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    Many years ago I was working for a semi-govt agency here in Australia (who must remain nameless to protect myself and the guilty), and we had a contract programmer in to develop some portions of a system that was deployed (via CD in those days) to 87 sites across the state. During testing, the client complained to me that if they performed a specific function the system would hang. I tested and tested and couldn't recreate it, so I finally asked them to step me through it over the phone while I ran the code in debug mode... Turns out they were adding an entire list of around 12500 items into a particular function to flag those items... Voila!! The code appeared to hang... I stepped into the code to find this particular gem: for intCount = 1 to numItems // Grab some data for intCount2 = 1 to numItems // do some processing loop loop In essence, the system wasn't hanging, it was stepping through a nested loop - a cartesian product of the items in the list (12500 of them) - I calculated that the function would have eventually returned - after around 36 hours of processing... And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Damian - Wondering why he has to be the one to sort the mess out!!

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      Many years ago I was working for a semi-govt agency here in Australia (who must remain nameless to protect myself and the guilty), and we had a contract programmer in to develop some portions of a system that was deployed (via CD in those days) to 87 sites across the state. During testing, the client complained to me that if they performed a specific function the system would hang. I tested and tested and couldn't recreate it, so I finally asked them to step me through it over the phone while I ran the code in debug mode... Turns out they were adding an entire list of around 12500 items into a particular function to flag those items... Voila!! The code appeared to hang... I stepped into the code to find this particular gem: for intCount = 1 to numItems // Grab some data for intCount2 = 1 to numItems // do some processing loop loop In essence, the system wasn't hanging, it was stepping through a nested loop - a cartesian product of the items in the list (12500 of them) - I calculated that the function would have eventually returned - after around 36 hours of processing... And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Damian - Wondering why he has to be the one to sort the mess out!!

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      Sylvester george
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      Voila

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        Many years ago I was working for a semi-govt agency here in Australia (who must remain nameless to protect myself and the guilty), and we had a contract programmer in to develop some portions of a system that was deployed (via CD in those days) to 87 sites across the state. During testing, the client complained to me that if they performed a specific function the system would hang. I tested and tested and couldn't recreate it, so I finally asked them to step me through it over the phone while I ran the code in debug mode... Turns out they were adding an entire list of around 12500 items into a particular function to flag those items... Voila!! The code appeared to hang... I stepped into the code to find this particular gem: for intCount = 1 to numItems // Grab some data for intCount2 = 1 to numItems // do some processing loop loop In essence, the system wasn't hanging, it was stepping through a nested loop - a cartesian product of the items in the list (12500 of them) - I calculated that the function would have eventually returned - after around 36 hours of processing... And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Damian - Wondering why he has to be the one to sort the mess out!!

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        StevenWalsh
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        DamianS1973 wrote:

        And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code...

        Paid less per hour, but i bet you have medical benefits.... i bet he doesn't.... and when you add it up, it doesnt.

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          DamianS1973 wrote:

          And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code...

          Paid less per hour, but i bet you have medical benefits.... i bet he doesn't.... and when you add it up, it doesnt.

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          Dave Sexton
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          Contractor are you? :)

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            DamianS1973 wrote:

            And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code...

            Paid less per hour, but i bet you have medical benefits.... i bet he doesn't.... and when you add it up, it doesnt.

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            Lee Humphries
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            It's not that common in Australia for employees to get medical benefits - just the sick leave. So when your breakfast decides it's going to post a return to the function call, you get to go home sick but you still have to pay to see the doctor (especially in Queensland).

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              Many years ago I was working for a semi-govt agency here in Australia (who must remain nameless to protect myself and the guilty), and we had a contract programmer in to develop some portions of a system that was deployed (via CD in those days) to 87 sites across the state. During testing, the client complained to me that if they performed a specific function the system would hang. I tested and tested and couldn't recreate it, so I finally asked them to step me through it over the phone while I ran the code in debug mode... Turns out they were adding an entire list of around 12500 items into a particular function to flag those items... Voila!! The code appeared to hang... I stepped into the code to find this particular gem: for intCount = 1 to numItems // Grab some data for intCount2 = 1 to numItems // do some processing loop loop In essence, the system wasn't hanging, it was stepping through a nested loop - a cartesian product of the items in the list (12500 of them) - I calculated that the function would have eventually returned - after around 36 hours of processing... And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Damian - Wondering why he has to be the one to sort the mess out!!

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              DynV
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              Wow that was some real newbie mistake ! But what does that say about the organization that implemented his code without verification ?

              Je vous salue du Québec !

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                DamianS1973 wrote:

                And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code...

                Paid less per hour, but i bet you have medical benefits.... i bet he doesn't.... and when you add it up, it doesnt.

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                Sylvester george
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                Your nick name length is making horror to CP

                Regards, Sylvester G sylvester_g_m@yahoo.com

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                  Many years ago I was working for a semi-govt agency here in Australia (who must remain nameless to protect myself and the guilty), and we had a contract programmer in to develop some portions of a system that was deployed (via CD in those days) to 87 sites across the state. During testing, the client complained to me that if they performed a specific function the system would hang. I tested and tested and couldn't recreate it, so I finally asked them to step me through it over the phone while I ran the code in debug mode... Turns out they were adding an entire list of around 12500 items into a particular function to flag those items... Voila!! The code appeared to hang... I stepped into the code to find this particular gem: for intCount = 1 to numItems // Grab some data for intCount2 = 1 to numItems // do some processing loop loop In essence, the system wasn't hanging, it was stepping through a nested loop - a cartesian product of the items in the list (12500 of them) - I calculated that the function would have eventually returned - after around 36 hours of processing... And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Damian - Wondering why he has to be the one to sort the mess out!!

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                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                  It is always a golden rule to take anything outside the loop. :-D

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                    Your nick name length is making horror to CP

                    Regards, Sylvester G sylvester_g_m@yahoo.com

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                    StevenWalsh
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                    Yes in hind sight, i guess it was not a very good decision :) i changed it to something more professional

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                      Voila

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                      Voilà

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                        It's not that common in Australia for employees to get medical benefits - just the sick leave. So when your breakfast decides it's going to post a return to the function call, you get to go home sick but you still have to pay to see the doctor (especially in Queensland).

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                        Lee Humphries wrote:

                        your breakfast decides it's going to post a return to the function call,

                        OK I have to admit this awakened me from my post-launch Sleep(600000) session. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

                        Alberto Bar-Noy Project Manager http://www.consist.co.il

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                          DamianS1973 wrote:

                          And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code...

                          Paid less per hour, but i bet you have medical benefits.... i bet he doesn't.... and when you add it up, it doesnt.

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                          _Damian S_
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                          Sadly here in sunny Australia we don't (generally) get medical benefits etc... so no, I was nowhere near getting what he was on... never mind, I make more now to make up for it!! ;-)

                          ------------------------------------------- Damian - Insert snappy one-liner here.

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                            Many years ago I was working for a semi-govt agency here in Australia (who must remain nameless to protect myself and the guilty), and we had a contract programmer in to develop some portions of a system that was deployed (via CD in those days) to 87 sites across the state. During testing, the client complained to me that if they performed a specific function the system would hang. I tested and tested and couldn't recreate it, so I finally asked them to step me through it over the phone while I ran the code in debug mode... Turns out they were adding an entire list of around 12500 items into a particular function to flag those items... Voila!! The code appeared to hang... I stepped into the code to find this particular gem: for intCount = 1 to numItems // Grab some data for intCount2 = 1 to numItems // do some processing loop loop In essence, the system wasn't hanging, it was stepping through a nested loop - a cartesian product of the items in the list (12500 of them) - I calculated that the function would have eventually returned - after around 36 hours of processing... And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Damian - Wondering why he has to be the one to sort the mess out!!

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                            That why i like C++, it is faster. :beer:

                            Greetings from Germany

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                              Many years ago I was working for a semi-govt agency here in Australia (who must remain nameless to protect myself and the guilty), and we had a contract programmer in to develop some portions of a system that was deployed (via CD in those days) to 87 sites across the state. During testing, the client complained to me that if they performed a specific function the system would hang. I tested and tested and couldn't recreate it, so I finally asked them to step me through it over the phone while I ran the code in debug mode... Turns out they were adding an entire list of around 12500 items into a particular function to flag those items... Voila!! The code appeared to hang... I stepped into the code to find this particular gem: for intCount = 1 to numItems // Grab some data for intCount2 = 1 to numItems // do some processing loop loop In essence, the system wasn't hanging, it was stepping through a nested loop - a cartesian product of the items in the list (12500 of them) - I calculated that the function would have eventually returned - after around 36 hours of processing... And I was a full-time staff member being paid far less than the contractor who inserted that gem into the code... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Damian - Wondering why he has to be the one to sort the mess out!!

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                              ThatsAlok
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                              dude that funny.. you must go for contractor job then :)

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