London 'Terror Attacks'
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Stupid simplistic summing-up there and quite simply incorrect I suggest Google.
I don't need to Google it. Those are the facts. Just before the election, Spain supported, by a wide margin, the candidate that supported the war on terror. Right after the bombings, they switched their vote to the complacent socialist because they were all scared into doing so. You didn't vote on the candidate with the best hair...You voted for the candidate that Islamic terrorists told you to vote for.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Hey, like, do you happen to know what country Spain is in man?
The one that, I'm ashamed to admit, my grandfather is from.
Red Stateler wrote:
Those are the facts. Just before the election, Spain supported, by a wide margin, the candidate that supported the war on terror.
Completely untrue, people were sick of Aznar and his sucking up to GWB. Wide margin! I don't where you picked that up from. Once the bombs went off Aznar's party immediately started trying to blame it on ETA, this was their downfall and they lost the election. So it wasn't out of fear but a political decision to move away from a warmongering nation and an incompetent and corrupt party. I understand that people expressing themselves at the voting booth (booths which although non-electronic do actually work ;P ) is probably terrifying for you.
Red Stateler wrote:
The one that, I'm ashamed to admit, my grandfather is from.
Maybe you should have more pride, currently displaced in a nation that has 6pc of the world population and 26pc of THE WORLDS prisoners! Adio'
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Corinna John wrote:
, but I can see our rights go to hell.
Oh yeah, you're really being oppressed. Poor, poor oppressed you. Just look at how repressive your life has become. You have food to eat, a roof over your head, medical care, heating in the winter, a car to drive, the ability and freedom to criticise your government and it's policies, the ability to speak your mind without fear of retribution, the ability to come and go as you please, you enjoy relative peace and security...oh wait... Gee, I'm sorry, which rights did you lose, exactly? And yeah, the Madrid, London and 9/11 bombings were quite the shows. Did you have popcorn while you watched them? What's it like enjoying nice popcorn and while people die in a subway tunnel explosion? Bet you had a nice evening on those days, right? -- modified at 8:24 Monday 2nd July, 2007 Awesome! I got a '1 vote'! Somebody apparently feels that their government is actually oppressing them! So, vote 1 and tell me what rights you've lost! And by simultaneously voting '1', you've also implied that you thought the Madrid, London and 9/11 attacks WERE indeed good things. Nice person you are!
You are a fool, what are you missing out on? When was the last time some one oppressed you? I must have missed the reports in the media where the jackbooted thugs were kicking in people's doors and dragging them out in the night..... Just because a bunch of medical doctors weren't smart enough to figure out how to make an effective bomb, don't make the mistake of thinking that all of these people are fools. They do want us dead, our beliefs and the freedom that you claim to value so much are the reason they hate us. They will literally stop at nothing to make their point.
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Red Stateler wrote:
Those are the facts. Just before the election, Spain supported, by a wide margin, the candidate that supported the war on terror.
Completely untrue, people were sick of Aznar and his sucking up to GWB. Wide margin! I don't where you picked that up from. Once the bombs went off Aznar's party immediately started trying to blame it on ETA, this was their downfall and they lost the election. So it wasn't out of fear but a political decision to move away from a warmongering nation and an incompetent and corrupt party. I understand that people expressing themselves at the voting booth (booths which although non-electronic do actually work ;P ) is probably terrifying for you.
Red Stateler wrote:
The one that, I'm ashamed to admit, my grandfather is from.
Maybe you should have more pride, currently displaced in a nation that has 6pc of the world population and 26pc of THE WORLDS prisoners! Adio'
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Completely untrue, people were sick of Aznar and his sucking up to GWB.
And yet they were in support of him before the bombings and against him immediately afterwards. Strange how that works, huh? Just face it. Your people were scared into voting socialist. Terrorism dictated your votes.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe you should have more pride, currently displaced in a nation that has 6pc of the world population and 26pc of THE WORLDS prisoners!
Displaced implies that I'm here through some external and undesirable force. I'm here because it's the best country on earth. A country that is so good, that it can afford to put its criminals behind bars where they belong.
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So in the past few days, there have been 3 attempted 'terror strikes' in the UK. Two failed carbombs and one distinctly ineffectual flaming car driven at Glasgow airport. Note that the UK Government refers to these as 'foiled attacks' rather than 'failed attacks'. The vowel change is apparently significant, even though security services intervention had nothing to do with the fact that the devices didn't explode. The two carbombs were abject failures, namely down to their inability to fulfill their raison d'etre as a bomb, that being to explode. One of the cars wasn't even anywhere near its intended target - it was parked illegally, so had been towed to an impound. The car on fire left just one person injured - the driver of the vehicle who, on attempting to fuel the blaze with a can of petrol, managed to set his own trousers on fire. The whole thing wouldn't have looked out of place with Benny Hill music playing in the background. In the 80s, the IRA were carrying out a reign of terror marked by carbombs set off with devastating regularity. In the 00s, it seems we are under seige from a battalion of completely retarded incompetents. How many complete failures to make working explosive devices have we had now? If the IRA could do it every single time, how hard can it be, exactly? Without wishing any offence to those who have had friends or family injured or killed in terrorist attacks, is the reaction of government really proportional to the risk to the public that is demonstrated by these failures to kill? Terrorism? I'm not terrified, I'm frankly embarrassed.
Craster wrote:
the driver of the vehicle who, on attempting to fuel the blaze with a can of petrol, managed to set his own trousers on fire. The whole thing wouldn't have looked out of place with Benny Hill music playing in the background.
I travelled through Glasgow Airport yesterday. The building was just a bit singed. It smelled like a BBQ where someone has been a bit overzealous with the lighter fluid.
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Michael Martin wrote:
We only get a donkey over here.
No Kangaroo.
Regards, Satips.:rose:
Repost. Regards, Me. :rose:
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As I stated in my original message, I was not referring to successful terrorist attacks. Those have happened, and were terrible. However, to respond to the failed attacks of amateurs in the same way is in itself a form of terrorism perpetrated by our own media and government.
So the difference between a funny terrorist attack and a tragedy is .... luck? A failed bomb component? The issue that you seem to be missing is that there is a relatively large group of Europe's citizenry that if they don't advocate violence, they at least believe that it might be justified in the name of religion. So while you sit there smug in your assertion that these bombers are incompetent and a source of amusement, there is reason to believe that there may be others who will "get lucky" and wipe the smile of your face.
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Craster wrote:
Exactly. Therefore, the correct way to render such an attack impotent is to point and laugh at the incompetance.
I can see where you're coming from, but pointing and laughing until something serious happens isn't what's called for here. What's needed is an honest appraisal of their motivation, if it's brain-washing in a Madrasa then something will have to be done as people bought up this way are just not compatible with life in Europe. Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, that's going to stop them! They'll simply love us and stop killing us! Hey, I volunteer YOU as the messenger. I say we send you into the Islamic fundamentalist hot-zones with an arm-load of apology laden pamphlets direct from the Great Satan that is the West. I bet Osama will just embrace, kiss, love and hug you to death. Then they'll all drop their guns and suicide vests and militant, fundamentalist ideologies and turn things into a veritable orgy of love for the apologetic West! WOW! I can't believe you figured it out! So simple!!!! But here's a question for you: what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
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Don't you think that there might be supporters from within the Airport staff on this attack? Otherwise the car-on-flames might not have crossed that many hurdles/security barriers and reached the place where it collapsed.
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:
Don't you think that there might be supporters from within the Airport staff on this attack? Otherwise the car-on-flames might not have crossed that many hurdles/security barriers and reached the place where it collapsed.
What barriers? There are a number of lanes of traffic divided by a set of disconinuous bus/taxi shelters. You need to go through a barrier to "officially" get in the taxi lane as I recall, but anyone can get in the car drop off lane then drive through the gaps where the pedestrian crossings are because they are raised to the level of the pavement to allow people in wheel chairs access.
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You are a fool, what are you missing out on? When was the last time some one oppressed you? I must have missed the reports in the media where the jackbooted thugs were kicking in people's doors and dragging them out in the night..... Just because a bunch of medical doctors weren't smart enough to figure out how to make an effective bomb, don't make the mistake of thinking that all of these people are fools. They do want us dead, our beliefs and the freedom that you claim to value so much are the reason they hate us. They will literally stop at nothing to make their point.
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Doug Goulden wrote:
You are a fool, what are you missing out on? When was the last time some one oppressed you? I must have missed the reports in the media where the jackbooted thugs were kicking in people's doors and dragging them out in the night.....
Uh, wtf, man? I think we agree... :~
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Yeah. And can you believe that a dozen people tried to hijack airplanes with box cutters? Can you believe how stupid that is? Box cutters? What kind of idiot thinks they would be able to pull that off? We shouldn't even bother trying to prevent terrorism because those terrorists are so incapable.
Seems almost laughable huh?
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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So the difference between a funny terrorist attack and a tragedy is .... luck? A failed bomb component? The issue that you seem to be missing is that there is a relatively large group of Europe's citizenry that if they don't advocate violence, they at least believe that it might be justified in the name of religion. So while you sit there smug in your assertion that these bombers are incompetent and a source of amusement, there is reason to believe that there may be others who will "get lucky" and wipe the smile of your face.
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote:
So the difference between a funny terrorist attack and a tragedy is .... luck? A failed bomb component? The issue that you seem to be missing is that there is a relatively large group of Europe's citizenry that if they don't advocate violence, they at least believe that it might be justified in the name of religion. So while you sit there smug in your assertion that these bombers are incompetent and a source of amusement, there is reason to believe that there may be others who will "get lucky" and wipe the smile of your face.
LUCID AND RATIONAL THINKING IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE SOAPBOX, HEATHEN!!!!!!!!! :->
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, that's going to stop them! They'll simply love us and stop killing us! Hey, I volunteer YOU as the messenger. I say we send you into the Islamic fundamentalist hot-zones with an arm-load of apology laden pamphlets direct from the Great Satan that is the West. I bet Osama will just embrace, kiss, love and hug you to death. Then they'll all drop their guns and suicide vests and militant, fundamentalist ideologies and turn things into a veritable orgy of love for the apologetic West! WOW! I can't believe you figured it out! So simple!!!! But here's a question for you: what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
73Zeppelin wrote:
what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
Virgins? Lots and lots of virgins?
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Completely untrue, people were sick of Aznar and his sucking up to GWB.
And yet they were in support of him before the bombings and against him immediately afterwards. Strange how that works, huh? Just face it. Your people were scared into voting socialist. Terrorism dictated your votes.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe you should have more pride, currently displaced in a nation that has 6pc of the world population and 26pc of THE WORLDS prisoners!
Displaced implies that I'm here through some external and undesirable force. I'm here because it's the best country on earth. A country that is so good, that it can afford to put its criminals behind bars where they belong.
Red Stateler wrote:
And yet they were in support of him before the bombings and against him immediately afterwards. Strange how that works, huh?
Never heard of floating voters? O right now I understand, it's a foreign concept for you died-in-the-wool red necks isn't it? You'll take any sh** as long as it's from the same neo-cons and not believe anything to the contrary, ever, and when faced with facts you don't like you'll label them as left-wing propaganda. The PP tried to blame it onto ETA, it was obvious it wasn't them to the floating voter, obviously, so they voted with the obvious outcome.
Red Stateler wrote:
Displaced implies that I'm here through some external and undesirable force.
I meant your pride was displaced, hey perhaps it fits your definition too.
Red Stateler wrote:
A country that is so good, that it can afford to put its criminals behind bars where they belong.
Excellent. Thanks for those words of wisdom.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
Virgins? Lots and lots of virgins?
Red Stateler wrote:
Virgins? Lots and lots of virgins?
Yes! And the end of Western culture, fundamental Islamic rule, religion and law for all! Oooh, oooh, I forgot - death for all infidels also.. And an apology. Can't forget the apology!
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, that's going to stop them! They'll simply love us and stop killing us! Hey, I volunteer YOU as the messenger. I say we send you into the Islamic fundamentalist hot-zones with an arm-load of apology laden pamphlets direct from the Great Satan that is the West. I bet Osama will just embrace, kiss, love and hug you to death. Then they'll all drop their guns and suicide vests and militant, fundamentalist ideologies and turn things into a veritable orgy of love for the apologetic West! WOW! I can't believe you figured it out! So simple!!!! But here's a question for you: what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
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73Zeppelin wrote:
But here's a question for you: what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
A muslim world, especially one without Jews in it
Philosophy: The art of never getting beyond the concept of life.
TClarke wrote:
A muslim world, especially one without Jews in it
Exactly. Tell that to Mr. AndyKEnZ... But I'm sure apologizing for all our "transgressions" against them will settle us up all nice-like! :rolleyes:
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Red Stateler wrote:
And yet they were in support of him before the bombings and against him immediately afterwards. Strange how that works, huh?
Never heard of floating voters? O right now I understand, it's a foreign concept for you died-in-the-wool red necks isn't it? You'll take any sh** as long as it's from the same neo-cons and not believe anything to the contrary, ever, and when faced with facts you don't like you'll label them as left-wing propaganda. The PP tried to blame it onto ETA, it was obvious it wasn't them to the floating voter, obviously, so they voted with the obvious outcome.
Red Stateler wrote:
Displaced implies that I'm here through some external and undesirable force.
I meant your pride was displaced, hey perhaps it fits your definition too.
Red Stateler wrote:
A country that is so good, that it can afford to put its criminals behind bars where they belong.
Excellent. Thanks for those words of wisdom.
Give it up, dude. Your country of wussies allowed terrorists to dictate your election. You might euphemistically call them "floating voters", but the fact remains: Your socialist candidate won because terrorists told Spain to elect him...And you did.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
I meant your pride was displaced, hey perhaps it fits your definition too.
Why would I be proud of my Spanish blood? That makes absolutely no sense to me...At all.
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, that's going to stop them! They'll simply love us and stop killing us! Hey, I volunteer YOU as the messenger. I say we send you into the Islamic fundamentalist hot-zones with an arm-load of apology laden pamphlets direct from the Great Satan that is the West. I bet Osama will just embrace, kiss, love and hug you to death. Then they'll all drop their guns and suicide vests and militant, fundamentalist ideologies and turn things into a veritable orgy of love for the apologetic West! WOW! I can't believe you figured it out! So simple!!!! But here's a question for you: what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
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Give it up, dude. Your country of wussies allowed terrorists to dictate your election. You might euphemistically call them "floating voters", but the fact remains: Your socialist candidate won because terrorists told Spain to elect him...And you did.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
I meant your pride was displaced, hey perhaps it fits your definition too.
Why would I be proud of my Spanish blood? That makes absolutely no sense to me...At all.
Red Stateler wrote:
Give it up, dude. Your country of wussies allowed terrorists to dictate your election. You might euphemistically call them "floating voters", but the fact remains: Your socialist candidate won because terrorists told Spain to elect him...And you did.
I wonder when Spain will get bombed a second time? I also wonder what the terrorists will want the Spanish to do next? You know, so there "isn't a 3rd time" or anything... If it were me, I'd just make stuff up at random: Colour your flag purple or we'll bomb ya! Make your politicians dance instead of debate! Shut down all your trains between 3pm and 7:13pm on the third Sunday of every 2nd month or....we'll bomb you!
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So you would prefer that they had been successful? You have som unexplained need to be proud of your terrorists? As far as I can tell from the reports, the cars failed to explode because they were discovered before they were due... And as for Glascow, well it looks like it did a fair piece of work on the airport terminal... And you should be embarrassed, but for your post, not your good luck.
Rob Graham wrote:
And as for Glascow, well it looks like it did a fair piece of work on the airport terminal...
I travelled through that terminal in GLA yesterday. It looks like it'll need a new set of doors and some replaced panels that melted a wee bit. Perhaps a coat of paint. It didn't look too bad actually. It is a reasonable sized airport and while repairs are underway it can be worked around quite easily.
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