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  • C CPallini

    English! :-D

    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.

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    DavidNohejl
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    Is it this plain and simple?


    "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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      There is not such a thing as language best to learn, it all depends on your needs. C++ is THE language. C# is HOT language of .NET world. HTML/javascript is a must for web developer. SQL if you are working with DBs (who is not :D) XML if you share data between various clients/platforms/formats VB.net if... dunno


      "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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      dnh wrote:

      VB.net if... dunno

      Don't listen to him! :) There is nothing wrong with VB.NET, especially for a beginner. If you are not planning a career developing high-spec software for blue-chip companies with million-record databases, VB will do everything you want, and you will learn it a lot faster and a lot easier. You don't need to use a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Fred

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        dnh wrote:

        VB.net if... dunno

        Don't listen to him! :) There is nothing wrong with VB.NET, especially for a beginner. If you are not planning a career developing high-spec software for blue-chip companies with million-record databases, VB will do everything you want, and you will learn it a lot faster and a lot easier. You don't need to use a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Fred

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        Mark Salsbery
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        Fred_Smith wrote:

        You don't need to use a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

        Yeah, but it does such a nice job!

        "Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder

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          dnh wrote:

          VB.net if... dunno

          Don't listen to him! :) There is nothing wrong with VB.NET, especially for a beginner. If you are not planning a career developing high-spec software for blue-chip companies with million-record databases, VB will do everything you want, and you will learn it a lot faster and a lot easier. You don't need to use a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Fred

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          Brady Kelly
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          Why is VB.NET faster and easier to learn than C#? I've only seen this in people coming from VB6.

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            Why is VB.NET faster and easier to learn than C#? I've only seen this in people coming from VB6.

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            Kevin McFarlane
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            I'm not sure it is. I've come across many who've gone from VB 6 to C# without any difficulty. However, for a complete beginner, VB .NET may well be easier than C#. My first experience of structured programming was a variant of Basic (QBasic). I know I would have found C syntax peculiar at the time. Prior to this I had some experience of FORTRAN 77. It wasn't structured but at least it had IF THEN END IF. So it made the QBasic look less alien.

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              I'm not sure it is. I've come across many who've gone from VB 6 to C# without any difficulty. However, for a complete beginner, VB .NET may well be easier than C#. My first experience of structured programming was a variant of Basic (QBasic). I know I would have found C syntax peculiar at the time. Prior to this I had some experience of FORTRAN 77. It wasn't structured but at least it had IF THEN END IF. So it made the QBasic look less alien.

              Kevin

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              Brady Kelly
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              As have I, but I meant people from a VB6 background are likely to find VB.NET easier to learn than C#.

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              • J Jooooe

                Hello everybody Which of the languages covered by the site would be the best to learn. Joooooe

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                  Dave Kreskowiak
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                  The Grand Negus wrote:

                  the future of the industry is in natural language programming

                  Site a reference that says this. Oh, that's is NOT related to you or your website.

                  A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
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                    Kevin McFarlane
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                    I think you would be taken more seriously on CP if on your web site you actually provided some examples of your language in action. You provide a download but you have to pay before you can see anything. No sane person will sign up for such a deal. Why don't you write an article(s) explaining the advantages of plain language programming and how it solves problems better than traditional languages? For something as revolutionary as you claim I would expect to see a site at least as elaborate as this, for example: http://www.cutthecrap.biz/[^]

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                      I think you would be taken more seriously on CP if on your web site you actually provided some examples of your language in action. You provide a download but you have to pay before you can see anything. No sane person will sign up for such a deal. Why don't you write an article(s) explaining the advantages of plain language programming and how it solves problems better than traditional languages? For something as revolutionary as you claim I would expect to see a site at least as elaborate as this, for example: http://www.cutthecrap.biz/[^]

                      Kevin

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                      Dave Kreskowiak
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                      He did. They were wiped out. It would be even better if he wrote the articles and posted them on his own website, and exposed forums on his own website. Both of which he refuses to do for stupid reasons.

                      A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                      Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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                        Why is VB.NET faster and easier to learn than C#? I've only seen this in people coming from VB6.

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                        Simply put, VB.NET is easier to read than C# if you're not (yet) a programmer. This difference was much more pronounced when it was VB versus C++, but there are still a few things left that you might like. 1) Not case-sensitive! 2) No curly braces, which tend to scare people new to programming 3) The "My" namespace has some intuitive shortcuts to certain framework classes 4) Less shortcuts force your code to be more verbose and readable 5) The IDE does a lot more completion for you (Adding in "End If" and such) Of course, most seasoned C/C++/C# programmers see some of these as reasons NOT to use VB.NET, but it's not meant for people like them (or me). So basically, it's easier for a newbie, and makes a great stepping stone to C#, which gets you used to the syntax style used by many modern languages. If you already know how to program, and are coming from a C or Pascal derivative, go straight to C#.

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                          Simply put, VB.NET is easier to read than C# if you're not (yet) a programmer. This difference was much more pronounced when it was VB versus C++, but there are still a few things left that you might like. 1) Not case-sensitive! 2) No curly braces, which tend to scare people new to programming 3) The "My" namespace has some intuitive shortcuts to certain framework classes 4) Less shortcuts force your code to be more verbose and readable 5) The IDE does a lot more completion for you (Adding in "End If" and such) Of course, most seasoned C/C++/C# programmers see some of these as reasons NOT to use VB.NET, but it's not meant for people like them (or me). So basically, it's easier for a newbie, and makes a great stepping stone to C#, which gets you used to the syntax style used by many modern languages. If you already know how to program, and are coming from a C or Pascal derivative, go straight to C#.

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                          Kevin McFarlane
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                          Ian, I agree completely. :)

                          Kevin

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