Holy Cow!
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BTW, Wikipedia agrees with my assessment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman[^]
Some guy on the Internet said:
As a rhetorical term, "straw man" describes a point of view that was created in order to be easily defeated in argument; the creator of a "straw man" argument does not accurately reflect the best arguments of his or her opponents, but instead sidesteps or mischaracterizes them so as to make the opposing view appear weak or ridiculous
- F "You are really weird." - Kyle, age 16
Fisticuffs wrote:
BTW, Wikipedia agrees with my assessment.
Nope. As Wikipedia states, a strawman argument must mischaracterize the original argument and I never do that. This is an example of a strawman: Person A: Israel is a terrorist state! They are killing civilians! Person B: What are you talking about? Don't you eat beef? You have to kill in order to eat beef! See...Person A is talking about killing people and Person B is talking about killing cows, thereby try to draw a parallel argument while mischaracterizing the first. The following is not a strawman: Person A: We need to reach a diplomatic solution between Lebanon and Israel! All this fighting will not succeed! Person B: We attempted to be diplomatic with Germany and all it got us was WWII. A decisive military victory is needed to determine a final end to the multiple conflicts. See...In this example (which I follow often), I did not mischaracterize the original argument. Rather, I provided an example of their argument in practice and the end results. The former argument is a strawman and the latter is not. You often confuse the supporting evidence of contrary arguments as strawman.
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"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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Fisticuffs wrote:
BTW, Wikipedia agrees with my assessment.
Nope. As Wikipedia states, a strawman argument must mischaracterize the original argument and I never do that. This is an example of a strawman: Person A: Israel is a terrorist state! They are killing civilians! Person B: What are you talking about? Don't you eat beef? You have to kill in order to eat beef! See...Person A is talking about killing people and Person B is talking about killing cows, thereby try to draw a parallel argument while mischaracterizing the first. The following is not a strawman: Person A: We need to reach a diplomatic solution between Lebanon and Israel! All this fighting will not succeed! Person B: We attempted to be diplomatic with Germany and all it got us was WWII. A decisive military victory is needed to determine a final end to the multiple conflicts. See...In this example (which I follow often), I did not mischaracterize the original argument. Rather, I provided an example of their argument in practice and the end results. The former argument is a strawman and the latter is not. You often confuse the supporting evidence of contrary arguments as strawman.
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"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
espeir wrote:
Nope. As Wikipedia states, a strawman argument must mischaracterize the original argument and I never do that. This is an example of a strawman:
Dude, I never meant that _you_ were constructing a strawman argument, but Pumpkinhead sure was. You were, however, very successfully arguing against a "straw man." Hence my phrase 'strawman off of,' which probably could have been clearer on my part. Edit: Naaaahhhhhhhhh, it wouldn't have made a difference, because you're just a shrill, reactionary, screeching dipshit anyway. -- modified at 16:21 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006
- F "You are really weird." - Kyle, age 16
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No, I don't see muslims as enemies. I do see those who kill civilians, in order to push their own agenda, as criminals though. I don't see why israeli or palestinian children have to die, just because grown up idiots can't smarten up and make peace. Come after me to kill me though, then you'll be my enemy. I suppose Usama and his bearded cohorts are my enemies. Not that I think I did something to deserve it though.
-- Based on a True Story
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Come after me to kill me though, then you'll be my enemy. I suppose Usama and his bearded cohorts are my enemies. Not that I think I did something to deserve it though.
A perfect example of a European response to a terrorist/threat. -- modified at 16:21 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006
My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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espeir wrote:
Nope. As Wikipedia states, a strawman argument must mischaracterize the original argument and I never do that. This is an example of a strawman:
Dude, I never meant that _you_ were constructing a strawman argument, but Pumpkinhead sure was. You were, however, very successfully arguing against a "straw man." Hence my phrase 'strawman off of,' which probably could have been clearer on my part. Edit: Naaaahhhhhhhhh, it wouldn't have made a difference, because you're just a shrill, reactionary, screeching dipshit anyway. -- modified at 16:21 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006
- F "You are really weird." - Kyle, age 16
I think you have accused me of strawman numerous times before, though I have never used it. It might have been somebody else.
Fisticuffs wrote:
Edit: Naaaahhhhhhhhh, it wouldn't have made a difference, because you're just a shrill, reactionary, screeching dipshit anyway.
You're ugly.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Come after me to kill me though, then you'll be my enemy. I suppose Usama and his bearded cohorts are my enemies. Not that I think I did something to deserve it though.
A perfect example of a European response to a terrorist/threat. -- modified at 16:21 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006
My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
Duh-duh-duh-duh.. uuh uuuh. duh.
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Duh-duh-duh-duh.. uuh uuuh. duh.
-- Please rise for the Futurama theme song
Did you ever really think my Al Majiid account was real?
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I think you have accused me of strawman numerous times before, though I have never used it. It might have been somebody else.
Fisticuffs wrote:
Edit: Naaaahhhhhhhhh, it wouldn't have made a difference, because you're just a shrill, reactionary, screeching dipshit anyway.
You're ugly.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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Did you ever really think my Al Majiid account was real?
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What exactly are your problems? Mental, physical, or both?
-- Presented in doublevision (where drunk)
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What exactly are your problems? Mental, physical, or both?
-- Presented in doublevision (where drunk)
I am perfectly fine, thank you for your concern though. :rolleyes:
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He's Swedish.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
espeir wrote:
He's Swedish.
Good god, even worse!
Ðavid Wulff Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (video)
10 PRINT 'HELLO MAINTAINER: GOTO HELL -
Doubt all you want, but I'll be a millionaire once I finish my electrical generator that runs off my pudgy, puffy cheeks.
- F "You are really weird." - Kyle, age 16
Fisticuffs wrote:
Hey, where did you get my picture?
Where did you get my "shrill" and "screeching" voice?
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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Fisticuffs wrote:
Hey, where did you get my picture?
Where did you get my "shrill" and "screeching" voice?
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Well, I did not express myself correctly. But you did hint that I didn't give a sh*t about the deaths in Japan during WW2. Calling my hypocrite, etc. I should've said "Stop making assumptions about what I think".
You shouldnt talk to me like that,did you know your bible says to love your enemies and turn the other cheek? :laugh:
Ahmad Al Majiid wrote:
You shouldnt talk to me like that,did you know your bible says to love your enemies and turn the other cheek
I like the part about "an eye for an eye" myself. "Lets drop the big one and we'll suprise them Lets do it now and we'll pulverize them .. etc.. " Richard
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
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espeir wrote:
He's Swedish.
Good god, even worse!
Ðavid Wulff Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (video)
10 PRINT 'HELLO MAINTAINER: GOTO HELLOi! Watch it, or I'll stuff the boat full of mushrooms and invade the shores of england! ;P
-- Now with chucklelin
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What you're seeing is that terrorism is bad when it's my people being blown up. When it's those people over there it's perfectly ok. The iraqi shiites are being blown up by iraqi sunni's which the shiites see as a bad thing. When they start condeming all terrorism then I'll take notice.
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The Iraqi resistance is not terrorists,They're freedom fighters resisting American tyranny.
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The Americans murdered innocent Japanese civilians in WWII, and they put the Japanese americans in concentration camps. You are the worst kind of hypocrites
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Score 1.0? You did a good job of imitating fat_boy.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
