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Actually, in some states, it's against the law for a *felon* to wear a bullet-proof vest. What's really absurd is that the're trying to get a convicted felon to obey the law even after he's shown a willingness (and propensity) not to do so (otherwise, he wouldn't be a felon, and wouldn't be subject to that particular law). "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: What's really absurd is that the're trying to get a convicted felon to obey the law But the point is the felon uses it in the execution of a new crime he has multiple charges against him and more of a potential penalty. Just like in most states it is illegal to break out of jail. To do so then extends your time. I actually enjoy reading about stupid laws. I think this deserves a new thread. To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli
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Daniel Ferguson wrote: It's fairly typical for them to think they are the only country on the planet. I'm having a hard time figuring out why we have this stereotype. In 5th grade I had to memorize the name and capital of every country in Europe, Africa, and Asia, in 6th grade that was extended to North America and South America, plus the provinces of Canada with their respective capitals. I'll be damned if I can remember them all off the top of my head, but nothing quick refreshers wouldn't fix :) James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
James T. Johnson wrote: I'm having a hard time figuring out why we have this stereotype. I've worked with some friendly Amuricans, and I realize that many of you are not a**holes, but some of the most vocal ones are -- the squeaky wheel in action. That, and your foreign policy is horrible. I'll never forget one occasion when a friend was denied at the Canada/US border. My friend was told she wasn't qualified for a job in the US that she had already been accepted for. The border agent was an ugly bitter little man, and the woman who took our toll payment slammed the window open with her elbow and glared at him and shouted that her booth was closed. He obviously hadn't realized it (momentary pause), but to save face he said he had known. Back on the Canadian side, we explained our situation, and they just said, "They're like that. There is nothing we can do." My friends and I were pissed. :mad: Add in the softwood lumber and steel tarrifs, NAFTA (which is an acronym for "You dropped your soap"), the situation in the middle east (Iraq, Afganistan, etc), and the countless other instances of the US meddling in the affairs of other countries. Do you understand the stereotype now? Now, after all this, don't think I dislike you, or any other Amuricuns personally because I realize that you didn't have a part in these events, but some of your countrymen are real assholes. "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
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James T. Johnson wrote: I'm having a hard time figuring out why we have this stereotype. I've worked with some friendly Amuricans, and I realize that many of you are not a**holes, but some of the most vocal ones are -- the squeaky wheel in action. That, and your foreign policy is horrible. I'll never forget one occasion when a friend was denied at the Canada/US border. My friend was told she wasn't qualified for a job in the US that she had already been accepted for. The border agent was an ugly bitter little man, and the woman who took our toll payment slammed the window open with her elbow and glared at him and shouted that her booth was closed. He obviously hadn't realized it (momentary pause), but to save face he said he had known. Back on the Canadian side, we explained our situation, and they just said, "They're like that. There is nothing we can do." My friends and I were pissed. :mad: Add in the softwood lumber and steel tarrifs, NAFTA (which is an acronym for "You dropped your soap"), the situation in the middle east (Iraq, Afganistan, etc), and the countless other instances of the US meddling in the affairs of other countries. Do you understand the stereotype now? Now, after all this, don't think I dislike you, or any other Amuricuns personally because I realize that you didn't have a part in these events, but some of your countrymen are real assholes. "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
Re: the border problem you had I've already commented on what I feel about stupid people in power, refer to my posts about "wand rape". Daniel Ferguson wrote: countless other instances of the US meddling in the affairs of other countries The US can't win here. If we try to stay out we get bashed for not caring; if we go in we're "meddling." Daniel Ferguson wrote: Now, after all this, don't think I dislike you, or any other Amuricuns personally Ditto :) James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
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James T. Johnson wrote: I'm having a hard time figuring out why we have this stereotype. I've worked with some friendly Amuricans, and I realize that many of you are not a**holes, but some of the most vocal ones are -- the squeaky wheel in action. That, and your foreign policy is horrible. I'll never forget one occasion when a friend was denied at the Canada/US border. My friend was told she wasn't qualified for a job in the US that she had already been accepted for. The border agent was an ugly bitter little man, and the woman who took our toll payment slammed the window open with her elbow and glared at him and shouted that her booth was closed. He obviously hadn't realized it (momentary pause), but to save face he said he had known. Back on the Canadian side, we explained our situation, and they just said, "They're like that. There is nothing we can do." My friends and I were pissed. :mad: Add in the softwood lumber and steel tarrifs, NAFTA (which is an acronym for "You dropped your soap"), the situation in the middle east (Iraq, Afganistan, etc), and the countless other instances of the US meddling in the affairs of other countries. Do you understand the stereotype now? Now, after all this, don't think I dislike you, or any other Amuricuns personally because I realize that you didn't have a part in these events, but some of your countrymen are real assholes. "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
> That, and your foreign policy is horrible. It's easy to claim that when you're watching stuff happen from the outside. I always had it figured that if we weren't in a shooting war, our foreign poilicy must be a bit of okay. Nowadays, it saeems like there is nothing we can do to avoid being seen as the bad guy, but the minute we threw our hands up and just let the rest of the world be what it wants to be, that's when we'd be seen as - ummm - the bad guy - again. Make up your fuckin minds. > I'll never forget one occasion when a friend > was denied at the Canada/US border. And on this is what you base your criticism of our foreign policy on? I'm sure we haven't heard the whole story here. > NAFTA Hey, a lot of Americans didn't want immigrants from Canbada or Mexico driving our freeways any more than you like the deal. Americans got screwed on that too. > the situation in the middle east You're blaming a holy war on us? They've been bickering and killing each other LONG before we got involved. As far as a lot of Americans are concerned, we should just toss in some really cool weapons, close the gate, and wait for the dust to settle. Meddling? I think you're just envious because the Canadian government doesn't appear to have any fucking backbone of their own, so they let the U.S. go stoimping through the muck and mire, and if the outcome is good, then wowsers, the Canadians are behind us 110%. The minute things turn to shit, the Canadians are hiding under their kilts, point south and screaming what bad people we are. I think we should annex Canada and get this back-biting overwith, and then annex Mexico so that we don't have to have endless debates out granting amnesty for all the fucking illegals that Fox keeps sending us. > , but some of your countrymen are real assholes. Looks like our neighbors to the north have a pice of that market too. Wasn't there a thread in the Lounge about the pot and the kettle? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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> That, and your foreign policy is horrible. It's easy to claim that when you're watching stuff happen from the outside. I always had it figured that if we weren't in a shooting war, our foreign poilicy must be a bit of okay. Nowadays, it saeems like there is nothing we can do to avoid being seen as the bad guy, but the minute we threw our hands up and just let the rest of the world be what it wants to be, that's when we'd be seen as - ummm - the bad guy - again. Make up your fuckin minds. > I'll never forget one occasion when a friend > was denied at the Canada/US border. And on this is what you base your criticism of our foreign policy on? I'm sure we haven't heard the whole story here. > NAFTA Hey, a lot of Americans didn't want immigrants from Canbada or Mexico driving our freeways any more than you like the deal. Americans got screwed on that too. > the situation in the middle east You're blaming a holy war on us? They've been bickering and killing each other LONG before we got involved. As far as a lot of Americans are concerned, we should just toss in some really cool weapons, close the gate, and wait for the dust to settle. Meddling? I think you're just envious because the Canadian government doesn't appear to have any fucking backbone of their own, so they let the U.S. go stoimping through the muck and mire, and if the outcome is good, then wowsers, the Canadians are behind us 110%. The minute things turn to shit, the Canadians are hiding under their kilts, point south and screaming what bad people we are. I think we should annex Canada and get this back-biting overwith, and then annex Mexico so that we don't have to have endless debates out granting amnesty for all the fucking illegals that Fox keeps sending us. > , but some of your countrymen are real assholes. Looks like our neighbors to the north have a pice of that market too. Wasn't there a thread in the Lounge about the pot and the kettle? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: just let the rest of the world be what it wants to be, that's when we'd be seen as - ummm - the bad guy - again I don't follow the news too closely anymore, but when did the US hold back and let another country solve it's own problems and get called a bad guy for it? John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: > I'll never forget one occasion when a friend > was denied at the Canada/US border. And on this is what you base your criticism of our foreign policy on? I'm sure we haven't heard the whole story here. I don't think that the border story relates to foreign policy. It's just something that really pissed me off. The foreign policy that I object to is softwood, steel, nafta, "let's bomb them". John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: > the situation in the middle east You're blaming a holy war on us? No, the holy war would happen anyway, much like Ireland. What I was referring to was this: who funded bin laden in the 80's? John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: >, but some of your countrymen are real assholes. Looks like our neighbors to the north have a pice of that market too. I try :) "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: just let the rest of the world be what it wants to be, that's when we'd be seen as - ummm - the bad guy - again I don't follow the news too closely anymore, but when did the US hold back and let another country solve it's own problems and get called a bad guy for it? John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: > I'll never forget one occasion when a friend > was denied at the Canada/US border. And on this is what you base your criticism of our foreign policy on? I'm sure we haven't heard the whole story here. I don't think that the border story relates to foreign policy. It's just something that really pissed me off. The foreign policy that I object to is softwood, steel, nafta, "let's bomb them". John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: > the situation in the middle east You're blaming a holy war on us? No, the holy war would happen anyway, much like Ireland. What I was referring to was this: who funded bin laden in the 80's? John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: >, but some of your countrymen are real assholes. Looks like our neighbors to the north have a pice of that market too. I try :) "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
A perfect example - Isreal is kicking the shit out of the Palestinians, and the world thinks we should step in and try to get things straightened out. If we do,m we're bound to piss someone off. If we don't, we're bound to piss someone off. Quick - what would YOU do? We funded bin Laden so that the Afghans copuld get their country back from the Soviets. It was (at the time) a case of the lesser of two evils. Quick - what would YOU have done? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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A perfect example - Isreal is kicking the shit out of the Palestinians, and the world thinks we should step in and try to get things straightened out. If we do,m we're bound to piss someone off. If we don't, we're bound to piss someone off. Quick - what would YOU do? We funded bin Laden so that the Afghans copuld get their country back from the Soviets. It was (at the time) a case of the lesser of two evils. Quick - what would YOU have done? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Isreal is kicking the sh*t out of the Palestinians Nuke the lot of them and solve the problem once and for all. They all want to go see god, they're just gonna get there earlier. :| John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Afghans copuld get their country back from the Soviets Between the corruption and confusion in the Soviet government and the vodka, they didn't have a hope. I would have left this one alone, either that or show the best bits on pay-per-view. I guess what really bothers me about the US 'helping' other countries is that they only 'help' to further their own interests. If they were really so keen on helping, perhaps they could forgive some of the debts that 3rd world nations owe, rather than setting up puppet dictators. "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Isreal is kicking the sh*t out of the Palestinians Nuke the lot of them and solve the problem once and for all. They all want to go see god, they're just gonna get there earlier. :| John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Afghans copuld get their country back from the Soviets Between the corruption and confusion in the Soviet government and the vodka, they didn't have a hope. I would have left this one alone, either that or show the best bits on pay-per-view. I guess what really bothers me about the US 'helping' other countries is that they only 'help' to further their own interests. If they were really so keen on helping, perhaps they could forgive some of the debts that 3rd world nations owe, rather than setting up puppet dictators. "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
Daniel Ferguson wrote: Nuke the lot of them and solve the problem once and for all. They all want to go see god, they're just gonna get there earlier. I happen to agree with this sentiment. Daniel Ferguson wrote: I guess what really bothers me about the US 'helping' other countries is that they only 'help' to further their own interests. If they were really so keen on helping, perhaps they could forgive some of the debts that 3rd world nations owe, rather than setting up puppet dictators. Well, if a 3rd-world country wants help with something, what's wrong with getting something out of it for our country? That kinda stuff happens ALL the time, and we're certainly not the only country that practices such tactics. And how many times do we have to forgive foreign debt? We do it a LOT more than I think we should. Countries borrow cash from us, and then never pay it back. When that happens, our taxes go up to soak up the loss. I would rather that we just go in and take over because it would be cheapoer in the long run than forgiving the debt. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Just so I'm straight on this... As a Canadian, you believe you have the right to complain about laws internal to the US (gun laws) that cannot effect you unless you visit the US??? Actually, my point is that proliferation of weapons in the US means it's easier for Canadians to get them. If they weren't available to be purchased (by Americans) legally south of the border, there would be fewer of them kicking around. And when there are fewer of them kicking around, fewer of them fall into the hands of Canadian people (in general) and children (specifically). Don't get me wrong, I don't just blame gun laws. I blame a society that spends so much time watching US media as well. And I blame Elvis. The bastard. J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Jamie Hale wrote: And when there are fewer of them kicking around, fewer of them fall into the hands of Canadian people (in general) and children (specifically). Our gun laws, in fact the existence of plentiful guns, is not the problem. Idiot parents who fail to train children, or to provide proper security to prevent children from reaching guns - there's the problem! We have it here, too. I'm far safer here surrounded by guns than anyone in a country that limits them.
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Daniel Ferguson wrote: Nuke the lot of them and solve the problem once and for all. They all want to go see god, they're just gonna get there earlier. I happen to agree with this sentiment. Daniel Ferguson wrote: I guess what really bothers me about the US 'helping' other countries is that they only 'help' to further their own interests. If they were really so keen on helping, perhaps they could forgive some of the debts that 3rd world nations owe, rather than setting up puppet dictators. Well, if a 3rd-world country wants help with something, what's wrong with getting something out of it for our country? That kinda stuff happens ALL the time, and we're certainly not the only country that practices such tactics. And how many times do we have to forgive foreign debt? We do it a LOT more than I think we should. Countries borrow cash from us, and then never pay it back. When that happens, our taxes go up to soak up the loss. I would rather that we just go in and take over because it would be cheapoer in the long run than forgiving the debt. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I happen to agree with this sentiment. Let's convince some more people and get the ball rolling. :) John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: what's wrong with getting something out of it for our country Nothing. It is unrealistic to think anyone would help another person just to be helpful, there is always an selfish agenda (even recognition of a job well done), but the US is too selfish. Their own agenda should be secondary to helping, otherwise don't 'help'. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: our taxes go up to soak up the loss And how much does just one F-117 cost? What is the US' annual military budget, and who pays for that? Your taxes. And all so a bunch of short-dicked men can get their jollies bombing brown-skinned people? :| "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I happen to agree with this sentiment. Let's convince some more people and get the ball rolling. :) John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: what's wrong with getting something out of it for our country Nothing. It is unrealistic to think anyone would help another person just to be helpful, there is always an selfish agenda (even recognition of a job well done), but the US is too selfish. Their own agenda should be secondary to helping, otherwise don't 'help'. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: our taxes go up to soak up the loss And how much does just one F-117 cost? What is the US' annual military budget, and who pays for that? Your taxes. And all so a bunch of short-dicked men can get their jollies bombing brown-skinned people? :| "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown
A favor the U.S. can do to the third world countries is to round up all the corrupt third world politians, take them all to middle of the pacific ocean in a ship and sink that ship. Third world's worst enimies are their own corrupt politians, not the U.S. or any other countries. Because of those politians, they stay third world.
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Out of curiousity, where does this end? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Cars? Knives? Caffeine? Artifical Sweeteners? All can kill you. Hell, the first three kill more Canadians every year than guns. In the end, everyone is responsible for their own actions. Blaming US guns laws for Canadian gun usage is simply making excuses and trying to rationalize the problem. I'm not blaming the US entirely. I agree, Canada need stiffer gun laws and a bunch more money to support the people who enforce them. I'm just saying if there were few guns around, fewer people would get shot. Just seems logical to me. For the most part, alchohol, cigarettes and cars kill people because some people are inherently stupid. And unfortunately, politicians can't lobby against stupidity as it could potentially legislate them out of existence... :) Mike Mullikin wrote: My dog's name is Elvis, An excellent name for a dog. I prefer "people" names for pets. Personally, our next dog will be named Doug, or Arthur or Beatrice or something. J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Jamie Hale wrote: Canada need stiffer gun laws You really should learn the difference between facts, and what you're told by the media. There is a clear, inverse relationship between per capita violent crime rates and ease of public gun ownership and possesion. In the US, 27 states have passed concealed carry laws in the past few years. Without exception, each and every one experienced an immediate and lasted drop in violent crime. One state, I believe it was New Hampshire, has no gun laws; significantly, it also has the lowest crime rate in the nation. Conversely, New York and California, the two states with the strongest gun regulation (and highest police presence) have the highest crime levels. Each year, the presence of a gun in the hands of an average, law-abiding citizen averts approximately one million crimes in this country. In the vast majority of cases there was no need for firing the weapon. The facts are available, but one has to search for them, as they conflict with the liberal agenda and the media refuse to report them.
