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  • S Super Lloyd

    Even though I live in Australia now (and was born here, have the citizenship, etc... :-D ) I grew up in France and I feel a bit more European than Aussie.. Particularly I'm a happy atheist who view separation of state and church as very important. Now, following some (unfortunate :sigh: ) growing problem with kids (violence, suicide, etc...) the (Australian) government is going to give some financial grant to those school which have chapelin (any faith) in them :sigh: Ho, why, employ religious men again?!? In shool! Where the brainwashing danger is even greater! I'm tempted to say nothing good never came out of religion. But let's be politically correct and let's just say what about consellor? diplomed psychologist? Hey that would even give some job to those who study psychology! Well, just expressing my affliction at seing years of progress and enlightenment so quickly and lightly dismissed... :sigh: -- moved by Ed at 8:45 Monday 30th October, 2006

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    I tell you I almost called up Johnny and complained myself. Despite the outrage I feel towards this decision i fell i am obligated to inform you that this post is better suited to the Soap Box. But still, I hate the fact that a Chaplin could be hired in place of a qualified councilor. :mad: *So angry it hurts*

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      I tell you I almost called up Johnny and complained myself. Despite the outrage I feel towards this decision i fell i am obligated to inform you that this post is better suited to the Soap Box. But still, I hate the fact that a Chaplin could be hired in place of a qualified councilor. :mad: *So angry it hurts*

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      Super Lloyd
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      Bradml wrote:

      Despite the outrage I feel towards this decision i fell i am obligated to inform you that this post is better suited to the Soap Box.

      Hmm... right, I will move it. Glad to see I'm not the only one to be ... aghast! [Edit] ( I don't know how to move it to the soap box... :sigh: )

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      • S Super Lloyd

        Even though I live in Australia now (and was born here, have the citizenship, etc... :-D ) I grew up in France and I feel a bit more European than Aussie.. Particularly I'm a happy atheist who view separation of state and church as very important. Now, following some (unfortunate :sigh: ) growing problem with kids (violence, suicide, etc...) the (Australian) government is going to give some financial grant to those school which have chapelin (any faith) in them :sigh: Ho, why, employ religious men again?!? In shool! Where the brainwashing danger is even greater! I'm tempted to say nothing good never came out of religion. But let's be politically correct and let's just say what about consellor? diplomed psychologist? Hey that would even give some job to those who study psychology! Well, just expressing my affliction at seing years of progress and enlightenment so quickly and lightly dismissed... :sigh: -- moved by Ed at 8:45 Monday 30th October, 2006

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        Super Lloyd wrote:

        consellor? diplomed psychologist?

        Here in the US, councelor, yes...but chances are a diplomed psychologist would not want to work at a school...after all, most of those guys bill by the hour (like lawywers) and a stay on their couch doesn't come cheap... Roswell

        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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        City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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          Super Lloyd wrote:

          consellor? diplomed psychologist?

          Here in the US, councelor, yes...but chances are a diplomed psychologist would not want to work at a school...after all, most of those guys bill by the hour (like lawywers) and a stay on their couch doesn't come cheap... Roswell

          "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
          Antonio VillaRaigosa
          City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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          RoswellNX wrote:

          Here in the US, counselor, yes...but chances are a diplomaed psychologist would not want to work at a school...after all, most of those guys bill by the hour (like lawyers) and a stay on their couch doesn't come cheap...

          In Aus most schools already have full time welfare and counseling staff.

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          • S Super Lloyd

            Bradml wrote:

            Despite the outrage I feel towards this decision i fell i am obligated to inform you that this post is better suited to the Soap Box.

            Hmm... right, I will move it. Glad to see I'm not the only one to be ... aghast! [Edit] ( I don't know how to move it to the soap box... :sigh: )

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            Only the admins can move it, I'm afraid

            -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

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            • S Super Lloyd

              Even though I live in Australia now (and was born here, have the citizenship, etc... :-D ) I grew up in France and I feel a bit more European than Aussie.. Particularly I'm a happy atheist who view separation of state and church as very important. Now, following some (unfortunate :sigh: ) growing problem with kids (violence, suicide, etc...) the (Australian) government is going to give some financial grant to those school which have chapelin (any faith) in them :sigh: Ho, why, employ religious men again?!? In shool! Where the brainwashing danger is even greater! I'm tempted to say nothing good never came out of religion. But let's be politically correct and let's just say what about consellor? diplomed psychologist? Hey that would even give some job to those who study psychology! Well, just expressing my affliction at seing years of progress and enlightenment so quickly and lightly dismissed... :sigh: -- moved by Ed at 8:45 Monday 30th October, 2006

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              Step up on the soapbox and tell us how you really feel! Don't hold anything back... :)

              -- Verletzen zerfetzen zersetzen zerstören Doch es darf nicht mir gehören Ich muss zerstören

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              • B Bradml

                I tell you I almost called up Johnny and complained myself. Despite the outrage I feel towards this decision i fell i am obligated to inform you that this post is better suited to the Soap Box. But still, I hate the fact that a Chaplin could be hired in place of a qualified councilor. :mad: *So angry it hurts*

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                Ryan Binns
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                Bradml wrote:

                I hate the fact that a Chaplin could be hired in place of a qualified councilor.

                To be eligible as a chaplain, they must be qualified counsellors anyway...

                Ryan

                "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  Step up on the soapbox and tell us how you really feel! Don't hold anything back... :)

                  -- Verletzen zerfetzen zersetzen zerstören Doch es darf nicht mir gehören Ich muss zerstören

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                  I guess "soapbox" would be the keyword here ;)

                  Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Vista - Little Things

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                  • S Super Lloyd

                    Even though I live in Australia now (and was born here, have the citizenship, etc... :-D ) I grew up in France and I feel a bit more European than Aussie.. Particularly I'm a happy atheist who view separation of state and church as very important. Now, following some (unfortunate :sigh: ) growing problem with kids (violence, suicide, etc...) the (Australian) government is going to give some financial grant to those school which have chapelin (any faith) in them :sigh: Ho, why, employ religious men again?!? In shool! Where the brainwashing danger is even greater! I'm tempted to say nothing good never came out of religion. But let's be politically correct and let's just say what about consellor? diplomed psychologist? Hey that would even give some job to those who study psychology! Well, just expressing my affliction at seing years of progress and enlightenment so quickly and lightly dismissed... :sigh: -- moved by Ed at 8:45 Monday 30th October, 2006

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                    Psychologists are basically secular priests, so you're pretty much endorsing the wholsale marriage of your government with your particular religious view. The Taliban did the same thing.

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                    • S Super Lloyd

                      Even though I live in Australia now (and was born here, have the citizenship, etc... :-D ) I grew up in France and I feel a bit more European than Aussie.. Particularly I'm a happy atheist who view separation of state and church as very important. Now, following some (unfortunate :sigh: ) growing problem with kids (violence, suicide, etc...) the (Australian) government is going to give some financial grant to those school which have chapelin (any faith) in them :sigh: Ho, why, employ religious men again?!? In shool! Where the brainwashing danger is even greater! I'm tempted to say nothing good never came out of religion. But let's be politically correct and let's just say what about consellor? diplomed psychologist? Hey that would even give some job to those who study psychology! Well, just expressing my affliction at seing years of progress and enlightenment so quickly and lightly dismissed... :sigh: -- moved by Ed at 8:45 Monday 30th October, 2006

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                      Amen :-D. I completely agree. I don't have anything against religion, but more often then not, religion is called upon as reason for hatred and violence.  So sad :sigh:

                      No hurries, no worries.

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                      • S Super Lloyd

                        Even though I live in Australia now (and was born here, have the citizenship, etc... :-D ) I grew up in France and I feel a bit more European than Aussie.. Particularly I'm a happy atheist who view separation of state and church as very important. Now, following some (unfortunate :sigh: ) growing problem with kids (violence, suicide, etc...) the (Australian) government is going to give some financial grant to those school which have chapelin (any faith) in them :sigh: Ho, why, employ religious men again?!? In shool! Where the brainwashing danger is even greater! I'm tempted to say nothing good never came out of religion. But let's be politically correct and let's just say what about consellor? diplomed psychologist? Hey that would even give some job to those who study psychology! Well, just expressing my affliction at seing years of progress and enlightenment so quickly and lightly dismissed... :sigh: -- moved by Ed at 8:45 Monday 30th October, 2006

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                        Little Johnny has to go. His policies when he first came to power were designed to balance a budget and to hell with the cost to society, but now his policies seem to be some weird attempt to emulate George W. That's not a comment on GW: what I mean is that Australia is so very different to the States and it feels like Johnny has forgotten that. It makes me sad. I just wish the opposition weren't so lame as to be unable to win elections that could so easily be won by anyone with a policy and an ounce of charisma. The petty infighting of Labour and the Democrats is almost as bad. Australian polictics are on a sad, sorry state at it's right now that we need someone with a brain and a backbone to get things back on track

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          Amen :-D. I completely agree. I don't have anything against religion, but more often then not, religion is called upon as reason for hatred and violence.  So sad :sigh:

                          No hurries, no worries.

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                          V. wrote:

                          I don't have anything against religion

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                          more often then not, religion is called upon as reason for hatred and violence

                          :laugh:

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                            Little Johnny has to go. His policies when he first came to power were designed to balance a budget and to hell with the cost to society, but now his policies seem to be some weird attempt to emulate George W. That's not a comment on GW: what I mean is that Australia is so very different to the States and it feels like Johnny has forgotten that. It makes me sad. I just wish the opposition weren't so lame as to be unable to win elections that could so easily be won by anyone with a policy and an ounce of charisma. The petty infighting of Labour and the Democrats is almost as bad. Australian polictics are on a sad, sorry state at it's right now that we need someone with a brain and a backbone to get things back on track

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            led mike
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                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            Australian polictics are on a sad, sorry state

                            You should move to the US everthing is soooooo much better here. :-D

                            led mike

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                            • S Super Lloyd

                              Even though I live in Australia now (and was born here, have the citizenship, etc... :-D ) I grew up in France and I feel a bit more European than Aussie.. Particularly I'm a happy atheist who view separation of state and church as very important. Now, following some (unfortunate :sigh: ) growing problem with kids (violence, suicide, etc...) the (Australian) government is going to give some financial grant to those school which have chapelin (any faith) in them :sigh: Ho, why, employ religious men again?!? In shool! Where the brainwashing danger is even greater! I'm tempted to say nothing good never came out of religion. But let's be politically correct and let's just say what about consellor? diplomed psychologist? Hey that would even give some job to those who study psychology! Well, just expressing my affliction at seing years of progress and enlightenment so quickly and lightly dismissed... :sigh: -- moved by Ed at 8:45 Monday 30th October, 2006

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                              Super Lloyd wrote:

                              Ho, why, employ religious men again?!? In shool! Where the brainwashing danger is even greater!

                              Hey, didnt you know, global warming is the new religion? http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_286440.html[^]

                              Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                                Psychologists are basically secular priests, so you're pretty much endorsing the wholsale marriage of your government with your particular religious view. The Taliban did the same thing.

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                                Red Stateler wrote:

                                Psychologists are basically secular priests, so you're pretty much endorsing the wholsale marriage of your government with your particular religious view. The Taliban did the same thing.

                                lol -- got my 5

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                                  Psychologists are basically secular priests, so you're pretty much endorsing the wholsale marriage of your government with your particular religious view. The Taliban did the same thing.

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                                  Red Stateler wrote:

                                  Psychologists are basically secular priests...

                                  So priests are basically religious psychologists?

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                                    Red Stateler wrote:

                                    Psychologists are basically secular priests...

                                    So priests are basically religious psychologists?

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                                    Therapy is, and has always been, one of their major roles.

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                                      Therapy is, and has always been, one of their major roles.

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                                      Vincent Reynolds
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                                      Considering that their training is -- and always has been -- focused on faith, liturgy, and keeping the collection plate full, I'd say therapy is hardly a major role.

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                                        Considering that their training is -- and always has been -- focused on faith, liturgy, and keeping the collection plate full, I'd say therapy is hardly a major role.

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                                        Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                                        'd say therapy is hardly a major role.

                                        Then you'd be wrong, as always.

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                                          Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                                          'd say therapy is hardly a major role.

                                          Then you'd be wrong, as always.

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                                          Red Stateler wrote:

                                          Then you'd be wrong, as always.

                                          In your world where facts are subjective, and your subjective judgments constitute fact, I suppose everyone who disagrees with you is wrong.

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