London 'Terror Attacks'
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
im not theology expert or anything but arent the mormans basically christian?
Mark Hoffman was raised a Mormon, but became an atheist as a teenager. He sought to bring down the Mormon Church in the name of atheism by forging church documents and killing a couple people along the way. He was an atheist fundamentalist terrorist.
VonHagNDaz wrote:
If modern science was founded by the Catholic Church, why do Christians believe Jesus is magic?
Is this an actual quote from somebody? Because it's pretty dumb.
apparently work is now blocking emails from the code project, so i cant tell if anyone is replying
Red Stateler wrote:
Is this an actual quote from somebody? Because it's pretty dumb.
its a combination of Sarah Silverman and George Carlin quotes. Sarah Silverman had a stand up routine about her boy friend being christian and her being jewish and how they should raise their child. blah blah blah, the child asks something about its parents religion, blah blah blah, well mommy is one of the chosen people and well, dad believes jesus is magic... George Carlin has a skit about god being the imaginary friend for adults, and surprise surprise, he does talk about science being founded by the church, and how it applies to everything except them. none of these are exact quotes. i havent seen any of these specials in a while.
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So in the past few days, there have been 3 attempted 'terror strikes' in the UK. Two failed carbombs and one distinctly ineffectual flaming car driven at Glasgow airport. Note that the UK Government refers to these as 'foiled attacks' rather than 'failed attacks'. The vowel change is apparently significant, even though security services intervention had nothing to do with the fact that the devices didn't explode. The two carbombs were abject failures, namely down to their inability to fulfill their raison d'etre as a bomb, that being to explode. One of the cars wasn't even anywhere near its intended target - it was parked illegally, so had been towed to an impound. The car on fire left just one person injured - the driver of the vehicle who, on attempting to fuel the blaze with a can of petrol, managed to set his own trousers on fire. The whole thing wouldn't have looked out of place with Benny Hill music playing in the background. In the 80s, the IRA were carrying out a reign of terror marked by carbombs set off with devastating regularity. In the 00s, it seems we are under seige from a battalion of completely retarded incompetents. How many complete failures to make working explosive devices have we had now? If the IRA could do it every single time, how hard can it be, exactly? Without wishing any offence to those who have had friends or family injured or killed in terrorist attacks, is the reaction of government really proportional to the risk to the public that is demonstrated by these failures to kill? Terrorism? I'm not terrified, I'm frankly embarrassed.
I totally agree with you on the fact that it is an embarassment to you the Englishman. I also agree with you that one of the causes of this embarassment is the UK govt. incapability. But there is one more cause of embarassment too. The fact that UK has pissed off some people (the terrorists) here to such huge regard that they really don't care if they are trained or not they just want to do it. Think of the resolve that goes into it ... it's chilling for someone like you and me ... people like us value our lives far more because we don't have that resolve because we have lived cushioned lives and haven't seen atrocities.
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Red Stateler wrote:
Is this an actual quote from somebody? Because it's pretty dumb.
its a combination of Sarah Silverman and George Carlin quotes. Sarah Silverman had a stand up routine about her boy friend being christian and her being jewish and how they should raise their child. blah blah blah, the child asks something about its parents religion, blah blah blah, well mommy is one of the chosen people and well, dad believes jesus is magic... George Carlin has a skit about god being the imaginary friend for adults, and surprise surprise, he does talk about science being founded by the church, and how it applies to everything except them. none of these are exact quotes. i havent seen any of these specials in a while.
-------------------- If modern science was founded by the Catholic Church, why do Christians believe Jesus is magic?
VonHagNDaz wrote:
Sarah Silverman had a stand up routine about her boy friend being christian and her being jewish and how they should raise their child. blah blah blah, the child asks something about its parents religion, blah blah blah, well mommy is one of the chosen people and well, dad believes jesus is magic...
Sarah Silverman sucks and is not funny. It's no wonder I found your quote to be dumb.
VonHagNDaz wrote:
George Carlin has a skit about god being the imaginary friend for adults, and surprise surprise, he does talk about science being founded by the church, and how it applies to everything except them.
Yes it was and why should it? As I've said before, science's realm is the physical and religion's is the metaphysical. It's only addressed (and it is) when those two collide in the case of miracles. The church performs exhaustive scientific inquiry to any such claims and is always very careful about proclaiming anything miraculous.
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
Sarah Silverman had a stand up routine about her boy friend being christian and her being jewish and how they should raise their child. blah blah blah, the child asks something about its parents religion, blah blah blah, well mommy is one of the chosen people and well, dad believes jesus is magic...
Sarah Silverman sucks and is not funny. It's no wonder I found your quote to be dumb.
VonHagNDaz wrote:
George Carlin has a skit about god being the imaginary friend for adults, and surprise surprise, he does talk about science being founded by the church, and how it applies to everything except them.
Yes it was and why should it? As I've said before, science's realm is the physical and religion's is the metaphysical. It's only addressed (and it is) when those two collide in the case of miracles. The church performs exhaustive scientific inquiry to any such claims and is always very careful about proclaiming anything miraculous.
this is one time that i really dont feel like getting into religion, i just wanted to answer your question, thats it
-------------------- If modern science was founded by the Catholic Church, why do Christians believe Jesus is magic?
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Rob Caldecott wrote:
If that's the calibre of a typical Al-Qaeda 'cell' operating in Britain then we don't have much to fear do we?
Not until seasoned veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan adventures start pouring into the country.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Not until seasoned veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan adventures start pouring into the country.
Those WERE seasoned veterans. At least a couple of them migrated from Iraq in 2005.
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Of all the places on earth to try to scare Glasgow has got to be the dumbest. I noticed there was no shortage of passers by who put a boot in. Probably the only reason they put the men out was so they could continue beating ten bells out of them. I guess we're seeing the down side of suicide bombing. It looks like the stock of competant bombers has run a little low. The serious ones must have gone to Afganistan or Iraq. Strangley this was part of the western strategy: If they want to fight better it's on their land. One thing that really bemused me was the use of gas canisters. There is NO WAY that surrounding them with pertrol would cause them to explode. They're built to withstand that. You would have to strap a good amount of explosive to the side of one to get that effect.
Philosophy: The art of never getting beyond the concept of life.
TClarke wrote:
I guess we're seeing the down side of suicide bombing. It looks like the stock of competant bombers has run a little low.
I think this may be a natural genetic consequence. The smart ones apparently forgot to breed first, perhaps they didn't make the connection between 70 virgins in heaven and no progeny...
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Corinna John wrote:
, but I can see our rights go to hell.
Oh yeah, you're really being oppressed. Poor, poor oppressed you. Just look at how repressive your life has become. You have food to eat, a roof over your head, medical care, heating in the winter, a car to drive, the ability and freedom to criticise your government and it's policies, the ability to speak your mind without fear of retribution, the ability to come and go as you please, you enjoy relative peace and security...oh wait... Gee, I'm sorry, which rights did you lose, exactly? And yeah, the Madrid, London and 9/11 bombings were quite the shows. Did you have popcorn while you watched them? What's it like enjoying nice popcorn and while people die in a subway tunnel explosion? Bet you had a nice evening on those days, right? -- modified at 8:24 Monday 2nd July, 2007 Awesome! I got a '1 vote'! Somebody apparently feels that their government is actually oppressing them! So, vote 1 and tell me what rights you've lost! And by simultaneously voting '1', you've also implied that you thought the Madrid, London and 9/11 attacks WERE indeed good things. Nice person you are!
Those who would trade freedom for security don't deserve either. Plain and simple. You can use this clever tactic of claiming that as long as you're a good guy you don't have anything to worry about, but whatever. You can also claim that because of living in a Western country you have so many nice things that you don't lose anything when every action is being monitored. But that's just a bunch of apologetic crap attempting to blow smoke up our collective asses. Hell, we should be thankful huh?
73Zeppelin wrote:
And by simultaneously voting '1', you've also implied that you thought the Madrid, London and 9/11 attacks WERE indeed good things. Nice person you are!
This is just intellectually dishonest. Playing to emotion to endorse snooping. So, you don't think that privacy is a right huh? Really that's what you are saying by asking what rights we've lost. That's really the only one. Privacy. If you don't think that's a right, then you shouldn't mind a peeping Tom posting videos of you and your mate on YouTube.
This statement was never false.
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Craster wrote:
Exactly. Therefore, the correct way to render such an attack impotent is to point and laugh at the incompetance. Hysterical reporting and filling the streets with armed police play right into the hands of those aiming to cause terror.
Yeah, the 9/11, Madrid and London bombings were fucking hilarious, huh? What a riot.
You keep returning to these incidents in an appeal to emotion. Interesting tactic to avoid the debate.
This statement was never false.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Westernculture is being directly assaulted
Hurrah you noticed but apparently still can't see through the misdirection and keep blaming Muslims and Communists even when you have to falsely accuse people of being Muslims or Communists to do it. Extraordinary! I wonder if lets say Switzerland suddenly pulled out of the World Bank and the UN and declared the US a rouge state and an enemy whether you would claim the Swiss were all commies or that they'd all converted to Islam. :laugh:
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Are they still selling aluminum foil in your grocery stores? Damn!
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Are they still selling aluminum foil in your grocery stores? Damn!
No I have to get mine directly from Red. They won't sell it here in case we grind it up for thermite bombs. I guess anyone who knows that Aluminium is the 3rd most common element on the face of the earth is too well educated to be a terrorism risk :laugh:
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Repost.
I think he got your point about the repost thing.
Mr.Prakash wrote:
I think he got your point about the repost thing.
I don't. When he stops posting news stories with no point, I'll leave him alone. And you already replied to me with this same sentence. REPOST!