What's wrong with higher education?
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I just picked up my girlfriend from her geography class and she informed me that her professor last semester just failed a guy on a test for arguing that he believes that global warming is a natural occurrence. The part that gets me is that he was failed because of her personal belief, not whether he argued his point in geography. She argued about how she shouldn't have failed him on that which set off a 40 minute debate on global warming. She would spout off the CO2 levels, which was countered. The professor argued North Atlantic Current, which set off an ice age debate. yes the climate is changing, but that is natural and has occurred for millions of years. I just find it amazing that the professor is so willing to fail a person for putting up a view that is not her own, even if he has supported his claims with science facts also. I know the climate change is a touchy subject, even here, but it just seems unscientific to not allow differing opinions in a science class.
Zach
Zach Burnett wrote:
she informed me that her professor last semester just failed a guy on a test for arguing that he believes that global warming is a natural occurrence.
The professor announced this in class? Some other student told her this in class? If it's a story from some other student through the rumor mill, I'm not sure how much credence I'd place in it.
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What the hell are you talking about? Are you a communist? "Poo to everyone" that is an interesting quote that you used for your nation in nationstates. That describes you well.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
What the hell are you talking about?
Its a commoon saying.
Captain See Sharp wrote:
"Poo to everyone" that is an interesting quote that you used for your nation in nationstates. That describes you well.
Well poo to you too
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I noticed the same type of thing happening when I was in high school. Although I don't know of any teachers failing students because of there opinions you could definitely get in trouble for having a differing opinion than the teacher's. I was a very stubborn student especially with my math teachers. I would not comply with nonsense. I made it very clear what I thought, but not so much that I would get suspended, but there was a couple times I got suspended for not complying with orders.
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How on earth do you differ with a maths teacher ? Mine told us about Buddhism, but he didn't test us on it...
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Zach Burnett wrote:
she informed me that her professor last semester just failed a guy on a test for arguing that he believes that global warming is a natural occurrence.
The professor announced this in class? Some other student told her this in class? If it's a story from some other student through the rumor mill, I'm not sure how much credence I'd place in it.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance idiots like CSS.
Good point. It seems unlikely that a teacher would tell the class this, which makes it seem more like sour grapes.
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How on earth do you differ with a maths teacher ? Mine told us about Buddhism, but he didn't test us on it...
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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What the hell are you talking about? Are you a communist? "Poo to everyone" that is an interesting quote that you used for your nation in nationstates. That describes you well.
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Don't be an idiot. The saying is "Those who can do, those who can't teach" He is agreeing that the instructor is a dolt.
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Don't be an idiot. The saying is "Those who can do, those who can't teach" He is agreeing that the instructor is a dolt.
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Chris Austin wrote:
Don't be an idiot. The saying is "Those who can do, those who can't teach" He is agreeing that the instructor is a dolt.
:mad: HE DIDN'T SAY THAT. HE PUT ... IN PLACE OF TEACH.
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I just picked up my girlfriend from her geography class and she informed me that her professor last semester just failed a guy on a test for arguing that he believes that global warming is a natural occurrence. The part that gets me is that he was failed because of her personal belief, not whether he argued his point in geography. She argued about how she shouldn't have failed him on that which set off a 40 minute debate on global warming. She would spout off the CO2 levels, which was countered. The professor argued North Atlantic Current, which set off an ice age debate. yes the climate is changing, but that is natural and has occurred for millions of years. I just find it amazing that the professor is so willing to fail a person for putting up a view that is not her own, even if he has supported his claims with science facts also. I know the climate change is a touchy subject, even here, but it just seems unscientific to not allow differing opinions in a science class.
Zach
Anyone with a degree would have had his/her fair share of biased and stupid professors :sigh:
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Chris Austin wrote:
Don't be an idiot. The saying is "Those who can do, those who can't teach" He is agreeing that the instructor is a dolt.
:mad: HE DIDN'T SAY THAT. HE PUT ... IN PLACE OF TEACH.
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Sure - the issue is that most people have heard the saying, and you haven't. I don't see why it's a big deal, it's not like this means you've failed at life. But, his meaning was clear to most people here.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Anyone with a degree would have had his/her fair share of biased and stupid professors :sigh:
Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)Which makes me a lucky guy. I didn't even finish high school.
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I just picked up my girlfriend from her geography class and she informed me that her professor last semester just failed a guy on a test for arguing that he believes that global warming is a natural occurrence. The part that gets me is that he was failed because of her personal belief, not whether he argued his point in geography. She argued about how she shouldn't have failed him on that which set off a 40 minute debate on global warming. She would spout off the CO2 levels, which was countered. The professor argued North Atlantic Current, which set off an ice age debate. yes the climate is changing, but that is natural and has occurred for millions of years. I just find it amazing that the professor is so willing to fail a person for putting up a view that is not her own, even if he has supported his claims with science facts also. I know the climate change is a touchy subject, even here, but it just seems unscientific to not allow differing opinions in a science class.
Zach
Zach Burnett wrote:
I know the climate change is a touchy subject, even here, but it just seems unscientific to not allow differing opinions in a science class.
In science, unlike perhaps in poetry criticism, there are right answers and wrong answers. Science advances by consigning failed arguments to the dustbin. It also seems unscientific to accept the unverified complaints of a person who failed. Maybe the problem wasn't the conclusions reached. Perhaps the argument was complete crap, showing a basic lack of understanding of the relevant science. In my observation, standards in higher education have slipped to the point where you have to be pretty hopeless to fail anything. To elevate the complaints of one disgruntled student into a complaint about the state of higher education is ludicrous.
John Carson
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Chris Austin wrote:
Don't be an idiot. The saying is "Those who can do, those who can't teach" He is agreeing that the instructor is a dolt.
:mad: HE DIDN'T SAY THAT. HE PUT ... IN PLACE OF TEACH.
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Wow ... infer what you like
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How on earth do you differ with a maths teacher ? Mine told us about Buddhism, but he didn't test us on it...
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Study Probability or Random Number Theory? :rolleyes:
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I noticed the same type of thing happening when I was in high school. Although I don't know of any teachers failing students because of there opinions you could definitely get in trouble for having a differing opinion than the teacher's. I was a very stubborn student especially with my math teachers. I would not comply with nonsense. I made it very clear what I thought, but not so much that I would get suspended, but there was a couple times I got suspended for not complying with orders.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
there was a couple times I got suspended for not complying with orders.
So you were the same kind of disruptive ass in HS that you are here. Glad to see you're consistent. I guess that explains a big part of your ignorance. You were running your mouth instead of listening as usual.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance idiots like CSS.
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I just picked up my girlfriend from her geography class and she informed me that her professor last semester just failed a guy on a test for arguing that he believes that global warming is a natural occurrence. The part that gets me is that he was failed because of her personal belief, not whether he argued his point in geography. She argued about how she shouldn't have failed him on that which set off a 40 minute debate on global warming. She would spout off the CO2 levels, which was countered. The professor argued North Atlantic Current, which set off an ice age debate. yes the climate is changing, but that is natural and has occurred for millions of years. I just find it amazing that the professor is so willing to fail a person for putting up a view that is not her own, even if he has supported his claims with science facts also. I know the climate change is a touchy subject, even here, but it just seems unscientific to not allow differing opinions in a science class.
Zach
Would you pass someone who said "my personal belief is this pencil falls to the ground because it is madly in love with the earth"? Geography is science (even though some scientists will tell you otherwise). In science, personal belief is a utility but not a proof. If the person was failed for not adequately (scientifically) defending her point, that was the right thing to do. If the person was failed for not convincing the professor with a adequate defense, that's tough luck, try again. A bit weak on the professors side, but that's how science works. (And life. If you can't convince your boss of your business plan, your project gets cancelled as well.) If the professor fails you just because s/he doesn't want to hear, bummer. Still, don't argue excessively about grades. Final verdict: None with the given information.
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I just picked up my girlfriend from her geography class and she informed me that her professor last semester just failed a guy on a test for arguing that he believes that global warming is a natural occurrence. The part that gets me is that he was failed because of her personal belief, not whether he argued his point in geography. She argued about how she shouldn't have failed him on that which set off a 40 minute debate on global warming. She would spout off the CO2 levels, which was countered. The professor argued North Atlantic Current, which set off an ice age debate. yes the climate is changing, but that is natural and has occurred for millions of years. I just find it amazing that the professor is so willing to fail a person for putting up a view that is not her own, even if he has supported his claims with science facts also. I know the climate change is a touchy subject, even here, but it just seems unscientific to not allow differing opinions in a science class.
Zach
Firstly, you do, in fact, have to be pretty fucking stupid to believe that dumping billions of tons of a known green house gas into the atmosphere can be done with absolutely no concern what so ever on the possible impact it might have on the chemical signature of the atmosphere and upon the weather directly dependent upon that atmosphere. Or, for that matter, to say that merely because weather patterns are known to change naturally, that they are somehow magically impervious to similar changes as a conseguence of non-natural, man made, changes. Secondly, college professors are, or at least should be, somewhat like a judge in a court room. A judge is empowered to define what the law means, and a professor is empowered to define what an education means. Either one can make descretionary decisions based upon any number of considerations directly or indirectly related to the issue at hand.
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Chris Austin wrote:
Don't be an idiot. The saying is "Those who can do, those who can't teach" He is agreeing that the instructor is a dolt.
:mad: HE DIDN'T SAY THAT. HE PUT ... IN PLACE OF TEACH.
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John Carson
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I noticed the same type of thing happening when I was in high school. Although I don't know of any teachers failing students because of there opinions you could definitely get in trouble for having a differing opinion than the teacher's. I was a very stubborn student especially with my math teachers. I would not comply with nonsense. I made it very clear what I thought, but not so much that I would get suspended, but there was a couple times I got suspended for not complying with orders.
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Zach Burnett wrote:
I know the climate change is a touchy subject, even here, but it just seems unscientific to not allow differing opinions in a science class.
In science, unlike perhaps in poetry criticism, there are right answers and wrong answers. Science advances by consigning failed arguments to the dustbin. It also seems unscientific to accept the unverified complaints of a person who failed. Maybe the problem wasn't the conclusions reached. Perhaps the argument was complete crap, showing a basic lack of understanding of the relevant science. In my observation, standards in higher education have slipped to the point where you have to be pretty hopeless to fail anything. To elevate the complaints of one disgruntled student into a complaint about the state of higher education is ludicrous.
John Carson
John Carson wrote:
In science, unlike perhaps in poetry criticism, there are right answers and wrong answers.
Erm, I have to disagree. There are right and wrong answers in poetry criticism too.