http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uspres204789343jun20,0,3989803.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-print[^] BW


      If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
      -- Steven Wright

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      men are superior to women Nunc est bibendum

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        :doh: Ya gotta love it when religious jargon changes due to politics. :rolleyes: "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." - Martin Mull

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        I saw someone suggest "Rock, Paper, Scissors" on one forum. :laugh: BW


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        • B brianwelsch

          I saw someone suggest "Rock, Paper, Scissors" on one forum. :laugh: BW


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          That's exactly what I thought when I read that.

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            men are superior to women Nunc est bibendum

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            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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            Can I be the first to say "BOLLOCKS"!? ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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            • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

              Can I be the first to say "BOLLOCKS"!? ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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              Shog9 0
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              Not anymore... :~

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              • B brianwelsch

                The divine Trinity - "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" - could also be known as "Mother, Child and Womb" or "Rock, Redeemer, Friend" at some Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) services under an action yesterday by the church's national assembly... One reason is that language limited to the Father and Son "has been used to support the idea that God is male and that men are superior to women," the panel said.

                :doh: God goes PC. http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uspres204789343jun20,0,3989803.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-print[^] BW


                If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
                -- Steven Wright

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                Daniel Ferguson
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                brianwelsch quoted:

                God is male and that men are superior to women

                Changing the language isn't going to change the underlying reality. This is actually one of the things I dislike about religion: it tries to say that men were created first and that men are the creator (in the image of god) when it's perfectly obvious to anyone born from a woman that it's the other freakin' way around.

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                • B brianwelsch

                  The divine Trinity - "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" - could also be known as "Mother, Child and Womb" or "Rock, Redeemer, Friend" at some Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) services under an action yesterday by the church's national assembly... One reason is that language limited to the Father and Son "has been used to support the idea that God is male and that men are superior to women," the panel said.

                  :doh: God goes PC. http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uspres204789343jun20,0,3989803.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-print[^] BW


                  If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
                  -- Steven Wright

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                  Fortunately, this sort of thing makes it really easy to recognize preachers who are full of shit, without having to bother sitting through an entire sermon.

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                  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                    Can I be the first to say "BOLLOCKS"!? ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                    its true. men are physically superior, they also push the envelope further than women. Allmost all of the great explorers have been male for example. Same goes for artists, writers, chefs, etc etc etc. OK there are exceptional women, but for the most part, a woman is happy with the status quo, just wants to do the same thing. Men however are quickly dissatisfied, and want to see and know more. Nunc est bibendum

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                      its true. men are physically superior, they also push the envelope further than women. Allmost all of the great explorers have been male for example. Same goes for artists, writers, chefs, etc etc etc. OK there are exceptional women, but for the most part, a woman is happy with the status quo, just wants to do the same thing. Men however are quickly dissatisfied, and want to see and know more. Nunc est bibendum

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                      Yes....But women are better at crying.

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                        brianwelsch quoted:

                        God is male and that men are superior to women

                        Changing the language isn't going to change the underlying reality. This is actually one of the things I dislike about religion: it tries to say that men were created first and that men are the creator (in the image of god) when it's perfectly obvious to anyone born from a woman that it's the other freakin' way around.

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                        Daniel R Ferguson wrote:

                        Changing the language isn't going to change the underlying reality.

                        And yet, look at all the posts here arguing semantics when it comes to war, politics, immigration, marriage...

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                          Daniel R Ferguson wrote:

                          Changing the language isn't going to change the underlying reality.

                          And yet, look at all the posts here arguing semantics when it comes to war, politics, immigration, marriage...

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                          Daniel Ferguson
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                          Shog9 wrote:

                          And yet, look at all the posts here arguing semantics when it comes to war, politics, immigration, marriage...

                          That's a good point. For example, someone suggested "civil union" instead of "gay marriage", but it doesn't change the underlying reality that two people of the same sex are living together. And who cares anyway?

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                            Daniel R Ferguson wrote:

                            Changing the language isn't going to change the underlying reality.

                            And yet, look at all the posts here arguing semantics when it comes to war, politics, immigration, marriage...

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                            At least at the big box stores they don't have spades anymore, they have digging shovels and scooping shovels. :doh:


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                            • B brianwelsch

                              The divine Trinity - "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" - could also be known as "Mother, Child and Womb" or "Rock, Redeemer, Friend" at some Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) services under an action yesterday by the church's national assembly... One reason is that language limited to the Father and Son "has been used to support the idea that God is male and that men are superior to women," the panel said.

                              :doh: God goes PC. http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uspres204789343jun20,0,3989803.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-print[^] BW


                              If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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                              brianwelsch wrote:

                              "Rock, Redeemer, Friend"

                              For some strange reason the movie Doom popped into my head when I first read that, except that the Redeemer is in Unreal Tournament. The brain is a pretty neat thing, although a little buggy at times... :)


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                                its true. men are physically superior, they also push the envelope further than women. Allmost all of the great explorers have been male for example. Same goes for artists, writers, chefs, etc etc etc. OK there are exceptional women, but for the most part, a woman is happy with the status quo, just wants to do the same thing. Men however are quickly dissatisfied, and want to see and know more. Nunc est bibendum

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                                How about the idea that the reason most of the worlds "advances" are performed my men is that, with the preconception that they are superior to women, they have deliberately suppressed any woman who dares to impose on male superiority? There are many instances, some of which recorded, where any development, particularily intellectually, by a female has been completely disregarded by their male "superiours".

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                                  How about the idea that the reason most of the worlds "advances" are performed my men is that, with the preconception that they are superior to women, they have deliberately suppressed any woman who dares to impose on male superiority? There are many instances, some of which recorded, where any development, particularily intellectually, by a female has been completely disregarded by their male "superiours".

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                                  Womens' lib is a century old. Where are all these advancements you're talking about!

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                                    Fortunately, this sort of thing makes it really easy to recognize preachers who are full of shit, without having to bother sitting through an entire sermon.

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                                    Rob Graham
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                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    really easy to recognize preachers who are full of sh*t,

                                    You've actually encountered some that aren't?:omg:

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                                      How about the idea that the reason most of the worlds "advances" are performed my men is that, with the preconception that they are superior to women, they have deliberately suppressed any woman who dares to impose on male superiority? There are many instances, some of which recorded, where any development, particularily intellectually, by a female has been completely disregarded by their male "superiours".

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                                      I wanted to say exactly that. People only look at the surface of things, and come up with the stupid conclusions above. You got my 5. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson

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                                        men are superior to women Nunc est bibendum

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                                        We let you poor fragile creatures think so ;P The tigress is here :-D

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                                          Womens' lib is a century old. Where are all these advancements you're talking about!

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                                          You're alive aren't you? But no, seriously, that is part of my point. The women's liberation appears to me to be just an attempt to pacify those that are not happy with the distribution of credit. I shall not, however, start quoting and referring. To do so would put me in a more awkward position than I would want. I have known a number of women who are more than capable than their male "conterparts" - if I may use such a term. We all hear about women being passed over for promotion in business. It's easy for us (men) to just ignore this and say they are playing the sexism card - but it still happens. Anyway, I only have half a chomosone on the twenty-third pair, so what do I know :)

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