IDE and Windows 2000 Problems
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Has anyone else noticed new problems with VC++ 6 after moving from NT4 to W2K? I got a new system with W2K and after installing VC++ 6 the IDE now has a few small but very annoying problems that I don't recall from the NT4 days. I haven't yet applied SP4 because of MS' terrible track record with service packs. I thought I'd wait a few months to see if there wer any problems. Anyway, the problems are: 1. Cut and paste of code doesn't always work. You can select the text then hit CTRL-C but the IDE WILL NOT paste it into the new location no matter how many times I try. Repeatedly re-selecting and re-copying doesn't do anything. However, if I change my copy selection just by one character it works just fine! 2. When trying to save a modified source file, which is part of a loaded project, the IDE will tell me that the file cannot be saved (I forget the exact error). But if I try again, almost immediately, the file saves just fine. It's like there are two threads working with the file but they don't have any cooperation. 3. The IDE will periodically crash when I hit F7 to rebuild. This was so rare under NT4 that I was really surprised when it began happening under W2K. 4. After doing a cut/copy or paste the IDE gets stuck in selection mode. That is, the last location of the carat becomes the start of a text selection and wherever you move the carat to becomes the end of the selection. No amount of ESC, CTRL-C or anything will get it out of this selection mode. I got really pissed and wiped my hands over the entire keyboard several times, like you would a piano keys, and the all went back to normal. That is now how I fix it. It sounds like I'm beating the shit out of my keyboard :)!!!
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Has anyone else noticed new problems with VC++ 6 after moving from NT4 to W2K? I got a new system with W2K and after installing VC++ 6 the IDE now has a few small but very annoying problems that I don't recall from the NT4 days. I haven't yet applied SP4 because of MS' terrible track record with service packs. I thought I'd wait a few months to see if there wer any problems. Anyway, the problems are: 1. Cut and paste of code doesn't always work. You can select the text then hit CTRL-C but the IDE WILL NOT paste it into the new location no matter how many times I try. Repeatedly re-selecting and re-copying doesn't do anything. However, if I change my copy selection just by one character it works just fine! 2. When trying to save a modified source file, which is part of a loaded project, the IDE will tell me that the file cannot be saved (I forget the exact error). But if I try again, almost immediately, the file saves just fine. It's like there are two threads working with the file but they don't have any cooperation. 3. The IDE will periodically crash when I hit F7 to rebuild. This was so rare under NT4 that I was really surprised when it began happening under W2K. 4. After doing a cut/copy or paste the IDE gets stuck in selection mode. That is, the last location of the carat becomes the start of a text selection and wherever you move the carat to becomes the end of the selection. No amount of ESC, CTRL-C or anything will get it out of this selection mode. I got really pissed and wiped my hands over the entire keyboard several times, like you would a piano keys, and the all went back to normal. That is now how I fix it. It sounds like I'm beating the shit out of my keyboard :)!!!
I experienced what you say at point 4, but just one time. I remember that selecting other text saved me from that trouble. Never experienced the other points, however, maybe point 2 but one or two times. I can't say why... Cheers, Paolo.
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Has anyone else noticed new problems with VC++ 6 after moving from NT4 to W2K? I got a new system with W2K and after installing VC++ 6 the IDE now has a few small but very annoying problems that I don't recall from the NT4 days. I haven't yet applied SP4 because of MS' terrible track record with service packs. I thought I'd wait a few months to see if there wer any problems. Anyway, the problems are: 1. Cut and paste of code doesn't always work. You can select the text then hit CTRL-C but the IDE WILL NOT paste it into the new location no matter how many times I try. Repeatedly re-selecting and re-copying doesn't do anything. However, if I change my copy selection just by one character it works just fine! 2. When trying to save a modified source file, which is part of a loaded project, the IDE will tell me that the file cannot be saved (I forget the exact error). But if I try again, almost immediately, the file saves just fine. It's like there are two threads working with the file but they don't have any cooperation. 3. The IDE will periodically crash when I hit F7 to rebuild. This was so rare under NT4 that I was really surprised when it began happening under W2K. 4. After doing a cut/copy or paste the IDE gets stuck in selection mode. That is, the last location of the carat becomes the start of a text selection and wherever you move the carat to becomes the end of the selection. No amount of ESC, CTRL-C or anything will get it out of this selection mode. I got really pissed and wiped my hands over the entire keyboard several times, like you would a piano keys, and the all went back to normal. That is now how I fix it. It sounds like I'm beating the shit out of my keyboard :)!!!
Interesting, I though this was just me... I am getting 1 very frequently, which is extremly annoying. I usually can't get pasting to work untill I have made a sucessfull paste outside of the IDE. I have absolutely no idea why this is. I have never experienced 2 or 3, but 4 is also trur for me, though not just after attempting to copy.paste. Sometrimes the selection will just remain untill I reopen the source file. I alos get another problem though, which is that the IDE VERY frequently stops responding for about 20 - 60 seconds, and then resumes. This is not during compile time, ubut while editing files. I have been told many approaches to solve this, but none have worked. Maybe it is because I have too many include directories set up, and VC++ uses a timer to update intellisense or something?... Oh yeah, I am also using Windows 2000, the profesional edition, and didn't have these problems with NT4.
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Interesting, I though this was just me... I am getting 1 very frequently, which is extremly annoying. I usually can't get pasting to work untill I have made a sucessfull paste outside of the IDE. I have absolutely no idea why this is. I have never experienced 2 or 3, but 4 is also trur for me, though not just after attempting to copy.paste. Sometrimes the selection will just remain untill I reopen the source file. I alos get another problem though, which is that the IDE VERY frequently stops responding for about 20 - 60 seconds, and then resumes. This is not during compile time, ubut while editing files. I have been told many approaches to solve this, but none have worked. Maybe it is because I have too many include directories set up, and VC++ uses a timer to update intellisense or something?... Oh yeah, I am also using Windows 2000, the profesional edition, and didn't have these problems with NT4.
Opps, I have very bad spelling which is obvoius from my last reply. Sorry.
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Interesting, I though this was just me... I am getting 1 very frequently, which is extremly annoying. I usually can't get pasting to work untill I have made a sucessfull paste outside of the IDE. I have absolutely no idea why this is. I have never experienced 2 or 3, but 4 is also trur for me, though not just after attempting to copy.paste. Sometrimes the selection will just remain untill I reopen the source file. I alos get another problem though, which is that the IDE VERY frequently stops responding for about 20 - 60 seconds, and then resumes. This is not during compile time, ubut while editing files. I have been told many approaches to solve this, but none have worked. Maybe it is because I have too many include directories set up, and VC++ uses a timer to update intellisense or something?... Oh yeah, I am also using Windows 2000, the profesional edition, and didn't have these problems with NT4.
I also encounter IDE pauses frequently but they are usually no longer than 2 or 3 seconds. You didn't say what kind of system you had, buy my system is a 800 MHz P3 it may be fast enough to make the pause less noticible. You are probably right about the delays being caused by intellisense. I thought about turning it off until it dawned on me how much I use it
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I also encounter IDE pauses frequently but they are usually no longer than 2 or 3 seconds. You didn't say what kind of system you had, buy my system is a 800 MHz P3 it may be fast enough to make the pause less noticible. You are probably right about the delays being caused by intellisense. I thought about turning it off until it dawned on me how much I use it
I don't think my system has much to do with it, before the move to Windows 2000, I was using a dual P2 450 with 128 MB RAM (NT4 SP3), but now I have a dual PIII 650 machine, with 512 MB RAM. I also can't live without intellisense, it would require learning a hell of a lot about MFC that I don't want to, and don't have the time to.
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Has anyone else noticed new problems with VC++ 6 after moving from NT4 to W2K? I got a new system with W2K and after installing VC++ 6 the IDE now has a few small but very annoying problems that I don't recall from the NT4 days. I haven't yet applied SP4 because of MS' terrible track record with service packs. I thought I'd wait a few months to see if there wer any problems. Anyway, the problems are: 1. Cut and paste of code doesn't always work. You can select the text then hit CTRL-C but the IDE WILL NOT paste it into the new location no matter how many times I try. Repeatedly re-selecting and re-copying doesn't do anything. However, if I change my copy selection just by one character it works just fine! 2. When trying to save a modified source file, which is part of a loaded project, the IDE will tell me that the file cannot be saved (I forget the exact error). But if I try again, almost immediately, the file saves just fine. It's like there are two threads working with the file but they don't have any cooperation. 3. The IDE will periodically crash when I hit F7 to rebuild. This was so rare under NT4 that I was really surprised when it began happening under W2K. 4. After doing a cut/copy or paste the IDE gets stuck in selection mode. That is, the last location of the carat becomes the start of a text selection and wherever you move the carat to becomes the end of the selection. No amount of ESC, CTRL-C or anything will get it out of this selection mode. I got really pissed and wiped my hands over the entire keyboard several times, like you would a piano keys, and the all went back to normal. That is now how I fix it. It sounds like I'm beating the shit out of my keyboard :)!!!
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I have experienced (1), (2), and (4) on both NT4.0 SP 6.0a and Win2000 SP1. I have never experienced 3 on either operating system. I was really hoping that DevStudio SP4 would fix (1) because that is the problem I see most frequntly.