The rich get... less traffic?
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An idea of reducing traffic by charging motorists who drive into the heart of Manhattan got Mayor Michael Bloomberg's support Friday.[^] "Using economics to influence public behavior is something this country is built on — it's called capitalism," Bloomberg said. :doh:
How the hell is anyone going to charge these people when they drive through there? I think that is a lame idea. It will only redirect traffic to roads that are not built to handle that extra traffic it would receive. Also, what about the people who must drive into the heart of Manhattan? I'm sure the cost to them would be staggering. Its ridiculous if you ask me, its ridiculous regardless.
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How the hell is anyone going to charge these people when they drive through there? I think that is a lame idea. It will only redirect traffic to roads that are not built to handle that extra traffic it would receive. Also, what about the people who must drive into the heart of Manhattan? I'm sure the cost to them would be staggering. Its ridiculous if you ask me, its ridiculous regardless.
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cameras. It works in London; they made it work. It forces people who do not have to drive in the city to have to find a better alternative. The kind of thing MUST be paired with better collective transports, the city will have to spend the additional money on public transports .
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An idea of reducing traffic by charging motorists who drive into the heart of Manhattan got Mayor Michael Bloomberg's support Friday.[^] "Using economics to influence public behavior is something this country is built on — it's called capitalism," Bloomberg said. :doh:
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Edmundisme wrote:
"Using economics to influence public behavior is something this country is built on — it's called capitalism," Bloomberg said.
Thats a problem?
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Raising taxes is capitalism? I don't think so...
Ian
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Raising taxes is capitalism? I don't think so...
Ian
Yes, but it is a consumption tax imposed by a local government. I hardly see how that represents an abandonment of capitalism. That just makes down town New York a network of toll roads. That concept is as old as the US. I see no problem with it at all. Of course, I've never been to New York City, and have no plans to go.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Yeah and controling peoples actions with threats and intimidation smacks of centrally controlled communism.
A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.
-H.L. MenckenNow, if we could just do something about the IRS! (Speaking of centrally controlled communism, threats, and intimidation)
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Raising taxes is capitalism? I don't think so...
Ian
Of course, if the roads were privately owned, they'd be free for all.
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Now, if we could just do something about the IRS! (Speaking of centrally controlled communism, threats, and intimidation)
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Is locally controlled communism, threats and intimidaiton better? :rolleyes:
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Is locally controlled communism, threats and intimidaiton better? :rolleyes:
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Is locally controlled communism, threats and intimidaiton better?
Yes. Most certainly. In fact, even I would admit that the smaller the scale, the better communism, threats and intimidation work. My wife openly practices them at home, and it seems to work fine. :~
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Yes, but it is a consumption tax imposed by a local government. I hardly see how that represents an abandonment of capitalism. That just makes down town New York a network of toll roads. That concept is as old as the US. I see no problem with it at all. Of course, I've never been to New York City, and have no plans to go.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I've never been to New York City, and have no plans to go.
Yes, one wouldn't want to visit anywhere that might challenge one's preconceived notions.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I've never been to New York City, and have no plans to go.
Yes, one wouldn't want to visit anywhere that might challenge one's preconceived notions.
I didn't say I wouldn't like to go, I just have no reason to.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Yeah and controling peoples actions with threats and intimidation smacks of centrally controlled communism.
A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.
-H.L. MenckenIts not a threat (you will get charged - no threat about it) :) It has worked in London. As a cyclist I found it was a double edged sword. The roads were quieter in general which was great on the way in to work when no one was in a hurry. However, on the way home was very different and the average speed seemed to go up dramatically. Let's face it. People don't want to make decisions that will impact the planet and society as a whole. I love all these surveys that report that people actually say they would be willing to do things that would be more inconvenient if it would have an affect on traffic, pollution etc. Unfortunately, I've not seen the result of the survey that asks the question "Ok ... when???". Of course the major problem with any of these plans that have a financial incentive in an attempt to force an attitude shift is that it ends up being a user pays scenario, where those with the means will continue to act as before and those without won't.
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