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    leckey wrote:

    I think all crimes are hate crimes.

    5. Not sure why you got voted down, leckey.

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    I think I have a few people who vote me down because it's me.

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      led mike wrote:

      I hope you had your pointy white bed sheet suit on when you posted this. I know it would increase your level of enjoyment.

      Can't let the script change now can we?

      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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      I don't know what you mean and I don't care. I have been around enough racists in my day to recognize one when I hear him. If it walks like one and quacks like one... As far as I can tell, the entire concept of racism is retarded and reveals the true nature of the person, retarded, mentally unbalanced, mentally handicapped, etc. At this point anything you say will be summarily dismissed.

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        I don't know what you mean and I don't care. I have been around enough racists in my day to recognize one when I hear him. If it walks like one and quacks like one... As far as I can tell, the entire concept of racism is retarded and reveals the true nature of the person, retarded, mentally unbalanced, mentally handicapped, etc. At this point anything you say will be summarily dismissed.

        led mike

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        Quote: I don't care ... At this point anything you say will be summarily dismissed. Then why did you reply to him?

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          Quote: I don't care ... At this point anything you say will be summarily dismissed. Then why did you reply to him?

          The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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          Sorry StringCheese, did I wake you up from your nap

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            Sorry StringCheese, did I wake you up from your nap

            led mike

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            You pathetic little John Simmons wannabe. You can't even come up with something new to try to insult me with.

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              I don't know what you mean and I don't care. I have been around enough racists in my day to recognize one when I hear him. If it walks like one and quacks like one... As far as I can tell, the entire concept of racism is retarded and reveals the true nature of the person, retarded, mentally unbalanced, mentally handicapped, etc. At this point anything you say will be summarily dismissed.

              led mike

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              Summarily dismiss this asshole: There is no such thing as race, there is only one human species and we are all members of it. Nothing I have posted here has been even in the most remote way "racist". What we do have in our society is a situation where evil non-thinking retards such as yourself are so desparate to have race as an issue that you will define any criticism of the script (ie - our society needs the socialistic left in order to be defended against white racism) as racism in order to maintain it. You're the racist. Blacks to you are nothing but a means to an end, no differnt than they were to the slave masters of old. You got 'em out on your little democrat plantation doing all the heavy political lifting for their new massa's You are incapable of honest debate. Oh, and you are also an idiot.

              Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                Summarily dismiss this asshole: There is no such thing as race, there is only one human species and we are all members of it. Nothing I have posted here has been even in the most remote way "racist". What we do have in our society is a situation where evil non-thinking retards such as yourself are so desparate to have race as an issue that you will define any criticism of the script (ie - our society needs the socialistic left in order to be defended against white racism) as racism in order to maintain it. You're the racist. Blacks to you are nothing but a means to an end, no differnt than they were to the slave masters of old. You got 'em out on your little democrat plantation doing all the heavy political lifting for their new massa's You are incapable of honest debate. Oh, and you are also an idiot.

                Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                Stan Shannon wrote:

                Nothing I have posted here has been even in the most remote way "racist".

                As I previously stated, I have been around enough racists to know one when I hear him. It's not at all surprising that you mistakenly believe you have crafted your posts in such a fashion as to hide your true nature. Also I see that since your argument fell apart you resorted to name-calling... again. (Reminder: in case you have forgotten that was something (D)espeir said only leftists do ;)... have a nice day skippy)

                "Christianity is not about tolerance"
                Stan Shannon in the Soap Box

                Christianity is about getting into heavan, and nothing else.
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                Thats because you're a f****ing leftist idiot.
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                And you worthless bastards are proud of that. You assholes just suck.
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                Being classy is for losers.
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                a coalition of hispanics, blacks, and white leftists.
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  Nothing I have posted here has been even in the most remote way "racist".

                  As I previously stated, I have been around enough racists to know one when I hear him. It's not at all surprising that you mistakenly believe you have crafted your posts in such a fashion as to hide your true nature. Also I see that since your argument fell apart you resorted to name-calling... again. (Reminder: in case you have forgotten that was something (D)espeir said only leftists do ;)... have a nice day skippy)

                  "Christianity is not about tolerance"
                  Stan Shannon in the Soap Box

                  Christianity is about getting into heavan, and nothing else.
                  Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                  Thats because you're a f****ing leftist idiot.
                  Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                  And you worthless bastards are proud of that. You assholes just suck.
                  Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                  Being classy is for losers.
                  Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                  a coalition of hispanics, blacks, and white leftists.
                  Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                  led mike

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                  You badly need to get off of whatever drugs you're taking while you still have a few brain cells left. What the hell is: the entire concept of racism is retarded and reveals the true nature of the person, retarded, mentally unbalanced, mentally handicapped, etc. if not resorting to name-calling?

                  led mike wrote:

                  As I previously stated, I have been around enough racists to know one when I hear him. It's not at all surprising that you mistakenly believe you have crafted your posts in such a fashion as to hide your true nature.

                  Somehow I'm actually pretty damn sure that any sort of criticsm of the script would represent "cafting my posts to hide my true nature". In fact, that pretty much is the script. Any intellectual opposition to the moral purity of the left must necessarily hid someone's 'true nature'. What a powerful way to stifle free speech. Oh, Brave New World! Can't win a debate - resort to calling your opponent a racist. It works every time its tried. My only real crime is that I am not afraid to be a heretic to the brave new age morality. You, on the other hand, are horrified by the prospect of not being seen as the new age man, who never question the status guo least he be deemed a 'racist'. I imagine you've had that drilled into you since gradeschool. You're certainly well trained. But, if questioning the politics of 'hate crimes' is all it takes to make me a racist, I wear the term proudly.

                  Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                    You badly need to get off of whatever drugs you're taking while you still have a few brain cells left. What the hell is: the entire concept of racism is retarded and reveals the true nature of the person, retarded, mentally unbalanced, mentally handicapped, etc. if not resorting to name-calling?

                    led mike wrote:

                    As I previously stated, I have been around enough racists to know one when I hear him. It's not at all surprising that you mistakenly believe you have crafted your posts in such a fashion as to hide your true nature.

                    Somehow I'm actually pretty damn sure that any sort of criticsm of the script would represent "cafting my posts to hide my true nature". In fact, that pretty much is the script. Any intellectual opposition to the moral purity of the left must necessarily hid someone's 'true nature'. What a powerful way to stifle free speech. Oh, Brave New World! Can't win a debate - resort to calling your opponent a racist. It works every time its tried. My only real crime is that I am not afraid to be a heretic to the brave new age morality. You, on the other hand, are horrified by the prospect of not being seen as the new age man, who never question the status guo least he be deemed a 'racist'. I imagine you've had that drilled into you since gradeschool. You're certainly well trained. But, if questioning the politics of 'hate crimes' is all it takes to make me a racist, I wear the term proudly.

                    Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                    Led mike is probably black. He is very good at the mindless knee jerk "RACISM!" reaction.

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                      The concept of a 'hate crime' makes no sense to me

                      Nor me. I don't believe I've ever heard of the murder of a white person referred to as a 'hate crime' regardless of how obvious it was that race played a major role in both the crime as well as the level of violence used. Murder is murder, regardless of the emotions motivating it, and they should all be treated the same.

                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      I don't believe I've ever heard of the murder of a white person referred to as a 'hate crime' regardless of how obvious it was that race played a major role in both the crime as well as the level of violence used.

                      A white man was carjacked, kidnapped, and then brutally murdered in Scotland a few years ago (I think, I'll try and find a news link). He was murdered by asians purely because he was white. No other reason. It was very clearly reported as a hate crime, in all the major news outlets, and I believe the judge stated as much as he handed down their life sentances.


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                        You badly need to get off of whatever drugs you're taking while you still have a few brain cells left. What the hell is: the entire concept of racism is retarded and reveals the true nature of the person, retarded, mentally unbalanced, mentally handicapped, etc. if not resorting to name-calling?

                        led mike wrote:

                        As I previously stated, I have been around enough racists to know one when I hear him. It's not at all surprising that you mistakenly believe you have crafted your posts in such a fashion as to hide your true nature.

                        Somehow I'm actually pretty damn sure that any sort of criticsm of the script would represent "cafting my posts to hide my true nature". In fact, that pretty much is the script. Any intellectual opposition to the moral purity of the left must necessarily hid someone's 'true nature'. What a powerful way to stifle free speech. Oh, Brave New World! Can't win a debate - resort to calling your opponent a racist. It works every time its tried. My only real crime is that I am not afraid to be a heretic to the brave new age morality. You, on the other hand, are horrified by the prospect of not being seen as the new age man, who never question the status guo least he be deemed a 'racist'. I imagine you've had that drilled into you since gradeschool. You're certainly well trained. But, if questioning the politics of 'hate crimes' is all it takes to make me a racist, I wear the term proudly.

                        Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        My only real crime is that I am not afraid to be a heretic to the brave new age morality.

                        Ah yes the "bravery card". You are just hiding behind that the same way all political assholes and cowards motivated by hate do, like Hitler did and the Islamic extremists do.

                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        never question the status guo least he be deemed a 'racist'.

                        Well if you mean the status quo of non-racism then when someone makes a racist remark... uh yeah... what did you think would happen? What, you think just because you can couch your racially motivated agenda in intellectual language that differentiates you? You think someone must make a fried chicken remark to be recognized as a racist a**hole? No just like Farrakhan, at first he seemed intelligent and heading in a good direction. Then when his true agenda was revealed it became obvious he was just another racist, there is just no escaping it when you are one.

                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        You badly need to get off of whatever drugs you're taking

                        Yes "FREEDOM" can be quite exhilarating! Alas it is something you will never know, being imprisoned by hatred and all. Sad… so sad :(( PS: but don't worry too much, at least you have stringcheese on your side. ;)

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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          My only real crime is that I am not afraid to be a heretic to the brave new age morality.

                          Ah yes the "bravery card". You are just hiding behind that the same way all political assholes and cowards motivated by hate do, like Hitler did and the Islamic extremists do.

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          never question the status guo least he be deemed a 'racist'.

                          Well if you mean the status quo of non-racism then when someone makes a racist remark... uh yeah... what did you think would happen? What, you think just because you can couch your racially motivated agenda in intellectual language that differentiates you? You think someone must make a fried chicken remark to be recognized as a racist a**hole? No just like Farrakhan, at first he seemed intelligent and heading in a good direction. Then when his true agenda was revealed it became obvious he was just another racist, there is just no escaping it when you are one.

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          You badly need to get off of whatever drugs you're taking

                          Yes "FREEDOM" can be quite exhilarating! Alas it is something you will never know, being imprisoned by hatred and all. Sad… so sad :(( PS: but don't worry too much, at least you have stringcheese on your side. ;)

                          led mike

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                          led mike wrote:

                          Ah yes the "bravery card". You are just hiding behind that the same way all political assholes and cowards motivated by hate do, like Hitler did and the Islamic extremists do.

                          Yeah, right...

                          led mike wrote:

                          Well if you mean the status quo of non-racism then when someone makes a racist remark... uh yeah... what did you think would happen? What, you think just because you can couch your racially motivated agenda in intellectual language that differentiates you? You think someone must make a fried chicken remark to be recognized as a racist a**hole? No just like Farrakhan, at first he seemed intelligent and heading in a good direction. Then when his true agenda was revealed it became obvious he was just another racist, there is just no escaping it when you are one.

                          No, the issue is that you, as with all true believers, wish to silence any dissent against your ever so carefully crafted house of cards. Free speech is your worst enemy. Anytime any one starts getting close to the heart of the issues, you throw down the race card thus stopping any real debate. Well, dude, fuck your race card.

                          led mike wrote:

                          Yes "FREEDOM" can be quite exhilarating! Alas it is something you will never know, being imprisoned by hatred and all. Sad… so sad

                          Thought as much. I understand everything now, McDougall.

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                            How could one possibly know if those statistics are true or not? How could one possible know if this crime were committed precisely because this couple was white? It will not be added to the statistics as a hate crime because a hate crime was not charged by the authorities. Therefore, it was not a hate crime whether it really was or not. I'll stick to my anecdotes. I have never known the murder of a black by a white to not become associated somehow with the phrase 'hate crime', either by the authorities or the media, and I have never know the murder of a white by a black to be called anything but murder by anyone.

                            Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                            This is what we suffer through for having slaves and treating them less than human. It will take quite some time for us to get to an equal setting as we've never really given an equal setting to other races. Maybe on paper but not in practice.

                            This statement was never false.

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                              This is what we suffer through for having slaves and treating them less than human. It will take quite some time for us to get to an equal setting as we've never really given an equal setting to other races. Maybe on paper but not in practice.

                              This statement was never false.

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                              Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                              This is what we suffer through for having slaves and treating them less than human.

                              Personally, I think the sacrifice of something on the order of 600,000 lives was adequate retribution for the sin of slavery itself. So, we are long past that.

                              Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                              It will take quite some time for us to get to an equal setting as we've never really given an equal setting to other races. Maybe on paper but not in practice.

                              Thats just more bullshit. What could possibly define an 'equal setting', and how much more authority are we prepared to give the central federal state in order to achieve it? I find it greatly amusing that the very people who are outraged (outraged, I say) over someone tapping the phones of terrorists, find it a great thing that the very same government would define quotas to give otherwise less qualified people posistions and opportunities which they would otherwise not be entitled to based on actual merit. The irony of all this, is that the very best thing that could happen to the black community would be to live in a society free to be openly racist. In such a society, black achievment would not be based upon the largess of white leftists, but on actual ability. Freed from the shackles of a caretaker government, they could, and would, rise of their own accord and no longer have any need for our pathetic guilt ridden concepts of 'equal settings'.

                              Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                And the fact that OJ was clearly guilty didn't stop an all black jury from exonerating the slime bag.

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                                One of these days, he's gonna find the real killer.

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                                  If five white thugs had done this[^]to a black couple, does anyone doubt that it would be in all the news as a vicious hate crime, and an indictment of our entire society?

                                  Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                  Hopefully they will all get the chair, hate crime or not.


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                                    Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                                    This is what we suffer through for having slaves and treating them less than human.

                                    Personally, I think the sacrifice of something on the order of 600,000 lives was adequate retribution for the sin of slavery itself. So, we are long past that.

                                    Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                                    It will take quite some time for us to get to an equal setting as we've never really given an equal setting to other races. Maybe on paper but not in practice.

                                    Thats just more bullshit. What could possibly define an 'equal setting', and how much more authority are we prepared to give the central federal state in order to achieve it? I find it greatly amusing that the very people who are outraged (outraged, I say) over someone tapping the phones of terrorists, find it a great thing that the very same government would define quotas to give otherwise less qualified people posistions and opportunities which they would otherwise not be entitled to based on actual merit. The irony of all this, is that the very best thing that could happen to the black community would be to live in a society free to be openly racist. In such a society, black achievment would not be based upon the largess of white leftists, but on actual ability. Freed from the shackles of a caretaker government, they could, and would, rise of their own accord and no longer have any need for our pathetic guilt ridden concepts of 'equal settings'.

                                    Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Personally, I think the sacrifice of something on the order of 600,000 lives was adequate retribution for the sin of slavery itself. So, we are long past that.

                                    You are referring to civil war casualities, I take it. A rather curious form of moral accounting, all the more so when more than half the casualties were on the side of the anti-slavery North.

                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    The irony of all this, is that the very best thing that could happen to the black community would be to live in a society free to be openly racist. In such a society, black achievment would not be based upon the largess of white leftists, but on actual ability. Freed from the shackles of a caretaker government, they could, and would, rise of their own accord and no longer have any need for our pathetic guilt ridden concepts of 'equal settings'.

                                    Hasn't that already been tried? You really do say some stupid things sometimes.

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                                      If five white thugs had done this[^]to a black couple, does anyone doubt that it would be in all the news as a vicious hate crime, and an indictment of our entire society?

                                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                      Chennai and India stands a silent testimony showcasing caste discrimination while your place is depicting racist discriminations. When will this apartheid get abolished making world people-friendly?

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        Personally, I think the sacrifice of something on the order of 600,000 lives was adequate retribution for the sin of slavery itself. So, we are long past that.

                                        You are referring to civil war casualities, I take it. A rather curious form of moral accounting, all the more so when more than half the casualties were on the side of the anti-slavery North.

                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        The irony of all this, is that the very best thing that could happen to the black community would be to live in a society free to be openly racist. In such a society, black achievment would not be based upon the largess of white leftists, but on actual ability. Freed from the shackles of a caretaker government, they could, and would, rise of their own accord and no longer have any need for our pathetic guilt ridden concepts of 'equal settings'.

                                        Hasn't that already been tried? You really do say some stupid things sometimes.

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                                        John Carson wrote:

                                        A rather curious form of moral accounting, all the more so when more than half the casualties were on the side of the anti-slavery North.

                                        They were all Americans.

                                        John Carson wrote:

                                        Hasn't that already been tried?

                                        Not in a modern capitalistic economy where the cost of not hiring the best and the brightest of any race can be severe. Any company hiring on the basis of race would quickly find its competition acquiring the best available candidtates and suffer consequencies far more extreme than any government could impose. All the black race in America ever needed was for the terrorism practiced against them to be treated as it would be for any one else. They didn't need to be led around by the hand like children for the rest of our national history. That attitude has done extreme harm to them as a group and has achieved nothing but the empowerment of leftist leaning politics in our natonal debates.

                                        Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                          I think I have a few people who vote me down because it's me.

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                                          Sad. :rose:

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