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  • N Nader Elshehabi

    Hello Thank you for your kind reply. May I ask if this is your personal opinion, or is it shared among the majority at where you live? Did you notice anti-muslims hatred just for being muslims at where you live?

    Regards:rose:

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    Jerry Hammond
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    Nader Elshehabi wrote:

    Did you notice anti-muslims hatred just for being muslims at where you live?

    Hatred? No. A weary caution and possible mistrust? Yes.

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    • N Nader Elshehabi

      Hello Thank you for your kind reply. May I ask if this is your personal opinion, or is it shared among the majority at where you live? Did you notice anti-muslims hatred just for being muslims at where you live?

      Regards:rose:

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      I would say that the majority could not care less what thier neighbor's religeous preference, race or national origin is (and I live in the "bible belt" southern part of the U.S). There are always the ignorant few who would blame all of a group for the deeds of a few, but I doubt that there are any more here than elsewere. An important point is that even those few aren't angry at all muslims because of their beliefs, but rather because of the bad actions of a few muslims done in the name of Islam.

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      • J Jerry Hammond

        Nader Elshehabi wrote:

        Did you notice anti-muslims hatred just for being muslims at where you live?

        Hatred? No. A weary caution and possible mistrust? Yes.

        When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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        Nader Elshehabi
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        Hello Thanks Jerry. I appreciate your understanding.

        Regards:rose:

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          I would say that the majority could not care less what thier neighbor's religeous preference, race or national origin is (and I live in the "bible belt" southern part of the U.S). There are always the ignorant few who would blame all of a group for the deeds of a few, but I doubt that there are any more here than elsewere. An important point is that even those few aren't angry at all muslims because of their beliefs, but rather because of the bad actions of a few muslims done in the name of Islam.

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          Nader Elshehabi
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          Hello

          Rob Graham wrote:

          but rather because of the bad actions of a few muslims done in the name of Islam.

          I hope that muslims in the US would clear this bad picture out!! Thanks again for your reply.

          Regards:rose:

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          • N Nader Elshehabi

            Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

            Regards:rose:

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            Ed Gadziemski
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            1. Yes. 2. No, unless the muslim was you. 3. Yes. 4. Yes. 5. No, although I tend to look askance at anybody of any religion who needs to believe in a god or gods. In my view, there are no gods.


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            • N Nader Elshehabi

              Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

              Regards:rose:

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

              1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?

              That would depend on how you act, etc.

              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

              Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?

              Only if you were directly involved or if you supported the terrorists or if you blamed the victims.

              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

              Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?

              Sure, so long as you would listen to me.

              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

              Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?

              Yes, until you proved otherwise.

              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

              Would you hate me for being a muslim?

              No, unless you gave me some reason to.

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              • E Ed Gadziemski

                1. Yes. 2. No, unless the muslim was you. 3. Yes. 4. Yes. 5. No, although I tend to look askance at anybody of any religion who needs to believe in a god or gods. In my view, there are no gods.


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                Nader Elshehabi
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                Hello

                Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                unless the muslim was you.

                :laugh:You can bet that won't happen!! Thanks for you reply.

                Regards:rose:

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                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                  1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?

                  That would depend on how you act, etc.

                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                  Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?

                  Only if you were directly involved or if you supported the terrorists or if you blamed the victims.

                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                  Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?

                  Sure, so long as you would listen to me.

                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                  Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?

                  Yes, until you proved otherwise.

                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                  Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                  No, unless you gave me some reason to.

                  Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                  Nader Elshehabi
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                  Hello Thanks for your reply Ahz. Yet I still hope that one day you'd remove any suspicion in your heart about the innocence of muslims and Islam. Maybe we would meet one day then we would get to know each other. Who knows?

                  Regards:rose:

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                  • E Ed Gadziemski

                    1. Yes. 2. No, unless the muslim was you. 3. Yes. 4. Yes. 5. No, although I tend to look askance at anybody of any religion who needs to believe in a god or gods. In my view, there are no gods.


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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                    there are no gods

                    How true. There can only be one. :)


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                    • E Ed Gadziemski

                      1. Yes. 2. No, unless the muslim was you. 3. Yes. 4. Yes. 5. No, although I tend to look askance at anybody of any religion who needs to believe in a god or gods. In my view, there are no gods.


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                      Rob Graham
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                      Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                      In my view, there are no gods.

                      Either there is no omnipotent being, or that omnipotent being is cruel and evil. Given that there is cuelty and evil in the universe, there is no other logical conclusion.

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                      • N Nader Elshehabi

                        Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                        Regards:rose:

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                        Don't judge all/any western countries by the content of the SoapBox. This forum is for "rants", so you get people saying provocative things (sometimes just to get a reaction). Speaking from my own experience (in Toronto): 1,5) The place where I eat lunch (about once a week) is owned/run by a muslim. He has a huge picture of the Kaaba covering an entire wall, and it doesn't really bother anyone, and his store is quite busy. That sounds like acceptance to me! 3) Everyone would let you express your point of view, regardless of what your point of view was. Freedom of speech is essentially never restricted here. 2) There is some tension between muslims and non-muslims after a terrorist act by a muslim. I think the general feeling (of non-muslims) is that not enough muslims denounce terrorist acts when they occur. It is obviously not the fault of all muslims when a terrorist act occurs, but I think it would help diffuse the bad feelings if more moderate muslims took it upon themselves to denounce the terrorists right after an attack (it's sort of like an argument with your spouse - even when you know it's not your fault, saying "sorry" can make things better ;P ) 1,4,5) I would say without hesitation, that if you: a) are a moderate muslim and do not endorse terrorism b) tell people you are a "moderate muslim and do not endorse terrorism" c) try to be friendly with everyone else you would be fully accepted. In general, people here will be very friendly to you, if you make an effort to be friendly to them. If you're friendly to them, people will not really care if you have a beard or not.


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                        • N Nader Elshehabi

                          Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                          Regards:rose:

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                          I used to live in an area with lots of moslems. All I can say is people can be jerks, terrorists, thieves, robbers, etc without being moslem. I do have friends who are moslem (my age, though) and they are well-behaved and rational human beings, compared to some other people I know. I'm a not-so-liberal Christian, btw. However, I'd still feel weird having bearded people around as a friend. It's just an age thing, I suppose.

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                          • W Warren Stevens

                            Don't judge all/any western countries by the content of the SoapBox. This forum is for "rants", so you get people saying provocative things (sometimes just to get a reaction). Speaking from my own experience (in Toronto): 1,5) The place where I eat lunch (about once a week) is owned/run by a muslim. He has a huge picture of the Kaaba covering an entire wall, and it doesn't really bother anyone, and his store is quite busy. That sounds like acceptance to me! 3) Everyone would let you express your point of view, regardless of what your point of view was. Freedom of speech is essentially never restricted here. 2) There is some tension between muslims and non-muslims after a terrorist act by a muslim. I think the general feeling (of non-muslims) is that not enough muslims denounce terrorist acts when they occur. It is obviously not the fault of all muslims when a terrorist act occurs, but I think it would help diffuse the bad feelings if more moderate muslims took it upon themselves to denounce the terrorists right after an attack (it's sort of like an argument with your spouse - even when you know it's not your fault, saying "sorry" can make things better ;P ) 1,4,5) I would say without hesitation, that if you: a) are a moderate muslim and do not endorse terrorism b) tell people you are a "moderate muslim and do not endorse terrorism" c) try to be friendly with everyone else you would be fully accepted. In general, people here will be very friendly to you, if you make an effort to be friendly to them. If you're friendly to them, people will not really care if you have a beard or not.


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                            Nader Elshehabi
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                            Hello Thank you Warren for your kind reply. I'm friendly by nature, so I think that won't be much of an issue. Your reply was really a relief to me. You don't know how much I appreciate it:-D. Nice site you hace there BTW.

                            Extra Regards:rose:

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                              I used to live in an area with lots of moslems. All I can say is people can be jerks, terrorists, thieves, robbers, etc without being moslem. I do have friends who are moslem (my age, though) and they are well-behaved and rational human beings, compared to some other people I know. I'm a not-so-liberal Christian, btw. However, I'd still feel weird having bearded people around as a friend. It's just an age thing, I suppose.

                              "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia

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                              Nader Elshehabi
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                              Hello Thanks for your nice reply Edbert. It means a lot to me.

                              Edbert P wrote:

                              I'd still feel weird having bearded people around as a friend. It's just an age thing, I suppose.

                              I'm younger than you by 3 years BTW.;P

                              Regards:rose:

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                              • N Nader Elshehabi

                                Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                                Regards:rose:

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                                Dont you think you are asking from wrong people? You better send this questionaire to concerned Embassy.:rolleyes:

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                                • N Nader Elshehabi

                                  Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                                  Regards:rose:

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                                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                  1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?

                                  Well friendship only comes once you know a person for a length of time, but I'd have no problem with the other two.

                                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                  2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?

                                  Only if you knew about it before hand and didn't do anything to stop it

                                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                  Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?

                                  Of course, everybody is entitled to their views - just don't ram your beliefs down my throat as if they are the one true way (that goes for all religious people)

                                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                  Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?

                                  No. But then I don't trust anybody.

                                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                  5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                                  No. I'd wonder why an intelligent person in the 21st century could still believe in that kind of stuff but then again, I'd say the same about most other religions.

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                                  • N Nader Elshehabi

                                    Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                                    Regards:rose:

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                                    1 - Depends on how cool you are. :cool: 2 - If not proven ?? Of course not. 3 - If you haven't done anything wrong, you wouldn't have to do that. 4 - Of course, to a certain limit. I mean, if my wife and I stand on a very high bridge and she says: "Jump, trust me it's ok." I'd probably be a bit _dis_trusting. 5 - No, you can believe anything you want as long as you don't enforce it to others. Essentially it's not Moslims, Christians, Jews, ... it's about being an extremist or a moderate guy in the things you do/believe in.

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                                    • N Nader Elshehabi

                                      Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                                      Regards:rose:

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                                      1. Yes. 2. Yes. 3. Definitely! 4. Trust is earned, as with anyone. :) 5. Certainly not!

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                                      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                        Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                                        there are no gods

                                        How true. There can only be one. :)


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                                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                        There can only be one

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                                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

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                                          You missed off the n.

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                                          Clever :)

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