WTF! You're not going to believe this!
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Christian Graus wrote:
*grin* you're absolutely right. I do a lot of reading on the chemstry of attraction and also on brain differences between the sexes. I wonder how many relationships exist solely because of the attraction that comes about because there's sex going on. Or at least, how many relationships exist for a brief period on this basis, before the initial infatuation stage wears off.
What difference does a ring make?
Exactly. And with the rate of divorce... well, this institution isn't sacred and doesn't guarantee that the same minor brain damage being discussed won't happen anyway. Or what happens when people wait til their married, only to discover that they hate each other. The assumptions regarding marriage are just absurd. Nice idea, but only works sometimes.
This statement was never false.
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Exactly. And with the rate of divorce... well, this institution isn't sacred and doesn't guarantee that the same minor brain damage being discussed won't happen anyway. Or what happens when people wait til their married, only to discover that they hate each other. The assumptions regarding marriage are just absurd. Nice idea, but only works sometimes.
This statement was never false.
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whats the update on this - its been a day bryce
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whats the update on this - its been a day bryce
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Why? Is one allowed to encourage fornication in the Lounge, but not abstinence? That seems a bit one-sided...
My comment was largely in jest, but was perhaps not interpreted that way for which I appologise, yours seemed more provoative and likely to cause a soap box style discussion. I think linking rape to premarital consentual sex is ridiculous
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Casual sex, even if it is consensual, leaves the woman consciously or unconsciously feeling unsatisfied, used, betrayed, even abused.
But sex outside marriage is not necessarily casual. Are you suggesting that brain damage can be avoided by partaking in a ritual ceremony?
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A (girl) friend of mine just called me, and asked me to spend the night with her... WTF! ...I hope it's not a joke...
A couple had been married for a couple of years, still at the honeymoon stage of the relationship. It was the guys birthday and his wife did not give him anything that morning, but told him he was going to get something very special if he could be patient. Thrilled and excited he was patient, but thinking all day what she was going to do. When he came home, she only smiled and escorted him into the back room and said it was still too soon, that he would get a wonderful surprise if he could be patient. She smiled slyly and slipped back out the door closing it behind him. The husband quickly undressed and standing naked waited for his wife to come back. She gently said through the door, "you can come out now." And he through the door open standing stark naked in front of all his friends and family and a very embarrassed wife. the moral: don't count your chickens before they are hatched. :) or don't get undressed before your wife, not sure which....
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A (girl) friend of mine just called me, and asked me to spend the night with her... WTF! ...I hope it's not a joke...
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Christian Graus wrote:
*grin* you're absolutely right. I do a lot of reading on the chemstry of attraction and also on brain differences between the sexes. I wonder how many relationships exist solely because of the attraction that comes about because there's sex going on. Or at least, how many relationships exist for a brief period on this basis, before the initial infatuation stage wears off.
What difference does a ring make?
None at all. I just mean that in general, a relationship shouldn't move too quickly to incuding sex. The ring is irrelevant, in those terms, and in terms of my post. I suspect I inherited the association from Negus, and while that's how I live *my* life, I meant it more broadly, that people who have sex too quickly, build bad relationships. My sister in law does it all the time.
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Yes, I was surprised to see all the encouragement here. Unless there is a serious relationship between the two I fail to see the relevance in such an affair - I'm not religious (you know that), but I think these kinds of things shouldn't be taken so lightly. This is how we end up with the spread of disease and children born into broken homes. I strongly discourage this kind of thing. (Formerly the Apocalyptic Teacup)
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What happened to the teacup? :-D
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None at all. I just mean that in general, a relationship shouldn't move too quickly to incuding sex. The ring is irrelevant, in those terms, and in terms of my post. I suspect I inherited the association from Negus, and while that's how I live *my* life, I meant it more broadly, that people who have sex too quickly, build bad relationships. My sister in law does it all the time.
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It was the brain damage thing that really got me. I agree that any sexual encounter can have emotional impact but to suggest that brain damage, which to me implies physical damage to the brain, can result from sex is absurd. Its the kind of thing ignorant parents would tell a chiild in the hope of influencing their desicions through fear. My other favorite is "drugs will kill you". One day the kid has a puff on a joint, doesnt die, realises their parents lied and doesnt understand that the statement may well be true of other drugs so continues to experiment with harder drugs
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It was the brain damage thing that really got me. I agree that any sexual encounter can have emotional impact but to suggest that brain damage, which to me implies physical damage to the brain, can result from sex is absurd. Its the kind of thing ignorant parents would tell a chiild in the hope of influencing their desicions through fear. My other favorite is "drugs will kill you". One day the kid has a puff on a joint, doesnt die, realises their parents lied and doesnt understand that the statement may well be true of other drugs so continues to experiment with harder drugs
Josh Gray wrote:
It was the brain damage thing that really got me. I agree that any sexual encounter can have emotional impact but to suggest that brain damage, which to me implies physical damage to the brain, can result from sex is absurd.
He did not imply to tell that there might be a physical damage to the brain. One such relation involving physical intimacy too quickly would create a psychological bond with the person whom you are involved. That bond cannot be broken so easily. Breaking it may result in a condition of hyper stress, depression, etc., This is how I understood it.
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It was the brain damage thing that really got me. I agree that any sexual encounter can have emotional impact but to suggest that brain damage, which to me implies physical damage to the brain, can result from sex is absurd. Its the kind of thing ignorant parents would tell a chiild in the hope of influencing their desicions through fear. My other favorite is "drugs will kill you". One day the kid has a puff on a joint, doesnt die, realises their parents lied and doesnt understand that the statement may well be true of other drugs so continues to experiment with harder drugs
Josh Gray wrote:
but to suggest that brain damage, which to me implies physical damage to the brain, can result from sex is absurd
I guess you need to take it in context. Sex does alter your brain chemistry and in particular, the association you have with the person in question. Falling in love is a form of temporary insanity, by any standard. However, if you didn't understand the science, and the caveats with which that statement is 'kind of' true, then yes, it's an absurd statement, taken at face value.
Josh Gray wrote:
My other favorite is "drugs will kill you".
Yeah, my parents obvious ignorance was one reason I ignored all their advice. I'll be far more truthful with my kids, but then, I have the experience that will allow me to be.
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Josh Gray wrote:
It was the brain damage thing that really got me. I agree that any sexual encounter can have emotional impact but to suggest that brain damage, which to me implies physical damage to the brain, can result from sex is absurd.
He did not imply to tell that there might be a physical damage to the brain. One such relation involving physical intimacy too quickly would create a psychological bond with the person whom you are involved. That bond cannot be broken so easily. Breaking it may result in a condition of hyper stress, depression, etc., This is how I understood it.
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WTF is right... WTF are you still doing at home posting about it?
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I don't believe in the brain damage part, but breaking up can cause serious stress, possibly resulting in psychological symptoms. I do take relationships very seriously. I was tormented when my father left when I was 9 years old. I actually spent 1 year in serious therapy (I am talking full-time therapy in a mental institution for kids here). I could never ever inflict that kind of damage to a woman I love or my (yet-to-come) children. I do not concur with the religious stuff, though. If two girls are happy with each other, let them be. If two guys are happy with each other, good for them. If two girls and a guy want to live together, go ahead. I just think that everyone should take their partner seriously, and live in a mutually beneficial relationship. For me: If I do not love someone, I will not have sex with them. I takes time for a relationship to ripen, and - in my opinion - having sex first thing on the first date is worse than waiting some weeks or months.
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A (girl) friend of mine just called me, and asked me to spend the night with her... WTF! ...I hope it's not a joke...
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A couple had been married for a couple of years, still at the honeymoon stage of the relationship. It was the guys birthday and his wife did not give him anything that morning, but told him he was going to get something very special if he could be patient. Thrilled and excited he was patient, but thinking all day what she was going to do. When he came home, she only smiled and escorted him into the back room and said it was still too soon, that he would get a wonderful surprise if he could be patient. She smiled slyly and slipped back out the door closing it behind him. The husband quickly undressed and standing naked waited for his wife to come back. She gently said through the door, "you can come out now." And he through the door open standing stark naked in front of all his friends and family and a very embarrassed wife. the moral: don't count your chickens before they are hatched. :) or don't get undressed before your wife, not sure which....
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Religion has absolutely nothing to do with my interest in the science of brain chemistry, nor does that science particularly endorse ( or otherwise ) my beliefs.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Religion has absolutely nothing to do with my interest in the science of brain chemistry
I was talking about the 'extramarital sex is Good/Evil' thing.
Cheers, Vikram.
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5. The only sensible response I've seen.
Rob Graham wrote:
The only sensible response I've seen.
You mean mine was worthless? :(( ;)
Cheers, Vikram.
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