Hate Crime
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Chris-Kaiser wrote:
This is what we suffer through for having slaves and treating them less than human.
Personally, I think the sacrifice of something on the order of 600,000 lives was adequate retribution for the sin of slavery itself. So, we are long past that.
Chris-Kaiser wrote:
It will take quite some time for us to get to an equal setting as we've never really given an equal setting to other races. Maybe on paper but not in practice.
Thats just more bullshit. What could possibly define an 'equal setting', and how much more authority are we prepared to give the central federal state in order to achieve it? I find it greatly amusing that the very people who are outraged (outraged, I say) over someone tapping the phones of terrorists, find it a great thing that the very same government would define quotas to give otherwise less qualified people posistions and opportunities which they would otherwise not be entitled to based on actual merit. The irony of all this, is that the very best thing that could happen to the black community would be to live in a society free to be openly racist. In such a society, black achievment would not be based upon the largess of white leftists, but on actual ability. Freed from the shackles of a caretaker government, they could, and would, rise of their own accord and no longer have any need for our pathetic guilt ridden concepts of 'equal settings'.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Stan Shannon wrote:
Personally, I think the sacrifice of something on the order of 600,000 lives was adequate retribution for the sin of slavery itself. So, we are long past that.
You are referring to civil war casualities, I take it. A rather curious form of moral accounting, all the more so when more than half the casualties were on the side of the anti-slavery North.
Stan Shannon wrote:
The irony of all this, is that the very best thing that could happen to the black community would be to live in a society free to be openly racist. In such a society, black achievment would not be based upon the largess of white leftists, but on actual ability. Freed from the shackles of a caretaker government, they could, and would, rise of their own accord and no longer have any need for our pathetic guilt ridden concepts of 'equal settings'.
Hasn't that already been tried? You really do say some stupid things sometimes.
John Carson
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Personally, I think the sacrifice of something on the order of 600,000 lives was adequate retribution for the sin of slavery itself. So, we are long past that.
You are referring to civil war casualities, I take it. A rather curious form of moral accounting, all the more so when more than half the casualties were on the side of the anti-slavery North.
Stan Shannon wrote:
The irony of all this, is that the very best thing that could happen to the black community would be to live in a society free to be openly racist. In such a society, black achievment would not be based upon the largess of white leftists, but on actual ability. Freed from the shackles of a caretaker government, they could, and would, rise of their own accord and no longer have any need for our pathetic guilt ridden concepts of 'equal settings'.
Hasn't that already been tried? You really do say some stupid things sometimes.
John Carson
John Carson wrote:
A rather curious form of moral accounting, all the more so when more than half the casualties were on the side of the anti-slavery North.
They were all Americans.
John Carson wrote:
Hasn't that already been tried?
Not in a modern capitalistic economy where the cost of not hiring the best and the brightest of any race can be severe. Any company hiring on the basis of race would quickly find its competition acquiring the best available candidtates and suffer consequencies far more extreme than any government could impose. All the black race in America ever needed was for the terrorism practiced against them to be treated as it would be for any one else. They didn't need to be led around by the hand like children for the rest of our national history. That attitude has done extreme harm to them as a group and has achieved nothing but the empowerment of leftist leaning politics in our natonal debates.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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I think I have a few people who vote me down because it's me.
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John Carson wrote:
A rather curious form of moral accounting, all the more so when more than half the casualties were on the side of the anti-slavery North.
They were all Americans.
John Carson wrote:
Hasn't that already been tried?
Not in a modern capitalistic economy where the cost of not hiring the best and the brightest of any race can be severe. Any company hiring on the basis of race would quickly find its competition acquiring the best available candidtates and suffer consequencies far more extreme than any government could impose. All the black race in America ever needed was for the terrorism practiced against them to be treated as it would be for any one else. They didn't need to be led around by the hand like children for the rest of our national history. That attitude has done extreme harm to them as a group and has achieved nothing but the empowerment of leftist leaning politics in our natonal debates.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Stan Shannon wrote:
Not in a modern capitalistic economy where the cost of not hiring the best and the brightest of any race can be severe. Any company hiring on the basis of race would quickly find its competition acquiring the best available candidtates and suffer consequencies far more extreme than any government could impose.
The government can impose very extreme consequences, as I am sure you are aware. The more fundamental point is that, while it is true that employer prejudice is harmful to profits if the employer is the only one who is prejudiced, in the presence of coworker and/or customer prejudice, an employer may make more money by discriminating. And coworker and customer prejudice might be expected to be common "in a society free to be openly racist".
John Carson
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led mike wrote:
Ah yes the "bravery card". You are just hiding behind that the same way all political assholes and cowards motivated by hate do, like Hitler did and the Islamic extremists do.
Yeah, right...
led mike wrote:
Well if you mean the status quo of non-racism then when someone makes a racist remark... uh yeah... what did you think would happen? What, you think just because you can couch your racially motivated agenda in intellectual language that differentiates you? You think someone must make a fried chicken remark to be recognized as a racist a**hole? No just like Farrakhan, at first he seemed intelligent and heading in a good direction. Then when his true agenda was revealed it became obvious he was just another racist, there is just no escaping it when you are one.
No, the issue is that you, as with all true believers, wish to silence any dissent against your ever so carefully crafted house of cards. Free speech is your worst enemy. Anytime any one starts getting close to the heart of the issues, you throw down the race card thus stopping any real debate. Well, dude, fuck your race card.
led mike wrote:
Yes "FREEDOM" can be quite exhilarating! Alas it is something you will never know, being imprisoned by hatred and all. Sad… so sad
Thought as much. I understand everything now, McDougall.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Stan Shannon wrote:
you throw down the race card
No "you" throw down the race card, i trump it with the "racist" card. Of course I don't care what you think about given what you are so you can just go back to your whining now, poor little under appreciated down trodden white boy. :(( What a joke
led mike
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Stan Shannon wrote:
you throw down the race card
No "you" throw down the race card, i trump it with the "racist" card. Of course I don't care what you think about given what you are so you can just go back to your whining now, poor little under appreciated down trodden white boy. :(( What a joke
led mike
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Stan Shannon wrote:
you throw down the race card
No "you" throw down the race card, i trump it with the "racist" card. Of course I don't care what you think about given what you are so you can just go back to your whining now, poor little under appreciated down trodden white boy. :(( What a joke
led mike
led mike wrote:
No "you" throw down the race card, i trump it with the "racist" card. Of course I don't care what you think about given what you are so you can just go back to your whining now, poor little under appreciated down trodden white boy.
I usually let threads die after they get so far down, but your response really bugs me. You are clearly trying to suppress political dissent. This has become far too common in our society and is a perfect example of the Marxist left's outright domination of the public debate by frameing false moral arguments. It is perfectly appropriate to question the hypocrisy inherent in the legal notion of 'hate crimes'. It is a political issue and I have the right to express my opinions on it without having you brand me with a scarlet 'R', you drug addict fascist pig.
led mike wrote:
poor little under appreciated down trodden white boy.
Now thats racist. Overtly so. Because I'm white I have no right to free speech. Wow, I hope you're proud of all the wonderful changes people like you have brought to our society. You can go back to your drugs now.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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led mike wrote:
No "you" throw down the race card, i trump it with the "racist" card. Of course I don't care what you think about given what you are so you can just go back to your whining now, poor little under appreciated down trodden white boy.
I usually let threads die after they get so far down, but your response really bugs me. You are clearly trying to suppress political dissent. This has become far too common in our society and is a perfect example of the Marxist left's outright domination of the public debate by frameing false moral arguments. It is perfectly appropriate to question the hypocrisy inherent in the legal notion of 'hate crimes'. It is a political issue and I have the right to express my opinions on it without having you brand me with a scarlet 'R', you drug addict fascist pig.
led mike wrote:
poor little under appreciated down trodden white boy.
Now thats racist. Overtly so. Because I'm white I have no right to free speech. Wow, I hope you're proud of all the wonderful changes people like you have brought to our society. You can go back to your drugs now.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Stan Shannon wrote:
your response really bugs me.
Well I'm glad, now if only being a racist bothered you we might be getting somewhere.
Stan Shannon wrote:
It is a political issue and I have the right to express my opinions on it without having you brand me with a scarlet 'R'
Garbage. I'm not branding you with anything for any political issue. You being a racist has nothing to do with me. I didn't cause you to be one, that's your choice, stand up like a man and take responsibility for your choices. Of course racists have a long history of pride, running around with masks on all the time.
Stan Shannon wrote:
you drug addict fascist pig.
Thanks for posting more of that right wing intellectual elitist writing style, it sure does prove your superiority. You can get back to your fun now, drinking beer and telling ethnic jokes with your clan buddies. Be sure to tell them how you told off the fascist pig, that will impress them.
led mike