California Salaries
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I was doing some research yesterday on dice.com. A C++, MFC search in California yielded about 70 postings for the past THIRTY days. Remember seeing a few hundreds in the dot com(good old?) days. The salaries are just passable for California. Eg. $75 k max for 5+ years experience, in Torrance. (whoosh a decent single bedroom apt there cost $1500 a month) Is programming losing its sheen as far as making money is concerned?
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I was doing some research yesterday on dice.com. A C++, MFC search in California yielded about 70 postings for the past THIRTY days. Remember seeing a few hundreds in the dot com(good old?) days. The salaries are just passable for California. Eg. $75 k max for 5+ years experience, in Torrance. (whoosh a decent single bedroom apt there cost $1500 a month) Is programming losing its sheen as far as making money is concerned?
Satheesh wrote: Is programming losing its sheen as far as making money is concerned? Unsure about the salaried world. I think the days of fast bucks have gone. In the 70's so many guys were making absolute fiancial killings writing game code. Anyone now can write a reasonable game, so there is in someways an oversupply of coders and technology. In all probability some coder will make mega-bucks writing the next Killer-App. ( Please someone tell me what it'll be ) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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Satheesh wrote: Is programming losing its sheen as far as making money is concerned? Unsure about the salaried world. I think the days of fast bucks have gone. In the 70's so many guys were making absolute fiancial killings writing game code. Anyone now can write a reasonable game, so there is in someways an oversupply of coders and technology. In all probability some coder will make mega-bucks writing the next Killer-App. ( Please someone tell me what it'll be ) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: In all probability some coder will make mega-bucks writing the next Killer-App. I'm not sure why people still believe this. Last two killer apps I can remember: 1. Netscape. Now a pile of rubbish - original owners briefly rich on paper, but in reality probably working for wages now, same as me. 2. Napster. Never actually worth money, poorly written, obvious idea in retrospect, and sued out of existence. Original owner probably working at Burger King right now. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002
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****Colin Davies wrote: In all probability some coder will make mega-bucks writing the next Killer-App. I'm not sure why people still believe this. Last two killer apps I can remember: 1. Netscape. Now a pile of rubbish - original owners briefly rich on paper, but in reality probably working for wages now, same as me. 2. Napster. Never actually worth money, poorly written, obvious idea in retrospect, and sued out of existence. Original owner probably working at Burger King right now. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002
You are correct about the two examples you gave. Although if the two original devs are working at Burger King, it is more due to poor Financial Planning than the ideas being crushed. However I don't personally know anyone since 86 has made incredible cash out of a new development project. So maybe it has stopped happening now for individuals. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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You are correct about the two examples you gave. Although if the two original devs are working at Burger King, it is more due to poor Financial Planning than the ideas being crushed. However I don't personally know anyone since 86 has made incredible cash out of a new development project. So maybe it has stopped happening now for individuals. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: Although if the two original devs are working at Burger King, it is more due to poor Financial Planning than the ideas being crushed. I meant only the napster guy - the netscape guy should have a few $$$, although I doubt he still drives a Ferrarri. ****Colin Davies wrote: However I don't personally know anyone since 86 has made incredible cash out of a new development project. So maybe it has stopped happening now for individuals. The lesson from Netscape is that if you show there's a new area to make a *LOT* of money, Microsoft will throw all their resources into crushing you, even if it doesn't make them money to do so. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002
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****Colin Davies wrote: Although if the two original devs are working at Burger King, it is more due to poor Financial Planning than the ideas being crushed. I meant only the napster guy - the netscape guy should have a few $$$, although I doubt he still drives a Ferrarri. ****Colin Davies wrote: However I don't personally know anyone since 86 has made incredible cash out of a new development project. So maybe it has stopped happening now for individuals. The lesson from Netscape is that if you show there's a new area to make a *LOT* of money, Microsoft will throw all their resources into crushing you, even if it doesn't make them money to do so. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002
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Satheesh wrote: Is programming losing its sheen as far as making money is concerned? Unsure about the salaried world. I think the days of fast bucks have gone. In the 70's so many guys were making absolute fiancial killings writing game code. Anyone now can write a reasonable game, so there is in someways an oversupply of coders and technology. In all probability some coder will make mega-bucks writing the next Killer-App. ( Please someone tell me what it'll be ) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"