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  • R Rob Graham

    So, the is ExxonMobile funded research, which is published like GreenPeace's, also "probably unbiased"?

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    oilFactotum
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    I don't accept your theory that Greenpeace and Exxon are equivalent. Or that your use of the word funding is the same in both cases.

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      Red Stateler wrote:

      OK. Let me get this straight

      I wish you would. this is a real waste of time Person A: "I think that Greenpeace believes their research is unbiased" Person B: "Thats probably true." Person B is saying that he agrees with A that "Greenpeace believes their research is unbiased."

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      oilFactotum wrote:

      Person A: "I think that Greenpeace believes their research is unbiased"

      That's not at all what you said. You said, "You also claim that Greenpeace thinks their research is unbiased, which is probably true." Mine was an accurate quote and yours is a restatement. I'll just assume that you admit your folly, given the extent you're going through to restate what you originally said. You'll never admit it, though.

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      • O oilFactotum

        I don't accept your theory that Greenpeace and Exxon are equivalent. Or that your use of the word funding is the same in both cases.

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        oilFactotum wrote:

        I don't accept your theory that Greenpeace and Exxon are equivalent. Or that your use of the word funding is the same in both cases.

        Because you only consider the source. Typical leftist mindless drone...

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          I don't accept your theory that Greenpeace and Exxon are equivalent. Or that your use of the word funding is the same in both cases.

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          Rob Graham
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          I'm staggered. I think you said something intended as a reply, but i'll be damned if I can make one iota of sense out of it.

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          • O oilFactotum

            Great, you have basis for your claim in one instance.

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            Red Stateler
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            oilFactotum wrote:

            Great, you have basis for your claim in one instance.

            And where's the basis for "believing Greenpeace thinks their research is unbiased[^]"? :rolleyes:

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            • O oilFactotum

              I don't accept your theory that Greenpeace and Exxon are equivalent. Or that your use of the word funding is the same in both cases.

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              Ryan Roberts
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              oilFactotum wrote:

              Greenpeace and Exxon are equivalent

              Why? One exists to push an extreme anti capitalist / envronmentalist agenda (up to and including the banning of chlorine chemistry), the other to sell petroleum products. Surely it is obvious what answers either organisation wants?

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                Red Stateler wrote:

                Did I say "reviewed"?

                It has to be reviewed to be disproved.

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                Companies perform that research in conjunction with the FDA (which serves to help remove that inherent bias).

                They kept it secret.

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                Not just corporate whore

                Like I said, I don't buy your theory.

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                oilFactotum wrote:

                Like I said, I don't buy your theory.

                Unless it's Exxon. :rolleyes:

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                • R Rob Graham

                  I'm staggered. I think you said something intended as a reply, but i'll be damned if I can make one iota of sense out of it.

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                  Rob Graham wrote:

                  I'm staggered. I think you said something intended as a reply, but i'll be damned if I can make one iota of sense out of it.

                  It's amazing isn't it? And people wonder why I can't hold back calling him an idiot. He's like Ilion on tranquilisers.

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                  • R Red Stateler

                    oilFactotum wrote:

                    Person A: "I think that Greenpeace believes their research is unbiased"

                    That's not at all what you said. You said, "You also claim that Greenpeace thinks their research is unbiased, which is probably true." Mine was an accurate quote and yours is a restatement. I'll just assume that you admit your folly, given the extent you're going through to restate what you originally said. You'll never admit it, though.

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                    I have made myself perfectly clear. Your refusal to understand will remain your problem, not mine.

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                    • R Ryan Roberts

                      oilFactotum wrote:

                      Greenpeace and Exxon are equivalent

                      Why? One exists to push an extreme anti capitalist / envronmentalist agenda (up to and including the banning of chlorine chemistry), the other to sell petroleum products. Surely it is obvious what answers either organisation wants?

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                      Ryan Roberts wrote:

                      One exists to push an extreme anti capitalist / envronmentalist agenda

                      Exactly the theory I reject.

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                      • R Red Stateler

                        oilFactotum wrote:

                        Great, you have basis for your claim in one instance.

                        And where's the basis for "believing Greenpeace thinks their research is unbiased[^]"? :rolleyes:

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                        oilFactotum
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                        Why are asking me? Dan Bennett made the claim[^]

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                        • R Red Stateler

                          oilFactotum wrote:

                          Like I said, I don't buy your theory.

                          Unless it's Exxon. :rolleyes:

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                          oilFactotum
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                          Like I said, I don't buy your theory.

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                          • O oilFactotum

                            I have made myself perfectly clear. Your refusal to understand will remain your problem, not mine.

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                            oilFactotum wrote:

                            I have made myself perfectly clear. Your refusal to understand will remain your problem, not mine.

                            I agree you made yourself "clear". All you had to do was completel change what you originally said...And then say I was wrong! :laugh:

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                            • O oilFactotum

                              Like I said, I don't buy your theory.

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                              oilFactotum wrote:

                              Like I said, I don't buy your theory.

                              Yeah, I know...Unless it's Exxon. :laugh:

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                                oilFactotum wrote:

                                I have made myself perfectly clear. Your refusal to understand will remain your problem, not mine.

                                I agree you made yourself "clear". All you had to do was completel change what you originally said...And then say I was wrong! :laugh:

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                                oilFactotum
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                                You are indeed wrong. Every step of the way.

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                                • O oilFactotum

                                  Why are asking me? Dan Bennett made the claim[^]

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                                  oilFactotum wrote:

                                  Why are asking me? Dan Bennett made the claim[^]

                                  Which you then followed up with "which is true"...Then you spent another half dozen posts trying to convince yourself you meant to say that it was "true" that they "thought" there research was unbiased. So are you now going to say you didn't say that? :omg: Astonishing....

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                                    oilFactotum wrote:

                                    Why are asking me? Dan Bennett made the claim[^]

                                    Which you then followed up with "which is true"...Then you spent another half dozen posts trying to convince yourself you meant to say that it was "true" that they "thought" there research was unbiased. So are you now going to say you didn't say that? :omg: Astonishing....

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                                    I'm tempted to say that your continued trolling is astonishing, but it isn't.

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                                    • O oilFactotum

                                      You are indeed wrong. Every step of the way.

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                                      Red Stateler
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                                      oilFactotum wrote:

                                      You are indeed wrong. Every step of the way.

                                      You know...I'm almost convinced that you actually believe yourself. :laugh:

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                                      • O oilFactotum

                                        Great, you have basis for your claim in one instance.

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                                        Dan Bennett
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                                        oilFactotum wrote:

                                        Great, you have basis for your claim in one instance.

                                        It took a minute to find that. I suspect it would not be hard to find others.

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                                        • O oilFactotum

                                          Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                          One exists to push an extreme anti capitalist / envronmentalist agenda

                                          Exactly the theory I reject.

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                                          You think wanting to ban a element[^] is not extreme?

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