Hoo-Ahh!!! Hezbollah
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
How does them being willing to leave
Wow... do you work at the U.N. now? :-D
led mike
led mike wrote:
Wow... do you work at the U.N. now?
This may be painfully obvious for everyone else, but I don't get it. Hey, I'm from the south, so it's excused. :-D
Jeremy Falcon
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led mike wrote:
Wow... do you work at the U.N. now?
This may be painfully obvious for everyone else, but I don't get it. Hey, I'm from the south, so it's excused. :-D
Jeremy Falcon
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Permit me to congratulate you on your side winning. I must say the tactic of first attacking Israel, than condeming them for every civilian they inadvertantly kill while trying to clear the area of terrorists firing rockets into their country, and then declaring victory when they submit to international pressure to withdraw, is absolutely brilliant. Magnificent job. You should be proud.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
This may be painfully obvious for everyone else
Probably not. I was thinking that your statement must be a gigantic over simplification of the truth, and the U.N. was all I could come up with to equate that with.
led mike
led mike wrote:
I was thinking that your statement must be a gigantic over simplification of the truth
Well yeah, most statements like that are. Just like the one that said they were driven out. But, that article that was pointed to didn't mention or even act they were driven out, which suggests to me it wasn't by force. I'll leave the rest up to interpretation.
Jeremy Falcon
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led mike wrote:
I was thinking that your statement must be a gigantic over simplification of the truth
Well yeah, most statements like that are. Just like the one that said they were driven out. But, that article that was pointed to didn't mention or even act they were driven out, which suggests to me it wasn't by force. I'll leave the rest up to interpretation.
Jeremy Falcon
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LOL! 5!
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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led mike wrote:
I was thinking that your statement must be a gigantic over simplification of the truth
Well yeah, most statements like that are. Just like the one that said they were driven out. But, that article that was pointed to didn't mention or even act they were driven out, which suggests to me it wasn't by force. I'll leave the rest up to interpretation.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
that article that was pointed to didn't mention or even act they were driven out
That article was in the Jerusalem Post, the most pro-Israel right-wing paper in existence. If even they don't consider it a victory, what must the reality be? Olmert's government is in shambles, the Army is in disarray and top generals are likely to be canned. Hezbollah, Iran and Syria have been strengthened while the cause of democracy in the mideast has been weakened. Over 100 Israeli soldiers were killed. If you compare that, population-wise, to the U.S., it is about twice as many as the number of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq during the past 3 1/2 years. Dozens of Israeli tanks were destroyed by Hezbollah anti-tank missles. Even though Hezbollah rocket attacks on Israel were highly inefficient, with only about 30 or 40 people killed despite more than 3,500 rockets, Israel is left begging for missle defense systems from the U.S. You may think it was a victory but Israel cannot afford many more "victories" like that one.
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Permit me to congratulate you on your side winning. I must say the tactic of first attacking Israel, than condeming them for every civilian they inadvertantly kill while trying to clear the area of terrorists firing rockets into their country, and then declaring victory when they submit to international pressure to withdraw, is absolutely brilliant. Magnificent job. You should be proud.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Not my side, dude. I wouldn't care if they destroyed each other in a gigantic ball of flame. Israel is not the 51st state. Neither is Hezbollah.
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I'd say so.
Definition of 'Liberal': A person who is so open minded that their brains have fallen out.
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why not?! better to be light-hearted than tight-assed.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
that article that was pointed to didn't mention or even act they were driven out
That article was in the Jerusalem Post, the most pro-Israel right-wing paper in existence. If even they don't consider it a victory, what must the reality be? Olmert's government is in shambles, the Army is in disarray and top generals are likely to be canned. Hezbollah, Iran and Syria have been strengthened while the cause of democracy in the mideast has been weakened. Over 100 Israeli soldiers were killed. If you compare that, population-wise, to the U.S., it is about twice as many as the number of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq during the past 3 1/2 years. Dozens of Israeli tanks were destroyed by Hezbollah anti-tank missles. Even though Hezbollah rocket attacks on Israel were highly inefficient, with only about 30 or 40 people killed despite more than 3,500 rockets, Israel is left begging for missle defense systems from the U.S. You may think it was a victory but Israel cannot afford many more "victories" like that one.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
If even they don't consider it a victory, what must the reality be?
a standoff, but a emotional, moral victory. they stood up for themselves against the neighborhood bullies: Hezbollah.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Not my side, dude. I wouldn't care if they destroyed each other in a gigantic ball of flame. Israel is not the 51st state. Neither is Hezbollah.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
I wouldn't care if they destroyed each other in a gigantic ball of flame. Israel is not the 51st state. Neither is Hezbollah.
I'm with you on that.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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why not?! better to be light-hearted than tight-assed.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
Hot damn, we agree!
Jeremy Falcon
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why not?! better to be light-hearted than tight-assed.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Permit me to congratulate you on your side winning. I must say the tactic of first attacking Israel, than condeming them for every civilian they inadvertantly kill while trying to clear the area of terrorists firing rockets into their country, and then declaring victory when they submit to international pressure to withdraw, is absolutely brilliant. Magnificent job. You should be proud.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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(Link may require free registration.) As stunned Lebanese returned Tuesday over broken roads to shattered apartments in the south, it increasingly seemed that the beneficiary of the destruction was most likely to be Hezbollah. A major reason — in addition to its hard-won reputation as the only Arab force that fought Israel to a standstill — is that it is already dominating the efforts to rebuild with a torrent of money from oil-rich Iran. ... While the Israelis began their withdrawal, hundreds of Hezbollah members spread over dozens of villages across southern Lebanon began cleaning, organizing and surveying damage. Men on bulldozers were busy cutting lanes through giant piles of rubble. ... In Sreifa, a Hezbollah official said the group would offer an initial $10,000 to residents to help pay for the year of rent, to buy new furniture and to help feed families.[^]
This does raise a point that Hezbollah do address these issues - also Hamas got elected by the palestinians because while Fattah was getting lots of money Hamas was supporting schools and hospitals.
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No, I think they should be remembered as murderous theocratic maniacs. I guess we differ on the kinds of people we would like to live next door to.
Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
Ryan Roberts wrote:
I think they should be remembered as murderous theocratic maniacs.
I think that many people on both sides should be remembered that way.
Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.
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Ryan Roberts wrote:
I think they should be remembered as murderous theocratic maniacs.
I think that many people on both sides should be remembered that way.
Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.
How delightfully even handed of you. Try reading some hezbollah propaganda material sometime (the stuff for internal consumption, not what they feed to credulous westerners), I assure you there is quite a difference.
Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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How delightfully even handed of you. Try reading some hezbollah propaganda material sometime (the stuff for internal consumption, not what they feed to credulous westerners), I assure you there is quite a difference.
Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
Ryan Roberts wrote:
How delightfully even handed of you.
Ta, mate. Anyone who kills anyone in the name of religion is a theocratic maniac. Anyone who feels that the writings of a 1,500 or 3,000-year-old religious text is a valid reason to displace thousands of people and destroy their livelihoods and culture is a theocratic maniac. It doesn't matter which side you're on, relying on a religious text to justify war is mania.
Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.
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Ryan Roberts wrote:
How delightfully even handed of you.
Ta, mate. Anyone who kills anyone in the name of religion is a theocratic maniac. Anyone who feels that the writings of a 1,500 or 3,000-year-old religious text is a valid reason to displace thousands of people and destroy their livelihoods and culture is a theocratic maniac. It doesn't matter which side you're on, relying on a religious text to justify war is mania.
Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.
Israel is one of the most secular countries in the world, more Atheists than the UK and most of europe. Hizbollah isn't[^]. Lebanon is a different matter. -- modified at 5:58 Friday 18th August, 2006
Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette