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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    It's amazing that it is still growing...

    -- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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    Ed Gadziemski
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    Simple minds seek simple answers.

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    • M MoustafaS

      ***k stupid people, like :-O (eou)


      About : Islam
      About : Me

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      Rob Graham
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      LongHC wrote:

      defiantly

      At least he's not so stupid that he advocates boycotting Denmark over some cartoons, as you do in your 'about:islam' link. You and your religion are small minded bigots.

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        Hi all, I really appreciate participating in your forum and will start my posting with new information. After the tragic attack on 9/11 and the war on terrorism, Islam remain the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society. http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/ http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10042001\_200110043.html "Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times,May 31,1996,p.3 http://www.themodernreligion.com/convert/am.htm

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        Christian Graus
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        If numbers prove a believe system to be right, then I think the athiests win.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        • M MoustafaS

          Read an accurate source about it, and you will defiantly know why is this.


          About : Islam
          About : Me

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          Suckers are born more frequently these days?

          -- Made From Meat By-Products

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          • C Christian Graus

            If numbers prove a believe system to be right, then I think the athiests win.

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            Nah.. we win because we don't have a message. :)

            -- If not entertaining, write your congressman

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              Suckers are born more frequently these days?

              -- Made From Meat By-Products

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              Christian Graus
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              I would imagine several possible causes: 1 - people disenchanted with the brand of Christianity they have experienced. I think a lot of non-mainstream Christianity grows for the same reason, because it's different to what people are exposed to via Xmas and the religion that used to be taught in schools. So, people try Islam because it's something different, and they are biologically predisposed to religion, and the religion they've tried, didn't work out. This is no guarentee that Islam will work out for them, long term, of course. 2 - the demonisation of Islam by the media and the Christian churches. Plainly most Muslims are not terrorists, and when people find this out for themselves, by meeting a Muslim, it will make them also question everything else they have been told.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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              • E Ed Gadziemski

                Simple minds seek simple answers.

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                That's the gist of it all, isn't it? I find no other rational explanation for religiousness. It's got to be sheer laziness. :~

                -- Torn from tomorrow's headlines

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                  I would imagine several possible causes: 1 - people disenchanted with the brand of Christianity they have experienced. I think a lot of non-mainstream Christianity grows for the same reason, because it's different to what people are exposed to via Xmas and the religion that used to be taught in schools. So, people try Islam because it's something different, and they are biologically predisposed to religion, and the religion they've tried, didn't work out. This is no guarentee that Islam will work out for them, long term, of course. 2 - the demonisation of Islam by the media and the Christian churches. Plainly most Muslims are not terrorists, and when people find this out for themselves, by meeting a Muslim, it will make them also question everything else they have been told.

                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                  I think it's because they breed like rabbits. :) I have never seen a muslim family which wasn't really big!

                  -- Made From Meat By-Products

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                  • R Rob Graham

                    LongHC wrote:

                    defiantly

                    At least he's not so stupid that he advocates boycotting Denmark over some cartoons, as you do in your 'about:islam' link. You and your religion are small minded bigots.

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    Let them boycott Denmark. They don't know what they're missing anyway. More for me!

                    -- From the Makers of Futurama

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                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                      That's the gist of it all, isn't it? I find no other rational explanation for religiousness. It's got to be sheer laziness. :~

                      -- Torn from tomorrow's headlines

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                      Patrick Etc
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                      Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                      That's the gist of it all, isn't it? I find no other rational explanation for religiousness. It's got to be sheer laziness.

                      Studies show a strong tendency for religious belief built into the human mind (a side effect of our ability to conceptualize, actually). A small percentage of the population don't possess that tendency; I think it is fairly common for those in that small percentage to be geeks.

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                      • M MoustafaS

                        ***k stupid people, like :-O (eou)


                        About : Islam
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                        LongHC wrote:

                        ***k stupid people, like (eou)

                        Who is (eou)?

                        There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                          That's the gist of it all, isn't it? I find no other rational explanation for religiousness. It's got to be sheer laziness. :~

                          -- Torn from tomorrow's headlines

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                          Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                          That's the gist of it all, isn't it? I find no other rational explanation for religiousness. It's got to be sheer laziness.

                          Probably more stupidity than laziness. "God did it" is probably the only explanation people like Gary Kirkham and Christian Graus are capable of understanding.

                          There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                            Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                            That's the gist of it all, isn't it? I find no other rational explanation for religiousness. It's got to be sheer laziness.

                            Probably more stupidity than laziness. "God did it" is probably the only explanation people like Gary Kirkham and Christian Graus are capable of understanding.

                            There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                            Have you noticed that I am ignoring your trolling on these boards ? If only others could do the same.

                            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                              I think it's because they breed like rabbits. :) I have never seen a muslim family which wasn't really big!

                              -- Made From Meat By-Products

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                              Christian Graus
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                              I guess it's also true that the survey in question wouldn't be able to tell conversion rates and rates of growth through breeding or through immigration.

                              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                Nah.. we win because we don't have a message. :)

                                -- If not entertaining, write your congressman

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                                Christian Graus
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                                *grin* well, I guess that makes your position easy to state.

                                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  *grin* well, I guess that makes your position easy to state.

                                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                  Actually, it's not always that easy. As an atheist, you're constantly under attack by theists. I'm not saying all theists are vicious, but some certainly are. That is the reason why there are atheists who are vocal (including myself). We refuse to be labeled as damned, evil, morally deficient, or whatever the popular religious concept is. The funny thing is that I cannot say "My position is X" - I have to say "My position is not A, O, Y, nor Z", due to the very nature of atheism. I make no claims, yet according to some, I do by not making claims.

                                  -- Deciphered from crop circles

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                                    Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                    That's the gist of it all, isn't it? I find no other rational explanation for religiousness. It's got to be sheer laziness.

                                    Studies show a strong tendency for religious belief built into the human mind (a side effect of our ability to conceptualize, actually). A small percentage of the population don't possess that tendency; I think it is fairly common for those in that small percentage to be geeks.

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                                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                    Patrick Sears wrote:

                                    Studies show a strong tendency for religious belief built into the human mind (a side effect of our ability to conceptualize, actually).

                                    Surely, religion was probably a tool to survive/procreate some time ago in our history. Evolution is a clear path through a sea of randomness. Somewhere in that sea, religion was a good paddle. I fail to see its relevance now though.

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                                    A small percentage of the population don't possess that tendency; I think it is fairly common for those in that small percentage to be geeks.

                                    I think geekness is a function of the logical part of the brain. I don't think religiousness has anything to do with geekness (I know there are religious geeks).

                                    -- Presented in doublevision (where drunk)

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      Have you noticed that I am ignoring your trolling on these boards ? If only others could do the same.

                                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                      Quote: Have you noticed that I am ignoring your trolling on these boards ? If only others could do the same. :laugh: Obviously not. If you were ignoring me then how did you manage to post a reply to my post?

                                      There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                        Actually, it's not always that easy. As an atheist, you're constantly under attack by theists. I'm not saying all theists are vicious, but some certainly are. That is the reason why there are atheists who are vocal (including myself). We refuse to be labeled as damned, evil, morally deficient, or whatever the popular religious concept is. The funny thing is that I cannot say "My position is X" - I have to say "My position is not A, O, Y, nor Z", due to the very nature of atheism. I make no claims, yet according to some, I do by not making claims.

                                        -- Deciphered from crop circles

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                                        Yeah, one thing that really troubles me is the idea that !Christian == Evil. Or, even, that showingUpToAChurch == Good == Chrisitan. And, I think the people who are vicious, see in you an embodiment of their own doubts. Why else would it worry them ?

                                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                          Quote: Have you noticed that I am ignoring your trolling on these boards ? If only others could do the same. :laugh: Obviously not. If you were ignoring me then how did you manage to post a reply to my post?

                                          There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                                          Christian is strange about religion, lol, He my be a Visual Basic MVP but he has no sense in the real world.

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