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Be Brave --- Tell Us All You Want to Lose in Iraq

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  • L Le centriste

    Without any consideration for the poeple who live there and has nothing to do with this?

    ----- Formerly MP(2) If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown

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    Rob Graham
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    Le Centriste wrote:

    Without any consideration for the poeple who live there and has nothing to do with this?

    You know, you're absolutely right. We should do all we can to move the battle to Canada, preferably Quebec...

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      Le Centriste wrote:

      and Republicans are exploiting them for oil.

      If we were in it for the oil, we would have gone after Venezuela. Not only do they have more of it, but they're closer, have nicer scenery AND they're communist!

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      Le centriste
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      Yeah, you're right. This one does not add up. I must rethink my argumentation.

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        Le Centriste wrote:

        Without any consideration for the poeple who live there and has nothing to do with this?

        You know, you're absolutely right. We should do all we can to move the battle to Canada, preferably Quebec...

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        Le centriste
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        We have electricity...

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        • R Reagan Conservative

          Those of you who are taking the stance that the US needs to exit Iraq in accordance with the Democrat timetable, please step forward and claim your allegiance --- if you want the US to lose the war in Iraq, please so state for all of us to see. It's time you show who wants to win and who wants to lose. C'mon, boys, step up to the plate. Here's your chance.

          John P.

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          Ed Gadziemski
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          We should have never meddled in Iraq in the first place. I want the Iraqis to get their own country back so they can have their damned civil/religious war and sort the matter out amongst themselves. Sunni and Shia have been fighting longer than Catholics and Protestants. Let's get out of their way and let Shiite Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia squabble over the remnants after their holy warriors slug it out.

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          • L Le centriste

            Without any consideration for the poeple who live there and has nothing to do with this?

            ----- Formerly MP(2) If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown

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            Le Centriste wrote:

            Without any consideration for the poeple who live there and has nothing to do with this?

            No more consideration than we have ever given to the innocent in any war we have ever fought. We have the right to defend ourselves and to take the battle to where ever the enemy is. The added benefit is that when we are finished, the Iraqis will be better off than they have ever been in their history. Just like the German's and the Japanese.

            Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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            • R Red Stateler

              Vincent Reynolds wrote:

              All we have to do now is find some way to make the internet suck...

              You're doing a pretty good job of that.

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              brianwelsch
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              A 1 vote? C'mon, that was funny. Vincent left that door wide open. :sigh: Some people are too serious.

              BW


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              Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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              • R Reagan Conservative

                Those of you who are taking the stance that the US needs to exit Iraq in accordance with the Democrat timetable, please step forward and claim your allegiance --- if you want the US to lose the war in Iraq, please so state for all of us to see. It's time you show who wants to win and who wants to lose. C'mon, boys, step up to the plate. Here's your chance.

                John P.

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                Lost User
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                Sadly I think it's a matter of lose quickly or lose slowly with more causalties :sigh:

                The tigress is here :-D

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                • R Reagan Conservative

                  Those of you who are taking the stance that the US needs to exit Iraq in accordance with the Democrat timetable, please step forward and claim your allegiance --- if you want the US to lose the war in Iraq, please so state for all of us to see. It's time you show who wants to win and who wants to lose. C'mon, boys, step up to the plate. Here's your chance.

                  John P.

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                  The democratic and republican parties and all of their fanboys to go away. The system of polarizing politics is broken and our country needs to be rid of status quo politics.

                  My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                    We should have never meddled in Iraq in the first place. I want the Iraqis to get their own country back so they can have their damned civil/religious war and sort the matter out amongst themselves. Sunni and Shia have been fighting longer than Catholics and Protestants. Let's get out of their way and let Shiite Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia squabble over the remnants after their holy warriors slug it out.

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                    Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                    Sunni and Shia have been fighting longer than Catholics and Protestants.

                    Any “exit strategy” announcement will likely include words along these lines…

                    Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)

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                    • R Reagan Conservative

                      Those of you who are taking the stance that the US needs to exit Iraq in accordance with the Democrat timetable, please step forward and claim your allegiance --- if you want the US to lose the war in Iraq, please so state for all of us to see. It's time you show who wants to win and who wants to lose. C'mon, boys, step up to the plate. Here's your chance.

                      John P.

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                      peterchen
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                      to win... what an interesting concept! I find it cowardish to leave the country in the mess you brought the Iraq into. But it's your 18 year olds dying there, and I can't weight their lives against thos of Iraquis. How would you define "win"? Even when discounting half of the news as badmouthing, it looks more like time to cut your losses.


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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        Le Centriste wrote:

                        Without any consideration for the poeple who live there and has nothing to do with this?

                        No more consideration than we have ever given to the innocent in any war we have ever fought. We have the right to defend ourselves and to take the battle to where ever the enemy is. The added benefit is that when we are finished, the Iraqis will be better off than they have ever been in their history. Just like the German's and the Japanese.

                        Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                        Le centriste
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                        I don't remember Iraq threatening the U.S.

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                        • L Le centriste

                          I don't remember Iraq threatening the U.S.

                          ----- Formerly MP(2) If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown

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                          Stan Shannon
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                          I don't remember anyone asking you.

                          Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                            I don't remember anyone asking you.

                            Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                            Le centriste
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                            I remember you having better arguments.

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                            • R Reagan Conservative

                              Those of you who are taking the stance that the US needs to exit Iraq in accordance with the Democrat timetable, please step forward and claim your allegiance --- if you want the US to lose the war in Iraq, please so state for all of us to see. It's time you show who wants to win and who wants to lose. C'mon, boys, step up to the plate. Here's your chance.

                              John P.

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                              We've been there how many years? and still people die in huge numbers every day. I guess the answer to your question depends on your definition of win. I dont see to many winners

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                              • V Vincent Reynolds

                                Red Stateler wrote:

                                I think not. I want a complex system of suction tubes.

                                Well, according to Ted Stevens, the internet is already a series of tubes. All we have to do now is find some way to make the internet suck...

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                                make the internet suck...

                                isn't that called online porn?? LOL

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                                • L Le centriste

                                  I remember you having better arguments.

                                  ----- Formerly MP(2) If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown

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                                  That was a brilliant argument. Your opinion or memory concerning whatever threat Iraq presented to the US is of no consequence. I can't say I was happy about the invasion for the stated purposes, but there was overwhelming sentiment from many diverse political quarters that it was an appropriate move and we made it. Now, al quida is fighting us tooth and toenail for every inch of it. I say that is a good thing. It puts us into direct military contact with the premier terrorist organization of this era. That is precisely the position we should want to be in militarily speaking. Granted, we need to stay on the offensive which would mean carrying the battle right on into Iran, Syria and Pakistan at a minimum. But I'll take what I can get.

                                  Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                  • L Le centriste

                                    U.S. had nothing to do in Iraq in the first place. As for the withdrawal, you have to consider what will happen after that. I think the goal here for the Democrats is that U.S. young people must stop dying there. I am by no way a Dem or a Rep. I don't need them to tell me what to think.

                                    ----- Formerly MP(2) If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown

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                                    Le Centriste wrote:

                                    I think the goal here for the Democrats is that U.S. young people must stop dying there.

                                    actually the goal for the dems is to gain power. they're using this as a way to manipulate people.

                                    Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                                    • C Chris Austin

                                      The democratic and republican parties and all of their fanboys to go away. The system of polarizing politics is broken and our country needs to be rid of status quo politics.

                                      My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                                      Chris Austin wrote:

                                      The system of polarizing politics is broken and our country needs to be rid of status quo politics.

                                      I'm all for that as long as you can define what you want to replace it wtih.

                                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                        That was a brilliant argument. Your opinion or memory concerning whatever threat Iraq presented to the US is of no consequence. I can't say I was happy about the invasion for the stated purposes, but there was overwhelming sentiment from many diverse political quarters that it was an appropriate move and we made it. Now, al quida is fighting us tooth and toenail for every inch of it. I say that is a good thing. It puts us into direct military contact with the premier terrorist organization of this era. That is precisely the position we should want to be in militarily speaking. Granted, we need to stay on the offensive which would mean carrying the battle right on into Iran, Syria and Pakistan at a minimum. But I'll take what I can get.

                                        Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                        Le centriste
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                                        I know it is of no consequence, because the other countries are too weak compared to you. So, you take whatever decision you want, without caring on the side effectes on the countries who do not want to be involved in it. The only reason Al-Qaeda is in Iraq is because you dragged them there, so they don't fight you on American soil. The problem is that thousands of innocent people are dying because of this. Far more than when Hussein was in power. -- modified at 18:54 Wednesday 2nd May, 2007

                                        ----- Formerly MP(2) If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown

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                                        • R Reagan Conservative

                                          Those of you who are taking the stance that the US needs to exit Iraq in accordance with the Democrat timetable, please step forward and claim your allegiance --- if you want the US to lose the war in Iraq, please so state for all of us to see. It's time you show who wants to win and who wants to lose. C'mon, boys, step up to the plate. Here's your chance.

                                          John P.

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                                          jparken wrote:

                                          It's time you show who wants to win and who wants to lose.

                                          Define "win". Heck, go ahead and define "lose" while you're at it. Try to pick something we're not dangerously close to already. Then estimate the cost, in money and lives, of achieving that "win", and we'll decide. 'Till then, it's all just a crass appeal to pride over prudence, a shameful way to run a country.

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