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Hi i hav lots of c and c++ programming on TurboC++ 3.0 Now i wanna migrate to VC++ 6.0 being a beginner in win32 env. can anybody point me to some urls or give me some tips as how to start, which part to do first, etc. as there are lots of projects in its dialog box. Im confused wat to do first and where to search
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Hi i hav lots of c and c++ programming on TurboC++ 3.0 Now i wanna migrate to VC++ 6.0 being a beginner in win32 env. can anybody point me to some urls or give me some tips as how to start, which part to do first, etc. as there are lots of projects in its dialog box. Im confused wat to do first and where to search
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this is not a real answer to your expectations, but why starting with Visual C++ 6 ? the compiler is pretty old, and really far now from the C++ standard. If you can aquire i'd suggest to work with Visual Studio 2005, or at least 2003. another question comes in mind. why do you really need to migrate that legacy code, even from Turbo C++, if it does work already ? It sounds like a waste of time to migrate all the GUI specificities from one dev environment to the other
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Hi i hav lots of c and c++ programming on TurboC++ 3.0 Now i wanna migrate to VC++ 6.0 being a beginner in win32 env. can anybody point me to some urls or give me some tips as how to start, which part to do first, etc. as there are lots of projects in its dialog box. Im confused wat to do first and where to search
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Cmania wrote:
being a beginner in win32 env. can anybody point me to some urls or give me some tips as how to start, which part to do first, etc. as there are lots of projects in its dialog box. Im confused wat to do first and where to search
try http://codeproject.com/cpp[^] there are lot of resource for beginner
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Hi i hav lots of c and c++ programming on TurboC++ 3.0 Now i wanna migrate to VC++ 6.0 being a beginner in win32 env. can anybody point me to some urls or give me some tips as how to start, which part to do first, etc. as there are lots of projects in its dialog box. Im confused wat to do first and where to search
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Cmania wrote:
being a beginner in win32 env. can anybody point me to some urls or give me some tips as how to start,
Grab one of Petzold's or Schildt's books. They're great for starting Windows development.
"Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed" - 2 Timothy 2:15
"Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb
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Cmania wrote:
being a beginner in win32 env. can anybody point me to some urls or give me some tips as how to start,
Grab one of Petzold's or Schildt's books. They're great for starting Windows development.
"Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed" - 2 Timothy 2:15
"Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb
While Petzold's books are supposed to be good, Schildt's books are not very highly regarded in the C and C++ community. For example, when looking at the book reviews at accu.org[^] (the Association of C and C++ Users), most of Schildt's books are rated as "Not Recommended".
-- Marcus Kwok
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While Petzold's books are supposed to be good, Schildt's books are not very highly regarded in the C and C++ community. For example, when looking at the book reviews at accu.org[^] (the Association of C and C++ Users), most of Schildt's books are rated as "Not Recommended".
-- Marcus Kwok
Those are opinions, nothing more, nothing less. If a "not recommended" book actually helps someone, does that make it a good book or a bad book? It all boils down to what you need vs. what the book offers. Those reviewers you referenced might have been looking for "A" but the book(s) offered "B", thus they are "not recommended."
"Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed" - 2 Timothy 2:15
"Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb
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Those are opinions, nothing more, nothing less. If a "not recommended" book actually helps someone, does that make it a good book or a bad book? It all boils down to what you need vs. what the book offers. Those reviewers you referenced might have been looking for "A" but the book(s) offered "B", thus they are "not recommended."
"Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed" - 2 Timothy 2:15
"Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb
True, these are just the opinions of the reviewers, though often the reviewers are themselves experts in the field and thus are able to point out flaws that less-experienced people might not be able to notice. For example, when a new math paper/theory comes out, it must be peer-reviewed by other experts in the field, and not by random people who just happen to have a casual interest in math. However, in Schildt's case, it has been documented[1,2] that there are many factually inaccurate and sometimes blatantly wrong statements in his books, and much of the code he presents teaches bad style or dangerous practices. If someone is trying to learn, then he most likely will not be able to distinguish good practice and bad practice, and thus is likely to learn bad habits, which might never be corrected. So, take the reviews with a grain of salt. If someone is able to gain useful knowledge from a "bad" book, then that's great. However, if a person reads this book and then believes what he is doing is correct when there are much better, safer ways to do the same, wouldn't you like to know about it, and help people to avoid that mistake?
-- Marcus Kwok
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True, these are just the opinions of the reviewers, though often the reviewers are themselves experts in the field and thus are able to point out flaws that less-experienced people might not be able to notice. For example, when a new math paper/theory comes out, it must be peer-reviewed by other experts in the field, and not by random people who just happen to have a casual interest in math. However, in Schildt's case, it has been documented[1,2] that there are many factually inaccurate and sometimes blatantly wrong statements in his books, and much of the code he presents teaches bad style or dangerous practices. If someone is trying to learn, then he most likely will not be able to distinguish good practice and bad practice, and thus is likely to learn bad habits, which might never be corrected. So, take the reviews with a grain of salt. If someone is able to gain useful knowledge from a "bad" book, then that's great. However, if a person reads this book and then believes what he is doing is correct when there are much better, safer ways to do the same, wouldn't you like to know about it, and help people to avoid that mistake?
-- Marcus Kwok
Fair enough. I only read one of his books (dated 198x). I can't remember the exact title, but it was an awesome book filled with all sorts of neat stuff. Sparked my interest greatly.
"Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed" - 2 Timothy 2:15
"Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb
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Fair enough. I only read one of his books (dated 198x). I can't remember the exact title, but it was an awesome book filled with all sorts of neat stuff. Sparked my interest greatly.
"Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed" - 2 Timothy 2:15
"Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb
Cool. While I'm sure that not all of his stuff is bad (and one of the reviewers that rated his book as "not recommended" even commented that Schildt's writing style was very good), the issues that I have pointed out above have made me wary of his books. But, this is my personal opinion. You know what they say about opinions... they're a lot like a**-holes: everyone has one, and they all stink ;)
-- Marcus Kwok
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Hi i hav lots of c and c++ programming on TurboC++ 3.0 Now i wanna migrate to VC++ 6.0 being a beginner in win32 env. can anybody point me to some urls or give me some tips as how to start, which part to do first, etc. as there are lots of projects in its dialog box. Im confused wat to do first and where to search
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Ivor Horton would probably be the best book coming from Turbo C++ 3.0 since his "Beginning Visual C++ 6.0" book covers the language and command line programming in part 1, and Windows programming using MFC in the second half. It's still in print (or at least it was last I checked 4 weeks ago) For Win32, Petzold would be a good place to start your migration.