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    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm From the site: Friend, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will BURN in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; Yes, it is Biblical. If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be tormented in the flames forever without a single, solitary hope. God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win.

    The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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      http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm From the site: Friend, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will BURN in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; Yes, it is Biblical. If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be tormented in the flames forever without a single, solitary hope. God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win.

      The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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      So?

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        http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm From the site: Friend, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will BURN in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; Yes, it is Biblical. If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be tormented in the flames forever without a single, solitary hope. God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win.

        The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        :zzz:

        home
        tastier than delicious

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          http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm From the site: Friend, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will BURN in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; Yes, it is Biblical. If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be tormented in the flames forever without a single, solitary hope. God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win.

          The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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          Matthew Bache
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          That's what I like to see - plenty of compassion and tolerance in a religion.

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            http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm From the site: Friend, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will BURN in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; Yes, it is Biblical. If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be tormented in the flames forever without a single, solitary hope. God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win.

            The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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            AndyKEnZ
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            When I read that I got the mental image of a fat white man sat in the back of a Rolls Royce reading into a microphone with a topless pretty girl sitting on his knee. Ah hear you lord...

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              http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm From the site: Friend, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will BURN in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; Yes, it is Biblical. If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be tormented in the flames forever without a single, solitary hope. God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win.

              The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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              Fatbuddha 1
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              WTF? Somtimes I am afraid of some people:-D

              You have the thought that modern physics just relay on assumptions, that somehow depends on a smile of a cat, which isn’t there.( Albert Einstein)

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                http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm From the site: Friend, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will BURN in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; Yes, it is Biblical. If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be tormented in the flames forever without a single, solitary hope. God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win.

                The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                Of course hell is real. We are living in it right now. Didnt you know that?

                Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                  Of course hell is real. We are living in it right now. Didnt you know that?

                  Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                  It sure feels like it when i am running in this hot humid weather in Arkansas.

                  The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                    It sure feels like it when i am running in this hot humid weather in Arkansas.

                    The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    Hot and humid sure beats ball numbingly cold and dry. :)

                    -- -= Proudly Made on Earth =-

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                      Of course hell is real. We are living in it right now. Didnt you know that?

                      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                      Mike Gaskey
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                      fat_boy wrote:

                      We are living in it right now. Didnt you know that?

                      not true, this is just your bad Karma for previous life bad acts.

                      Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                        http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm From the site: Friend, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will BURN in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; Yes, it is Biblical. If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be tormented in the flames forever without a single, solitary hope. God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win.

                        The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                        Matthew Faithfull
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                        And your point is?

                        Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                          http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm From the site: Friend, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will BURN in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; Yes, it is Biblical. If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be tormented in the flames forever without a single, solitary hope. God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win.

                          The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          I'm a Christian and what is said in that link is a bunch of bullshiite! Yes there is a hell, but it will be reserved for those who profess to believe in Christ but choose not to follow his teachings. God will *not* judge or condemn those who don't know or don't believe. Everyone will get a chance to accept or reject Christ, either in this life or the next.

                          Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                            And your point is?

                            Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                            Do you agree with the site I linked to?

                            The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                              Do you agree with the site I linked to?

                              The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                              Matthew Faithfull
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                              I can't get it to load without it making a horrible racket so no. I certainly don't agree with it in that sense.;) The excerpt you posted seems factually correct. There will certainly be large tracts of such I site that I can agree with and parts that I cannot. My agreement is pretty irrelvent of course although it's nice of you to ask. The site is either biblicaly sound or it is not. That is the only relevent standard by which such things can be judged. Whether any particlular statement from the site is in accordance with scripture or not is a separate debate but suffice it to say that in as much as the site is in accordance with scripture I agree with it. How could I do otherwise and sincerely claim to be Christian?

                              Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                                I'm a Christian and what is said in that link is a bunch of bullshiite! Yes there is a hell, but it will be reserved for those who profess to believe in Christ but choose not to follow his teachings. God will *not* judge or condemn those who don't know or don't believe. Everyone will get a chance to accept or reject Christ, either in this life or the next.

                                Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                                Matthew Faithfull
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                                Please, if you're going to start your post with

                                ahhz wrote:

                                I'm a Christian

                                and then proceed to describe a basic orthodoxy of that religion as

                                ahhz wrote:

                                bullshiite!

                                at least have the courtesy to back up your point with some higher authority than Monty Python.

                                Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                                  I can't get it to load without it making a horrible racket so no. I certainly don't agree with it in that sense.;) The excerpt you posted seems factually correct. There will certainly be large tracts of such I site that I can agree with and parts that I cannot. My agreement is pretty irrelvent of course although it's nice of you to ask. The site is either biblicaly sound or it is not. That is the only relevent standard by which such things can be judged. Whether any particlular statement from the site is in accordance with scripture or not is a separate debate but suffice it to say that in as much as the site is in accordance with scripture I agree with it. How could I do otherwise and sincerely claim to be Christian?

                                  Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                                  If you think that it is "factually correct" that every single person who dies without believing in Jesus goes to be tortured forever, then you are mentally ill.

                                  The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                                    I'm a Christian and what is said in that link is a bunch of bullshiite! Yes there is a hell, but it will be reserved for those who profess to believe in Christ but choose not to follow his teachings. God will *not* judge or condemn those who don't know or don't believe. Everyone will get a chance to accept or reject Christ, either in this life or the next.

                                    Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                                    ahhz wrote:

                                    Yes there is a hell, but it will be reserved for those who profess to believe in Christ but choose not to follow his teachings. God will *not* judge or condemn those who don't know or don't believe. Everyone will get a chance to accept or reject Christ, either in this life or the next.

                                    As an atheist, your idea of God's afterlife makes sense to me. But, not every believer agrees. Faithfull assured me the other day (based on conversations he's had with the wizard himself or stuff he pulled out of some book, I'm not sure) that I can only go to heaven if I convert to Christianity before I die. That almost put a damper on my plans to wait till death to get that sorted out. :)


                                    - Your choice of lifestyle is an abomination. - But I've been this way since I was a child. - The scriptures say it is of the Devil! - But who am I hurting by being this way? - It's EVIL! You must renounce this behavior! - What if it's NATURAL? - There's no proof of that! BEING LEFT HANDED IN THE MIDDLE AGES.

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                                      Please, if you're going to start your post with

                                      ahhz wrote:

                                      I'm a Christian

                                      and then proceed to describe a basic orthodoxy of that religion as

                                      ahhz wrote:

                                      bullshiite!

                                      at least have the courtesy to back up your point with some higher authority than Monty Python.

                                      Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                                      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                      at least have the courtesy to back up your point with some higher authority than Monty Python.

                                      I'm sure he didn't expect the bloody Spanish Inquisition! Where is Cardinal Fang when he is needed most?!

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        Please, if you're going to start your post with

                                        ahhz wrote:

                                        I'm a Christian

                                        and then proceed to describe a basic orthodoxy of that religion as

                                        ahhz wrote:

                                        bullshiite!

                                        at least have the courtesy to back up your point with some higher authority than Monty Python.

                                        Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                        Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                        basic orthodoxy of that religion

                                        It isn't what Jesus taught nor the prohpets, therefore it is hardly Christian orthodoxy. It is just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo thought-up by self-serving preachers practicing priestcraft for money, influence and power.

                                        Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                        proceed to describe

                                        You're like those that Isaiah describes in Isaiah 29:20-24[^]: 20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off: 21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought. 22 Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale. 23 But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel. 24 They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.

                                        Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                                          ahhz wrote:

                                          Yes there is a hell, but it will be reserved for those who profess to believe in Christ but choose not to follow his teachings. God will *not* judge or condemn those who don't know or don't believe. Everyone will get a chance to accept or reject Christ, either in this life or the next.

                                          As an atheist, your idea of God's afterlife makes sense to me. But, not every believer agrees. Faithfull assured me the other day (based on conversations he's had with the wizard himself or stuff he pulled out of some book, I'm not sure) that I can only go to heaven if I convert to Christianity before I die. That almost put a damper on my plans to wait till death to get that sorted out. :)


                                          - Your choice of lifestyle is an abomination. - But I've been this way since I was a child. - The scriptures say it is of the Devil! - But who am I hurting by being this way? - It's EVIL! You must renounce this behavior! - What if it's NATURAL? - There's no proof of that! BEING LEFT HANDED IN THE MIDDLE AGES.

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                                          I think Microsoft bought Christianity, and after firing all of the original employees, they made conversion impossible by introducing a closed-source proprietary belief system.

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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