I saw "Fast Food Nation" yesterday
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The one to blame here is not Bush, it is the corporate culture that you have become. Anything for profit, whatever it takes. Bush is just a by-product of corporate America.
MP (2) wrote:
Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I'm pretty sure that is what we have always been. Anyone who doesn't like it, shouldn't live here.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Red Stateler wrote:
I went to McDonalds' website and found that in order to consume that much sugar, he would have to consume...
On the DVD release I saw, McDonalds admitted to having reviewed some of their worse products and had made changes as a result of all the publicty at the time.
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
On the DVD release I saw, McDonalds admitted to having reviewed some of their worse products and had made changes as a result of all the publicty at the time.
Yeah, because they feared cigarette-style, multi-billion dollar lawsuits. Check out the amount of sugar he said he consumed. It's a "fact" listed at the end of the movie. The math simply doesn't add up.
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If you don't agree with what is in the movie, then you can keep on your diet of daily Mickey's Big One.
I love how easily people can be brainwashed by a movie nowadays. I talked about 'An Inconvenient Truth' with someone who literally told me 'I don't care about facts, I only care about what I saw'.
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The one to blame here is not Bush, it is the corporate culture that you have become. Anything for profit, whatever it takes. Bush is just a by-product of corporate America.
MP (2) wrote:
The one to blame here is not Bush, it is the corporate culture that you have become. Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I don't think the U.S. is alone in this.
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MP (2) wrote:
The one to blame here is not Bush, it is the corporate culture that you have become. Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I don't think the U.S. is alone in this.
The Apocalyptic Teacup wrote:
I don't think the U.S. is alone in this.
But we certainly excel at it.
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David Wulff wrote:
On the DVD release I saw, McDonalds admitted to having reviewed some of their worse products and had made changes as a result of all the publicty at the time.
Yeah, because they feared cigarette-style, multi-billion dollar lawsuits. Check out the amount of sugar he said he consumed. It's a "fact" listed at the end of the movie. The math simply doesn't add up.
I really don't care what their justifications are, the fact is that they modifyed their product range in 'undisclosed ways' between him making the 'film' and it hitting DVD release in the UK. Magically salt and sugar levels both come down on most of their products. Your research cannot be held as conclusive due to that alone.
Red Stateler wrote:
The math simply doesn't add up.
Coming from you... :doh:
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I love how easily people can be brainwashed by a movie nowadays. I talked about 'An Inconvenient Truth' with someone who literally told me 'I don't care about facts, I only care about what I saw'.
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Yeah, typical bullshit. Saying somebody is brainwashed just because he agrees with what is depicted in a movie.
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The Apocalyptic Teacup wrote:
I don't think the U.S. is alone in this.
But we certainly excel at it.
Red Stateler wrote:
But we certainly excel at it.
I don't know, Switzerland does a damned good job at taking my money for their profit.
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I really don't care what their justifications are, the fact is that they modifyed their product range in 'undisclosed ways' between him making the 'film' and it hitting DVD release in the UK. Magically salt and sugar levels both come down on most of their products. Your research cannot be held as conclusive due to that alone.
Red Stateler wrote:
The math simply doesn't add up.
Coming from you... :doh:
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
Coming from you...
So then basically you're saying you blindly accept their claims...:rolleyes: Despite the fact that they never stated what he ate and the fact that the amount of sugar he consumed indicated that he intentionally overate...I mean REALLY overate. Why don't you just check for yourself?
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Regardless of what this journalist says, Subway subs rock. :cool: McGrease doesn't. :)
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MP (2) wrote:
Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I'm pretty sure that is what we have always been. Anyone who doesn't like it, shouldn't live here.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
I partly agree with this. A big part of the problem is that it is not contained within your borders.
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I didn't see the movie, but fast food, overeating and obesity are a global trend. It is not only in America and not only on the rich countries. This thing didn't happen before just because food was more expensive by then. Some months ago I saw a survey from World Health Organization saying that the number of overweight people has surpassed the number of undernourished in the world. The same is happening here in South America. Like any other animal, people are genetically coded to eat as much as they can and to not waste energy. This makes sense in a wild, Darwinian struggle for survival. But in a world with cheap food and machines to do all the hard work the results are obesity. Anyway, it is good to keep things in perspective: better obesity than hunger.
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This makes sense in a wild, Darwinian struggle for survival.
:doh: Did you have to bring evolution into this? What will the extreme-right do now? :badger:
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David Wulff wrote:
Coming from you...
So then basically you're saying you blindly accept their claims...:rolleyes: Despite the fact that they never stated what he ate and the fact that the amount of sugar he consumed indicated that he intentionally overate...I mean REALLY overate. Why don't you just check for yourself?
Red Stateler wrote:
So then basically you're saying you blindly accept their claims...
Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.
Red Stateler wrote:
Why don't you just check for yourself?
Because it was a shit film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?
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I love how easily people can be brainwashed by a movie nowadays. I talked about 'An Inconvenient Truth' with someone who literally told me 'I don't care about facts, I only care about what I saw'.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed. You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.
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MP (2) wrote:
The one to blame here is not Bush, it is the corporate culture that you have become. Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I don't think the U.S. is alone in this.
I was watching Comedy Central's 'Axis of Evil' comedy tour which had three Palestinians and an Iranian. One talked about how he visited his cousing in Jordan and the cousin was going off about America yet driving by Mc'Ds, KFC, Starbucks, etc. The comedian says that if America goes down, we're taking this (all the American chains) with us. The cousin was upset and wanted to destroy America, but leave the restaurants--except KFC. Anyhow, if you are able to view the show, it's quite funny all around.
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Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed. You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.
MP (2) wrote:
Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed.
True. But, it's rare for any movie to provide an unbiased view. Anyone who agrees with what a movie tells them 100%, with no caveats, is probaby brainwashed.
MP (2) wrote:
You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.
To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.
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Red Stateler wrote:
So then basically you're saying you blindly accept their claims...
Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.
Red Stateler wrote:
Why don't you just check for yourself?
Because it was a shit film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.
So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month? Hmmmmmmm.... OK.
David Wulff wrote:
Because it was a sh*t film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?
DVDs have scene selection, you know.
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I liked the movie. I think it is a good depiction of what America has become.
I think there are two things we need to remember: (I haven't seen the movie so I am not going to directly comment about it) 1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea. 2. People react to food differently. We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine. I know if I barely look at high fructose corn syrup I might as well get out the old pants that are now too large. So one person on a McD's diet may gain a ton of weight and another may barely notice a difference. All in all I think my first point is the 'duh' factor that people need to remember.
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MP (2) wrote:
Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed.
True. But, it's rare for any movie to provide an unbiased view. Anyone who agrees with what a movie tells them 100%, with no caveats, is probaby brainwashed.
MP (2) wrote:
You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.
To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Your initial reply did not reveal so much insight on the subject.
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Your initial reply did not reveal so much insight on the subject.
Fair enough - I am replying at work, during build times :-)
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