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  • L Lost User

    A.A. wrote:

    take offence to these types of actions.

    Taking offense is to be expected - thats human nature. It's the violent reactions that have to stop if Islam wants to move forward.

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    Red Stateler
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    Mike Mullikin wrote:

    Taking offense is to be expected

    But the BBC's willingness to disparage one religion over another in order to advance its own agenda should not be expected.

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      Red Stateler wrote:

      at which executives admitted they would broadcast images of the Bible being thrown away but not the Koran, in case Muslims were offended.

      I would like to know if the executives themselves are Christians or Atheists and if they believe Christians in general take offence to these types of actions.

      Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)

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      Offence isn't the issue, its a combination of fearing the members of your faiths famed tendency to commit acts of savage violence at the slightest provocation (at least once sufficiently manipulated into a frenzy Danish cartoon style), along with the liberal fear of being considered racist or reactionary in any way - an anathema in the circles they move in. The beeb had very recently aired Jerry Springer the Opera, which was very much opposed by a number of evangelicals (I doubt the C of E gave a toss). They did the right thing and went ahead with it anyway.

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        Mike Mullikin wrote:

        Taking offense is to be expected

        But the BBC's willingness to disparage one religion over another in order to advance its own agenda should not be expected.

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        Red Stateler wrote:

        But the BBC's willingness to disparage one religion over another in order to advance its own agenda should not be expected.

        Nope, I've long held that the BBC is just as biased (in their news coverage) as everyone else.

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          Red Stateler wrote:

          at which executives admitted they would broadcast images of the Bible being thrown away but not the Koran, in case Muslims were offended.

          I would like to know if the executives themselves are Christians or Atheists and if they believe Christians in general take offence to these types of actions.

          Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)

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          A.A. wrote:

          I would like to know if the executives themselves are Christians or Atheists and if they believe Christians in general take offence to these types of actions.

          I'm willing to bet they're either atheists or at a minimum secular humanist leftists. It's their goal to bring down Christianity because it is dominant. In this case the enemy (Islam) of their enemy (Christianity) is their friend.

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            Offence isn't the issue, its a combination of fearing the members of your faiths famed tendency to commit acts of savage violence at the slightest provocation (at least once sufficiently manipulated into a frenzy Danish cartoon style), along with the liberal fear of being considered racist or reactionary in any way - an anathema in the circles they move in. The beeb had very recently aired Jerry Springer the Opera, which was very much opposed by a number of evangelicals (I doubt the C of E gave a toss). They did the right thing and went ahead with it anyway.

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            Given the BBC actively takes a generally pro-Islamic and anti-Christian bias, it seems their position on offending religions is less based in fear of reprisal than an inherent bias.

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              Red Stateler wrote:

              But the BBC's willingness to disparage one religion over another in order to advance its own agenda should not be expected.

              Nope, I've long held that the BBC is just as biased (in their news coverage) as everyone else.

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              Mike Mullikin wrote:

              Nope, I've long held that the BBC is just as biased (in their news coverage) as everyone else.

              I think it's obvious that they're just a tad more biased.

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                Mike Mullikin wrote:

                Nope, I've long held that the BBC is just as biased (in their news coverage) as everyone else.

                I think it's obvious that they're just a tad more biased.

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                Red Stateler wrote:

                I think it's obvious that they're just a tad more biased.

                Meh! I'm pretty skeptical about all news media.

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                • R Red Stateler

                  Given the BBC actively takes a generally pro-Islamic and anti-Christian bias, it seems their position on offending religions is less based in fear of reprisal than an inherent bias.

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                  Ryan Roberts
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                  I think its more to do with anti Americanism and support for Palestine than anything else, at least that's what the British left who are highly critical of Islamism think (there are quite a few, just not at the BBC..).

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                    link[^]

                    The BBC has failed to promote proper debate on major political issues because
                    of the inherent liberal culture of its staff, a report commissioned by the
                    corporation has concluded.

                    The report claims that coverage of single-issue political causes, such as climate
                    change and poverty, can be biased - and is particularly critical of Live 8
                    coverage, which it says amounted to endorsement.

                    And a part I found interesting (but equally obvious):

                    It reads: “There is a tendency to 'group think’ with too many staff inhabiting
                    a shared space and comfort zone.”

                    A staff impartiality seminar held last year is also documented in the report, at
                    which executives admitted they would broadcast images of the Bible being thrown
                    away but not the Koran, in case Muslims were offended.

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                    Lost User
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                    How stupid of people to think that journalism could be anything other than bias. The BBC is thus no different from any of the world's media. It comes with the territory. Yes, there are aspects of BBC coverage that needs change.

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                      link[^]

                      The BBC has failed to promote proper debate on major political issues because
                      of the inherent liberal culture of its staff, a report commissioned by the
                      corporation has concluded.

                      The report claims that coverage of single-issue political causes, such as climate
                      change and poverty, can be biased - and is particularly critical of Live 8
                      coverage, which it says amounted to endorsement.

                      And a part I found interesting (but equally obvious):

                      It reads: “There is a tendency to 'group think’ with too many staff inhabiting
                      a shared space and comfort zone.”

                      A staff impartiality seminar held last year is also documented in the report, at
                      which executives admitted they would broadcast images of the Bible being thrown
                      away but not the Koran, in case Muslims were offended.

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                      Michael Sadlon
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                      You posted FACTS. 5 from me.

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                        link[^]

                        The BBC has failed to promote proper debate on major political issues because
                        of the inherent liberal culture of its staff, a report commissioned by the
                        corporation has concluded.

                        The report claims that coverage of single-issue political causes, such as climate
                        change and poverty, can be biased - and is particularly critical of Live 8
                        coverage, which it says amounted to endorsement.

                        And a part I found interesting (but equally obvious):

                        It reads: “There is a tendency to 'group think’ with too many staff inhabiting
                        a shared space and comfort zone.”

                        A staff impartiality seminar held last year is also documented in the report, at
                        which executives admitted they would broadcast images of the Bible being thrown
                        away but not the Koran, in case Muslims were offended.

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                        Matthew Faithfull
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                        We were leaked much of this report ages ago. The BBC is biased all over the place, generally as has been said a slight left turn but much more in specific areas. Individual programmes have at times been nobbled by special interest groups. For example the Today programme, which is the BBCs premier serious news Radio programme every weekday morning was for years completely subject to the whims of a private gentlemans club which used to meet several nights a week with the editors and decide the agenda for the next day or 2. Edward Heath, who was involved, boasted about it when he got too old to care. At the other end of the spectrum Newsnight a BBC2 evening news programe helped to bring down John Major's government, biased certainly but that was a 'public service' if ever I saw one.:laugh:

                        Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                        • R Red Stateler

                          Given the BBC actively takes a generally pro-Islamic and anti-Christian bias, it seems their position on offending religions is less based in fear of reprisal than an inherent bias.

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                          If that's the case, one must wonder why they kidnapped and refuse to release the BBC correspondent in Hamas controlled Gaza

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                            If that's the case, one must wonder why they kidnapped and refuse to release the BBC correspondent in Hamas controlled Gaza

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                            Ryan Roberts
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                            According to Debka, it's an internal Hamas squabble. The family holding him have fallen out with the Hamas leadership and are big and scary enough not to be screwed with. Either way its going to be a win for Hamas - if he gets killed the BBC will say its was Israels' fault, if he is released it will spun as proving that Hamas can be negotiated with.

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                              leckey wrote:

                              I just wish people who vote down would post WHY.

                              I vote you 1's because I don't like when you insinuate that women shouldn't be subservient to men. The very thought of that twists my stomach.

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                              Patrick Etc
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                              Red Stateler wrote:

                              I vote you 1's because I don't like when you insinuate that women shouldn't be subservient to men. The very thought of that twists my stomach.

                              Are you joking? Sometimes it's hard to tell...

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                                leckey wrote:

                                I just wish people who vote down would post WHY.

                                I vote you 1's because I don't like when you insinuate that women shouldn't be subservient to men. The very thought of that twists my stomach.

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                                :laugh::laugh::laugh:

                                Regards, asxzdf213

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                                • 7 73Zeppelin

                                  We should establish a "Leftist disgruntlement index" based on the number of 1 votes you receive over a given time period.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  He gets voted a 1 because of his posts are garbage.

                                  Regards, asxzdf213

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                                    Red Stateler wrote:

                                    at which executives admitted they would broadcast images of the Bible being thrown away but not the Koran, in case Muslims were offended.

                                    I would like to know if the executives themselves are Christians or Atheists and if they believe Christians in general take offence to these types of actions.

                                    Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Cool.

                                    Regards, asxzdf213

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                                      leckey wrote:

                                      I just wish people who vote down would post WHY.

                                      I vote you 1's because I don't like when you insinuate that women shouldn't be subservient to men. The very thought of that twists my stomach.

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                                      Tim Craig
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                                      And I vote you 1's just because you're clueless and an asshole.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        He gets voted a 1 because of his posts are garbage.

                                        Regards, asxzdf213

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                                        73Zeppelin
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                                        asxzdf213 wrote:

                                        He gets voted a 1 because of his posts are garbage.

                                        Just like yours. But apparently you liked one of his, you know right here[^]. Hey, look! Somebody voted you a '1'!


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                                        • M Matthew Faithfull

                                          We were leaked much of this report ages ago. The BBC is biased all over the place, generally as has been said a slight left turn but much more in specific areas. Individual programmes have at times been nobbled by special interest groups. For example the Today programme, which is the BBCs premier serious news Radio programme every weekday morning was for years completely subject to the whims of a private gentlemans club which used to meet several nights a week with the editors and decide the agenda for the next day or 2. Edward Heath, who was involved, boasted about it when he got too old to care. At the other end of the spectrum Newsnight a BBC2 evening news programe helped to bring down John Major's government, biased certainly but that was a 'public service' if ever I saw one.:laugh:

                                          Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                                          73Zeppelin
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                                          Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                          Edward Heath, who was involved, boasted about it when he got too old to care.

                                          Is/was Heath employed by the BBC?


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