Patriotism Education
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Paul Selormey wrote:
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Jesus Christ loves people so much that he sends them to burn forever in hell?
Amos Levy wrote:
Jesus Christ loves people so much that he sends them to burn forever in hell?
Hell was not created for human. It was created for sons of disobedience. The sons of disobedience found a way to let something God loves (human) join, by letting them do what they did. Jesus Christ therefore came to give the human a chance to get out of this punishment. So as a human you have a choice, you choose between heaven and hell. I will say the choice is obvious, but not many people simply want to, preferring to "enjoy" the things of this world (sex, drinking, abortion, adultery...name them). I hope you! will make the right choice. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Amos Levy wrote:
Jesus Christ loves people so much that he sends them to burn forever in hell?
Hell was not created for human. It was created for sons of disobedience. The sons of disobedience found a way to let something God loves (human) join, by letting them do what they did. Jesus Christ therefore came to give the human a chance to get out of this punishment. So as a human you have a choice, you choose between heaven and hell. I will say the choice is obvious, but not many people simply want to, preferring to "enjoy" the things of this world (sex, drinking, abortion, adultery...name them). I hope you! will make the right choice. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Amos Levy wrote:
Jesus Christ loves people so much that he sends them to burn forever in hell?
Hell was not created for human. It was created for sons of disobedience. The sons of disobedience found a way to let something God loves (human) join, by letting them do what they did. Jesus Christ therefore came to give the human a chance to get out of this punishment. So as a human you have a choice, you choose between heaven and hell. I will say the choice is obvious, but not many people simply want to, preferring to "enjoy" the things of this world (sex, drinking, abortion, adultery...name them). I hope you! will make the right choice. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
I will say the choice is obvious, but not many people simply want to, preferring to "enjoy" the things of this world (sex, drinking, abortion, adultery...name them).
So enjoying sex dooms you to hell?
Amos Levy wrote:
So enjoying sex dooms you to hell?
We all know it is a permitted act between husband and wife, that is why we will not want to see the child engage in it - whether we are Chritian or not. Its abuse in the form of fornication, adultery, lesbian or gay is not permitted even in our so-called high societies like queens and kings. So, yes according to the Bible its abuse will lead you to hell. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Amos Levy wrote:
So enjoying sex dooms you to hell?
We all know it is a permitted act between husband and wife, that is why we will not want to see the child engage in it - whether we are Chritian or not. Its abuse in the form of fornication, adultery, lesbian or gay is not permitted even in our so-called high societies like queens and kings. So, yes according to the Bible its abuse will lead you to hell. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
preferring to "enjoy" the things of this world (sex
You don't enjoy sex? :laugh:
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
Tim Craig wrote:
You don't enjoy sex?
I use to have sex/fornicate until I became a Christian. Now, I wait for that special lady, and you know it I will make love to her ;P With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
So, yes according to the Bible its abuse will lead you to hell.
2 things 1: Enjoying sex is abusing it? 2: Jesus wont forgive this sin?
Amos Levy wrote:
1: Enjoying sex is abusing it?
With whom? your wife or stealing from someone who is/will be another's wife?
Amos Levy wrote:
2: Jesus wont forgive this sin?
Oh! he forgives all sins. We all know forgiveness is not a license to commit an act. When we confess our sins, He forgives us - By His Love. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Amos Levy wrote:
1: Enjoying sex is abusing it?
With whom? your wife or stealing from someone who is/will be another's wife?
Amos Levy wrote:
2: Jesus wont forgive this sin?
Oh! he forgives all sins. We all know forgiveness is not a license to commit an act. When we confess our sins, He forgives us - By His Love. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
Oh! he forgives all sins. We all know forgiveness is not a license to commit an act. When we confess our sins, He forgives us - By His Love.
Then how will this sin lead people to hell if Jesus will forgive it.
Amos Levy wrote:
Then how will this sin lead people to hell if Jesus will forgive it.
There is a little difference between living in sin and commiting a sin. If you are living in a sin, it has become your way of life and if you simply ask for forgiveness you will have nor repented and "may" not be forgiven. Lets take an example, you have a wife who is sleeping with another man and she says forgive me. Obviously you will not. However, if she stops the act (repenting) and ask for forgiveness you will (human may not, anyway), and may still have her as your wife. That is why the Christian life begin by repenting of your sins (God knows your heart) and asking for forgivess. Christians do commit sins, but He is faithful and just to forgive us. If you die in you sins, without repenting and asking for forgivess you might end up in hell, since you only have the chance to repent when you are alive. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Amos Levy wrote:
Then how will this sin lead people to hell if Jesus will forgive it.
There is a little difference between living in sin and commiting a sin. If you are living in a sin, it has become your way of life and if you simply ask for forgiveness you will have nor repented and "may" not be forgiven. Lets take an example, you have a wife who is sleeping with another man and she says forgive me. Obviously you will not. However, if she stops the act (repenting) and ask for forgiveness you will (human may not, anyway), and may still have her as your wife. That is why the Christian life begin by repenting of your sins (God knows your heart) and asking for forgivess. Christians do commit sins, but He is faithful and just to forgive us. If you die in you sins, without repenting and asking for forgivess you might end up in hell, since you only have the chance to repent when you are alive. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote:
There is a little difference between living in sin and commiting a sin. If you are living in a sin, it has become your way of life and if you simply ask for forgiveness you will have nor repented and "may" not be forgiven. Lets take an example, you have a wife who is sleeping with another man and she says forgive me. Obviously you will not. However, if she stops the act (repenting) and ask for forgiveness you will (human may not, anyway), and may still have her as your wife. That is why the Christian life begin by repenting of your sins (God knows your heart) and asking for forgivess. Christians do commit sins, but He is faithful and just to forgive us. If you die in you sins, without repenting and asking for forgivess you might end up in hell, since you only have the chance to repent when you are alive.
But how do you know all that is true? Is the Bible your only source of this information? There are many other books that try to explain what will happen after death (like the Koran or book of morman), how do you know that the Bible is true? Standard christian reasoning seems to be along these lines: How do you know God is real? Beacuse the bible says so. How do you know the Bible is true? Because God wrote it.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
There is a little difference between living in sin and commiting a sin. If you are living in a sin, it has become your way of life and if you simply ask for forgiveness you will have nor repented and "may" not be forgiven. Lets take an example, you have a wife who is sleeping with another man and she says forgive me. Obviously you will not. However, if she stops the act (repenting) and ask for forgiveness you will (human may not, anyway), and may still have her as your wife. That is why the Christian life begin by repenting of your sins (God knows your heart) and asking for forgivess. Christians do commit sins, but He is faithful and just to forgive us. If you die in you sins, without repenting and asking for forgivess you might end up in hell, since you only have the chance to repent when you are alive.
But how do you know all that is true? Is the Bible your only source of this information? There are many other books that try to explain what will happen after death (like the Koran or book of morman), how do you know that the Bible is true? Standard christian reasoning seems to be along these lines: How do you know God is real? Beacuse the bible says so. How do you know the Bible is true? Because God wrote it.
Amos Levy wrote:
Is the Bible your only source of this information?
My own life. Those you knew me before I became a Christian now trust me and those who I meet simply like me - to Jesus be the Glory, He gave me something special and He changed my life.
Amos Levy wrote:
There are many other books that try to explain what will happen after death (like the Koran or book of morman), how do you know that the Bible is true?
Both books acknowlegde the Bible. The Momons use the Bible, I have meet many of them, but prefer to add. Also, for the Koran, it seems asking a question is a bit difficult
"O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to
you, may cause you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and
on that account lost their faith." (Surah 5:101-102)."The Holy Prophet himself forbade people to ask questions ...so do not try to
probe into such things." (The Meaning of the Qur'an, Maududi, vol. III, pgs. 76-
77)"The prophet was asked about things which he did not like, and when the
questioner insisted, the Prophet got angry. (vol. 1, no. 92) The Prophet got
angry and his cheeks or his face became red. (vol. 1, no. 91) "Allah has hated
you...[for] asking too many questions." (vol. 2, no. 555; and vol. 3, no. 591,
Bukhari's Hadith commenting on Muhammad’s reaction to hostile questioners.)Amos Levy wrote:
How do you know God is real? Beacuse the bible says so.
No, many Christians read the Bible less than they really should (including myself). I know God is real, because He is real in my life. He heals me whenever I am sick, and I hardly think about hospitals. I am not afraid of tomorrow and will never insure myself against sickness (cancer or whatever). He provides my needs; I just cannot list them up -- the other day, I drove a long distance to church on a fuel that normally only takes me there. Coming back, I had no choice, I simply do not have the money to pay more fuel but you may not believe it I back home any fear, and when I started the fuel level started rising. Initially, I was doubting my own eyes, but finally gave up and started using even the heater - HE IS REAL. Now, I am back in money - I just do not like saving :(( I always feel somebody needs it.
Amos Levy wrote:
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Tim Craig wrote:
You don't enjoy sex?
I use to have sex/fornicate until I became a Christian. Now, I wait for that special lady, and you know it I will make love to her ;P With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote:
I use to have sex/fornicate until I became a Christian.
Starting to sound like Jeremy. :laugh: I was bad and now that I'm reformed I can tell you how bad you are.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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Amos Levy wrote:
Is the Bible your only source of this information?
My own life. Those you knew me before I became a Christian now trust me and those who I meet simply like me - to Jesus be the Glory, He gave me something special and He changed my life.
Amos Levy wrote:
There are many other books that try to explain what will happen after death (like the Koran or book of morman), how do you know that the Bible is true?
Both books acknowlegde the Bible. The Momons use the Bible, I have meet many of them, but prefer to add. Also, for the Koran, it seems asking a question is a bit difficult
"O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to
you, may cause you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and
on that account lost their faith." (Surah 5:101-102)."The Holy Prophet himself forbade people to ask questions ...so do not try to
probe into such things." (The Meaning of the Qur'an, Maududi, vol. III, pgs. 76-
77)"The prophet was asked about things which he did not like, and when the
questioner insisted, the Prophet got angry. (vol. 1, no. 92) The Prophet got
angry and his cheeks or his face became red. (vol. 1, no. 91) "Allah has hated
you...[for] asking too many questions." (vol. 2, no. 555; and vol. 3, no. 591,
Bukhari's Hadith commenting on Muhammad’s reaction to hostile questioners.)Amos Levy wrote:
How do you know God is real? Beacuse the bible says so.
No, many Christians read the Bible less than they really should (including myself). I know God is real, because He is real in my life. He heals me whenever I am sick, and I hardly think about hospitals. I am not afraid of tomorrow and will never insure myself against sickness (cancer or whatever). He provides my needs; I just cannot list them up -- the other day, I drove a long distance to church on a fuel that normally only takes me there. Coming back, I had no choice, I simply do not have the money to pay more fuel but you may not believe it I back home any fear, and when I started the fuel level started rising. Initially, I was doubting my own eyes, but finally gave up and started using even the heater - HE IS REAL. Now, I am back in money - I just do not like saving :(( I always feel somebody needs it.
Amos Levy wrote:
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Paul Selormey wrote:
I use to have sex/fornicate until I became a Christian.
Starting to sound like Jeremy. :laugh: I was bad and now that I'm reformed I can tell you how bad you are.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
Tim Craig wrote:
I was bad and now that I'm reformed I can tell you how bad you are.
I do not know how you interpret, "I use to have sex/fornicate until I became a Christian", which was an answer to your question to mean something like telling you "how bad you are". Why will you want to do that? If I have made the mistake of accusing you somewhere, I am sorry. This time, I do not think I did and please do not take it there. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
but finally gave up and started using even the heater
You don't know much about how cars work, do you?
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
Tim Craig wrote:
You don't know much about how cars work, do you?
No, as I have not done any studies into it. I will love some tips :-D With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Tim Craig wrote:
I was bad and now that I'm reformed I can tell you how bad you are.
I do not know how you interpret, "I use to have sex/fornicate until I became a Christian", which was an answer to your question to mean something like telling you "how bad you are". Why will you want to do that? If I have made the mistake of accusing you somewhere, I am sorry. This time, I do not think I did and please do not take it there. With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
You lumped sex with drinking, abortion, and adultery. It sure sounded like you were trying to make it sound like a major sin. I assumed you did it before you found "the light" because you enjoyed it. Now that you've converted, sex is suddenly bad. Typical of those who are "reformed" from anything. They become preachy about it hence the reference to Jeremy.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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Tim Craig wrote:
You don't know much about how cars work, do you?
No, as I have not done any studies into it. I will love some tips :-D With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
For one thing, the heater doesn't consume any fuel. It's just the equivalent of a radiator inside the car and uses waste engine heat that would be vented by the main radiator anyhow. If your gas guage goes up, either you were parked on a hill or were going up or down a hill when the reading changed or it's defective.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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You lumped sex with drinking, abortion, and adultery. It sure sounded like you were trying to make it sound like a major sin. I assumed you did it before you found "the light" because you enjoyed it. Now that you've converted, sex is suddenly bad. Typical of those who are "reformed" from anything. They become preachy about it hence the reference to Jeremy.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
Tim Craig wrote:
You lumped sex with drinking, abortion, and adultery.
First, I mentioned some and add "...name them". Second, in my fornication life I did all that and more like lie, even a 5-month twi-babe were aborted - meaning one leads to the other.
Tim Craig wrote:
I assumed you did it before you found "the light" because you enjoyed it.
When I reflect on it, I know I had hurt more people as I "enjoy" myself. For me and my friends it was more of a game, unfortunately not on "characters" that are virtual arts, but human with feelings. Getting it today and tomorrow was what matters the most, looking for the next "beautiful thing in town".
Tim Craig wrote:
Now that you've converted, sex is suddenly bad. Typical of those who are "reformed" from anything.
Repenting of an acts means you came to understand and realized it was bad. That is where the true repentance is, not because the Bible says do not do this or that.
Tim Craig wrote:
They become preachy about it hence the reference to Jeremy.
Naturally, we advice people we cared about not to repeat our mistakes and this is what happens when you become a Christian. If this is bad, it might even mean advising someone against something you "think" is bad is wrong - I hope this is not what you mean to say. With love, Paul. -- modified at 2:27 Saturday 16th December, 2006
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Tim Craig wrote:
You lumped sex with drinking, abortion, and adultery.
First, I mentioned some and add "...name them". Second, in my fornication life I did all that and more like lie, even a 5-month twi-babe were aborted - meaning one leads to the other.
Tim Craig wrote:
I assumed you did it before you found "the light" because you enjoyed it.
When I reflect on it, I know I had hurt more people as I "enjoy" myself. For me and my friends it was more of a game, unfortunately not on "characters" that are virtual arts, but human with feelings. Getting it today and tomorrow was what matters the most, looking for the next "beautiful thing in town".
Tim Craig wrote:
Now that you've converted, sex is suddenly bad. Typical of those who are "reformed" from anything.
Repenting of an acts means you came to understand and realized it was bad. That is where the true repentance is, not because the Bible says do not do this or that.
Tim Craig wrote:
They become preachy about it hence the reference to Jeremy.
Naturally, we advice people we cared about not to repeat our mistakes and this is what happens when you become a Christian. If this is bad, it might even mean advising someone against something you "think" is bad is wrong - I hope this is not what you mean to say. With love, Paul. -- modified at 2:27 Saturday 16th December, 2006
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
So you're basically saying you were irresponsible when you were sexually active. Didn't respect your partner? Probably didn't pay any attention to birth control? Probably didn't try to protect yourself or your partner from STDs? This doesn't make sex itself bad. Sex is a perfectly natural activity. You just have to show some responsibility about how you practice it.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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For one thing, the heater doesn't consume any fuel. It's just the equivalent of a radiator inside the car and uses waste engine heat that would be vented by the main radiator anyhow. If your gas guage goes up, either you were parked on a hill or were going up or down a hill when the reading changed or it's defective.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
Tim Craig wrote:
For one thing, the heater doesn't consume any fuel.
Hmmm, in a cold whether it depends on the state of your engine and zero effect is not accepted anywhere. You might wish to take a look at this[^].
Tim Craig wrote:
If your gas guage goes up, either you were parked on a hill or were going up or down a hill when the reading changed or it's defective.
Not parked, not climbing any hill, my car is just returned from the compulsory maintenance scheme here in Japan (that explains why I over-spent my budget, since they by law change any thing and you have to pay), it cannot be defective reading - its is simply the work of God (for I had nothing else that day but to pray). With love, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.