Shooting animals
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brianwelsch wrote:
Surely your not comparing hunting birds with hunting people, that'd just be idiotic, so I must have missed something.
Yes, my dry sarcasm. :-D I was trying to point out the absurdity of his post as his article talks about the "economic benefits" of shooting (the same ones I parodied in my response) Unfortunately, the study in the article is strongly biased as it is funded/written by pro-shooting groups so the conclusions were (a priori) what they wanted to communicate.
:-O Man, I usually get that too. I swear someone mixed decaf beans in with the regular this morning.
BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]
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:-O Man, I usually get that too. I swear someone mixed decaf beans in with the regular this morning.
BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wrightbrianwelsch wrote:
Man, I usually get that too. I swear someone mixed decaf beans in with the regular this morning.
I have that problem too.
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brianwelsch wrote:
Surely your not comparing hunting birds with hunting people, that'd just be idiotic, so I must have missed something.
Yes, my dry sarcasm. :-D I was trying to point out the absurdity of his post as his article talks about the "economic benefits" of shooting (the same ones I parodied in my response) Unfortunately, the study in the article is strongly biased as it is funded/written by pro-shooting groups so the conclusions were (a priori) what they wanted to communicate.
What's worse, these scurroulous organisations employ independant bodies to do their research for them, hence adding false credance to ridiculous conclusions such as that spending hundreds of millions of pounds on nature conservation benefits the environment. Sickening. We should all listen to people like Thealj, who are clearly independant on the issue.
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It depends on what you shoot, and when.
We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate
I've been twice and shot one pheasant. It was at about 3.00 pm
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I've been twice and shot one pheasant. It was at about 3.00 pm
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:
It was at about 3.00 pm
I was rather refering to the period of the year, like the reproduction period for instance.
We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate
Pheasant season is in the autumn (I was taking the mick about the 3.00 bit)
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Pheasant season is in the autumn (I was taking the mick about the 3.00 bit)
Ah, ok. So as long as you didn't use a fragmentation hand grenade or shoot close to habitations/people and if pheasants are not an endangered species, I have no problem with your shooting.
We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate
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I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]
Most of the people hunt, because of the lack of availability of other food:laugh: (I doubt so). Since the civilization has not been progressed much from that of stone ages,hunting for food is still there in some parts of the world.And they would always say strane theories of animal population control.But they are forgetting that these hunting crazy people would not leave even carnivoures like lion or tigers.So the natural population control system of the nature gets affected. For some others hunting is just for testing their shooting skills. Human beings are created for ruling the earth.So he can do anything.right?
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Ah, ok. So as long as you didn't use a fragmentation hand grenade or shoot close to habitations/people and if pheasants are not an endangered species, I have no problem with your shooting.
We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate
K(arl) wrote:
So as long as you didn't use a fragmentation hand grenade
Those are for fishing!
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
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I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]
Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:
I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place
Does he know? He might even be my cousin, they keep pheasants and organise shoots as a side business in your part of the world and their game keeper is not very accomidating to poachers :)
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I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]
Do you eat it? I can't see the point to ending the life of an animal for no reason other then target practice.
Steve
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I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]
I live in a state where people come from all over the world to hunt pheasant, deer, turkey, cougars, ducks, geese, fish and I'm sure a few more animals that I'm missing. Yes, it makes our state a ton of money every year. On the first day of a hunting season (except fishing) the local news talks about how all the planes coming into the state are full, they have a full reception area for hunters, can buy ammunition at the airport (don't ask me how that one is legal...still haven't figured it out), and they even have a separate "luggage" area for dog kennel pickup. I personally find no satisfaction in hunting. However, many people I know eat what they kill (I think goose pate is gross but deer jerkey is good) so that to me is an added benefit for people because a couple of deer can feed the family for the winter. Our Game, Fish and Wildlife department take a lot of time in determining how many of an animal can be killed each season, and it can vary depending on the populations. Personally I think they could kill a few more deer as I almost hit one five times a winter, but I love watching the Canadian Geese on the lake I live on. Hunting is a way of life in the United States. For those who are descendants of the Homestead Act farmers, hunting has been passed down the generations. Here in South Dakota they have a traditional Native American buffalo hunt once a year. (Well, traditional if you take out the SUV's driving around.) As a lover of furry things (except my husband's back) I don't mind hunting as long as they are not using things that will create suffering for the animal. For example, hunting with a deer with an arrow and bow does not usually kill the animal immediately and it suffers needlessly. Just use a shotgun or rifle and get it done the first time.