Prroof Needed.Urgently
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" This statement is 'false'. " Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
Well, as well you can downcast it to "This statement is 0" Hehe. Sorry, just dunno what I'm talking about :) Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!
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Well, as well you can downcast it to "This statement is 0" Hehe. Sorry, just dunno what I'm talking about :) Philip Patrick Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer Need Web-based database administrator? You already have it!
Philip Patrick wrote: Hehe. Sorry, just dunno what I'm talking about I also don't know what you are talking about, so don't feel alone. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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" This statement is 'false'. " Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
Is that 100% proof alcohol? Looking at what was written, If the statement is false, then it is lying. If its lying, then its not false, its true. If its true then its false. Simple really. ;P Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 If I'm not breathing, I'm either dead or holding my breath. A fool jabbers, while a wise man listens. But is he so wise to listen to the fool?
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" This statement is 'false'. " Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: " This statement is 'false'. " Of course you got to use the fuzzy logic with that one. ;) Let me try, from the top of my head: Given that q is true and p is false the statement can be described as follows:
q=p
Since true is not false we can replace q as:
q=1-p
Resolve it for p you get:
1-p=p
1=2p
1/2=pWhich gives a nice, round value of 0.5
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L wrote: **It's more or less false, but not entirely. I'm not sure about that. What part of it is True ? And which part is False ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"**
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Is that 100% proof alcohol? Looking at what was written, If the statement is false, then it is lying. If its lying, then its not false, its true. If its true then its false. Simple really. ;P Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 If I'm not breathing, I'm either dead or holding my breath. A fool jabbers, while a wise man listens. But is he so wise to listen to the fool?
Roger Allen wrote: If the statement is false, then it is lying. If its lying, then its not false, its true. If its true then its false. Simple really. Thank you, :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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****Colin Davies wrote: " This statement is 'false'. " Of course you got to use the fuzzy logic with that one. ;) Let me try, from the top of my head: Given that q is true and p is false the statement can be described as follows:
q=p
Since true is not false we can replace q as:
q=1-p
Resolve it for p you get:
1-p=p
1=2p
1/2=pWhich gives a nice, round value of 0.5
George wrote: Of course you got to use the fuzzy logic with that one. Yes of course. so 1/2 = p means the statement is 50% false and 60% true ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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George wrote: Of course you got to use the fuzzy logic with that one. Yes of course. so 1/2 = p means the statement is 50% false and 60% true ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: so 1/2 = p means the statement is 50% false and 60% true ? I will take that the 60% was meant to be 50%. Then yes, if ask "is that sentence true" the answer is 0.5 (using the percent is not really feasible because it's not making the equations nicely, typically in fuzzy logic the values are in the range 0 to 1). If you asked whether the sentence is false the answer would be also 0.5. Kindly note the technicality that it's redundant to mention the true and false in the same sentence, because of the true=1-false. It's enought to say that it's either 0.5 true or 0.5 false. It's interesting how the paradox is vanishing when fuzzy logic is applied to it. ;)
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****Colin Davies wrote: so 1/2 = p means the statement is 50% false and 60% true ? I will take that the 60% was meant to be 50%. Then yes, if ask "is that sentence true" the answer is 0.5 (using the percent is not really feasible because it's not making the equations nicely, typically in fuzzy logic the values are in the range 0 to 1). If you asked whether the sentence is false the answer would be also 0.5. Kindly note the technicality that it's redundant to mention the true and false in the same sentence, because of the true=1-false. It's enought to say that it's either 0.5 true or 0.5 false. It's interesting how the paradox is vanishing when fuzzy logic is applied to it. ;)
George wrote: I will take that the 60% was meant to be 50%. No, it was a test to see if you were paying attention :-) George wrote: It's interesting how the paradox is vanishing when fuzzy logic is applied to it. Possibly I had better study up on Fuzzy Logic before making any further comment, as I'm a little confused. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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If you are truthful this statement is false since it states it is false. If you always lie, then the statment is false since you lie. Since people are not truthful or invariable liars, then this is at the best indeterminate.
All these different responses have confused me ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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George wrote: I will take that the 60% was meant to be 50%. No, it was a test to see if you were paying attention :-) George wrote: It's interesting how the paradox is vanishing when fuzzy logic is applied to it. Possibly I had better study up on Fuzzy Logic before making any further comment, as I'm a little confused. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: Possibly I had better study up on Fuzzy Logic before making any further comment, as I'm a little confused. Actually it's a fascinating topic, but the more you get into it the more it gets loaded with complex math equations, specially if you also drift away with the chaos theory. Which you will because you will want to draw one of them fractals sooner or later ;) However, the basic principle is very simple - you just take that the logical values are in the range 0 to 1. You can still use all the equations and rules of the classical, boolean logic. Actually you can get interesting results if you try to use your sentence equation and iterate it. For example:
p(2)=1-p(1)
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p(n+1)=1-p(n)And then, using a different values in the range 0 - 1 observe how the values are oscilating...