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  • I Ingo

    espeir wrote:

    That's simply not possible. They'd have to cross an ocean, and to do that they would first have to conquer "boat technology". Since we're about 500 years more advanced than them technology-wise, by the time they master the boat, we'll probably be watching TV comfortably on Mars.

    I remember in school we learned something about some very advanced nations that couldn't be conquered and, uh, wait they were all conquered? I hope that Europe and America won't be conquered, but I don't think when the whole world is muslimic that America will stand against eternally... Regards, Ingo

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    Red Stateler
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    As long as we possess the will, we cannot be conquered because, unlike previous advanced nations, we have enough nukes to destroy any enemy that is about to overtake us, and we're not afraid to use 'em.

    "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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      I was just setting a little trap you know, read the rest of the posts.

      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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      73Zeppelin
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      fat_boy wrote:

      I was just setting a little trap you know, read the rest of the posts.

      Oh, I see... kind of like how European companies pass out "donations" to totalitarian Islamic regimes and ousted dictators?

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        ihoecken wrote:

        You should see the Starfighter it was one of the best European planes ever. I just wish that all of them woudln't have crashed at their maiden flight

        I remember reading a news story out of Britain about 2 years ago. Europe was very proud because a Eurofighter and an F-15 flying over Britain spotted eachother and decided to have some fun with a mock dogfight. Both pilots were impressed and said that the Eurofighter was slightly better than the F-15...But the F-15 is over 30 years old! It's currently being replaced by the F-22[^] which is just supposed to be amazing (an F-15 doesn't stand a chance).

        ihoecken wrote:

        Well america has better airplanes I think, but we still have the best - em - I don't know what, but I'm sure we have

        Better cheese, perhaps?

        "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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        Ryan Roberts
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        2 F22's downed 10+ F-15's in a mock combat. F-15's didn't even see them.

        Ryan

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          ihoecken wrote:

          I remember in school we learned something about some very advanced nations that couldn't be conquered and, uh, wait they were all conquered? I hope that Europe and America won't be conquered, but I don't think when the whole world is muslimic that America will stand against eternally...

          This is a real concern; especially in light of the fact that all these Islamic nations really have it all put together. I've never seen such cooperation on a grand scale! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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          thealj wrote:

          This is a real concern; especially in light of the fact that all these Islamic nations really have it all put together. I've never seen such cooperation on a grand scale!

          What? I didn't wrote that it will happen. I just that if Europe will be conquered it could happen, and that Europe will be conquered wasn't my idea.

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            thealj wrote:

            This is a real concern; especially in light of the fact that all these Islamic nations really have it all put together. I've never seen such cooperation on a grand scale!

            What? I didn't wrote that it will happen. I just that if Europe will be conquered it could happen, and that Europe will be conquered wasn't my idea.

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            73Zeppelin
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            ihoecken wrote:

            What? I didn't wrote that it will happen. I just that if Europe will be conquered it could happen, and that Europe will be conquered wasn't my idea.

            To be honest, I really don't think it is a concern either now or in the future... Islam has a multitude of internal problems - not the least of which are the divisions of the different sects. As a culture, they need to grow immensely before they will have any capability of gaining control of other parts of the world.

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              Hmm, are there enough virgin islands to go around though?

              Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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              73Zeppelin
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              fat_boy wrote:

              Hmm, are there enough virgin islands to go around though?

              I think the REAL question is whether or not there are enough virgins ON the islands to go around...

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                ihoecken wrote:

                You should see the Starfighter it was one of the best European planes ever. I just wish that all of them woudln't have crashed at their maiden flight

                I remember reading a news story out of Britain about 2 years ago. Europe was very proud because a Eurofighter and an F-15 flying over Britain spotted eachother and decided to have some fun with a mock dogfight. Both pilots were impressed and said that the Eurofighter was slightly better than the F-15...But the F-15 is over 30 years old! It's currently being replaced by the F-22[^] which is just supposed to be amazing (an F-15 doesn't stand a chance).

                ihoecken wrote:

                Well america has better airplanes I think, but we still have the best - em - I don't know what, but I'm sure we have

                Better cheese, perhaps?

                "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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                leckey 0
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                That's right baby! Nothing comes close to our colby-jack! Or Baby Swiss! Although I could really go for some smoked gouda right now. ..I love cheese.

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                  That's right baby! Nothing comes close to our colby-jack! Or Baby Swiss! Although I could really go for some smoked gouda right now. ..I love cheese.

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                  Swiss cheese is totally over-rated and over-priced.

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                    ihoecken wrote:

                    What? I didn't wrote that it will happen. I just that if Europe will be conquered it could happen, and that Europe will be conquered wasn't my idea.

                    To be honest, I really don't think it is a concern either now or in the future... Islam has a multitude of internal problems - not the least of which are the divisions of the different sects. As a culture, they need to grow immensely before they will have any capability of gaining control of other parts of the world.

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                    Ingo
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                    thealj wrote:

                    To be honest, I really don't think it is a concern either now or in the future... Islam has a multitude of internal problems - not the least of which are the divisions of the different sects. As a culture, they need to grow immensely before they will have any capability of gaining control of other parts of the world.

                    I think you are right. But European politicians are to friendly with islamic fundamentalists. Many years they looked away because of "freedom of religion". Seems to get a little better know, even if we got some "I-will-never-learn-unimportant-what-will-happen"-politicians here. :^)

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                      Al Queda has proclaimed its own Manifest Destiny...And it has you in its sights! link[^]

                      Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader issued a worldwide call Thursday
                      for Muslims to rise up in a holy war against Israel and join
                      the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza until Islam reigns from
                      "Spain to Iraq."

                      "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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                      73Zeppelin
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                      I wonder what's wrong with Portugal and the UK? :confused:

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                        That's right baby! Nothing comes close to our colby-jack! Or Baby Swiss! Although I could really go for some smoked gouda right now. ..I love cheese.

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                        leckey wrote:

                        I could really go for some smoked gouda right now.

                        <kramer> Oh, Momma! </kramer> How about Gruyere? Now that's the stuff, or better yet Appenzeller.

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                          I wonder what's wrong with Portugal and the UK? :confused:

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                          Ingo
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                          thealj wrote:

                          I wonder what's wrong with Portugal and the UK?

                          For UK it's obvious. Bad cookery. Nobody with sense of taste wants to conquer UK. ;)

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                            thealj wrote:

                            I wonder what's wrong with Portugal and the UK?

                            For UK it's obvious. Bad cookery. Nobody with sense of taste wants to conquer UK. ;)

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                            73Zeppelin
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                            :-D

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                            • I Ingo

                              thealj wrote:

                              I wonder what's wrong with Portugal and the UK?

                              For UK it's obvious. Bad cookery. Nobody with sense of taste wants to conquer UK. ;)

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                              Ryan Roberts
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                              Screw you, loads of our chefs are trained to cook French and mediterranean cuisine :)

                              Ryan

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                              • L Lost User

                                You dont have to, our stuff is superior.

                                Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                                Richard Stringer
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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                ou dont have to, our stuff is superior.

                                What - your dope is superior - maybe your cute little uniforms or snazzy little submachine guns ( that jam when dirty ). Surely not your tanks, planes, EW equipment, submarines, carriers ( do you even have any real carriers ), satellites. But hey - those EU troops can march real good. Shirly - you jest. With the exception of certain units in the UK I would place your "stuff" right up there with the Boy Scouts. Richard

                                Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain

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                                  Al Queda has proclaimed its own Manifest Destiny...And it has you in its sights! link[^]

                                  Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader issued a worldwide call Thursday
                                  for Muslims to rise up in a holy war against Israel and join
                                  the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza until Islam reigns from
                                  "Spain to Iraq."

                                  "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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                                  Lost User
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                                  There are those who are gullable enough to believe the excrement that eminates from that foul mouth. Time for Pakistan to forcefully and permanently close (and prosecute) those madrasas that teach extremist fundamentalist ideologies. Then the world might become a little safer from such extremists.

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                                    fat_boy wrote:

                                    ou dont have to, our stuff is superior.

                                    What - your dope is superior - maybe your cute little uniforms or snazzy little submachine guns ( that jam when dirty ). Surely not your tanks, planes, EW equipment, submarines, carriers ( do you even have any real carriers ), satellites. But hey - those EU troops can march real good. Shirly - you jest. With the exception of certain units in the UK I would place your "stuff" right up there with the Boy Scouts. Richard

                                    Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain

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                                    Richard Stringer wrote:

                                    What - your dope is superior - maybe your cute little uniforms or snazzy little submachine guns ( that jam when dirty ). Surely not your tanks, planes, EW equipment, submarines, carriers ( do you even have any real carriers ), satellites.

                                    Shame on me to join this little ours are "bigger, better, faster" game, but here is a link about tanks, of course it is just a personal view of Leopard against M-1: http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200418.asp[^]

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                                      Just puling your leg. Of course US stuff is good. Thats why when Israel hits a UN post smack on you know its on purpose.

                                      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                                      fat_boy wrote:

                                      Thats why when Israel hits a UN post smack on you know its on purpose.

                                      Of course it is on purpose. hezbolla is using UN positions as cover and the UN is doing nothing about it. "Retired Canadian Major General Lewis Mackenzie was interviewed on CBC radio, and had some very interesting news about the UN observer post hit by Israeli shells; the Canadian peacekeeper killed there had previously emailed Mackenzie telling him that Hizballah was using their post as cover." http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/why_the_un_post_was_bombed/

                                      My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                      • I Ingo

                                        Richard Stringer wrote:

                                        What - your dope is superior - maybe your cute little uniforms or snazzy little submachine guns ( that jam when dirty ). Surely not your tanks, planes, EW equipment, submarines, carriers ( do you even have any real carriers ), satellites.

                                        Shame on me to join this little ours are "bigger, better, faster" game, but here is a link about tanks, of course it is just a personal view of Leopard against M-1: http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200418.asp[^]

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                                        Red Stateler
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                                        I don't much about tanks, but the opinion of that author is correct and based on my loose interpretation of something on Wikipedia, the United States has about 4 times as many M1's than Europe has Leopards. All that is irrlevant, though, since all the leopards would first be bombed from above.

                                        "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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                                          Al Queda has proclaimed its own Manifest Destiny...And it has you in its sights! link[^]

                                          Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader issued a worldwide call Thursday
                                          for Muslims to rise up in a holy war against Israel and join
                                          the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza until Islam reigns from
                                          "Spain to Iraq."

                                          "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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                                          espeir wrote:

                                          Al Queda has proclaimed its own Manifest Destiny...And it has you in its sights! link[^] Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader issued a worldwide call Thursday for Muslims to rise up in a holy war against Israel and join the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza until Islam reigns from "Spain to Iraq."

                                          but which way are they coming. If they use my standard Risk/World Empire route of going through Israel into Egypt, along the North African coast and then up into Spain then I'm not too worried. Or are they going via Afghanistan and into Europe that way. Gotta know which way they are coming so I move my troops into the right neighbouring countries,

                                          Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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