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  • B Brady Kelly

    I don't know about the US, but I've never heard of such a charge. I would imagine it only applies to someone whose job it is to help people. However, if it were obvious to a reasonable person that the victim would die, some sort of manslaughter charge may be possible.

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    KaRl
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    Here, if you let someone in danger without reacting, you can be fined, even jailed according to the circumstances.


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    • B Brady Kelly

      I don't know about the US, but I've never heard of such a charge. I would imagine it only applies to someone whose job it is to help people. However, if it were obvious to a reasonable person that the victim would die, some sort of manslaughter charge may be possible.

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      Lost User
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      You cant prosecute on inaction. Inaction does not consitute cause. Other wise the whole world would be fucked. The most you can do is shake your sorry head and wonder at the state of the world.

      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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      • L Lost User

        I guess the issue here is that LaShanda was black.

        Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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        fat_boy wrote:

        LaShanda was black.

        That is what played against her. If she were white, blood coming out of the wound would have been better to see from the first angle because of better contrast (white vs. red); since she was black, the guy had to take the shot from the other site otherwise you would not have seen the blood on the picture.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          Woman left to die on shop floor [^] SHOPPERS in a US convenience store stepped over a woman dying from stab wounds with one stopping only to take a picture on a mobile phone.

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          Stan Shannon
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          Of course. She undoubtedly was wearing the wrong gang colors.

          Pardon Libby!

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          • C Chris Maunder

            Woman left to die on shop floor [^] SHOPPERS in a US convenience store stepped over a woman dying from stab wounds with one stopping only to take a picture on a mobile phone.

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            73Zeppelin
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            Apathy, Chris. Apathy. People don't want responsibility. Yes, it's that simple.


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            • 7 73Zeppelin

              Apathy, Chris. Apathy. People don't want responsibility. Yes, it's that simple.


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              73Zeppelin wrote:

              Apathy, Chris. Apathy. People don't want responsibility.

              Don't you think that is a bit much. Since this incident clearly happened in a black community within Wichita, would you be as willing to make such a generically negative comment about them, as about the US itself?

              Pardon Libby!

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                Kansas, a Red State. :laugh:

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                Stan Shannon
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                And another perfect example of how those who fanatically defend the larger Islamic community againt the actions of a "few", miss no opportunity to use any isolated incident to categorize an entire population when it comes to the US. Fucking hypocrits.

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                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                  Apathy, Chris. Apathy. People don't want responsibility.

                  Don't you think that is a bit much. Since this incident clearly happened in a black community within Wichita, would you be as willing to make such a generically negative comment about them, as about the US itself?

                  Pardon Libby!

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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  Don't you think that is a bit much. Since this incident clearly happened in a black community within Wichita, would you be as willing to make such a generically negative comment about them, as about the US itself?

                  You can misconstrue that as a general comment on the U.S./black community if you like. I simply meant it in the context of why this woman was left there and ignored. I lived in the U.S. for only a brief period of time, thus you would be more qualified than myself to generalize that statement.


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                  • T Tim Craig

                    Kansas, a Red State. :laugh:

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                    All involved were African American; not exactly a demographic known to be of the "Red State" persuasion. [^] Maybe no one helped because her male companion (who vanished before help arrived) said she needed none. Or maybe because they knew the store clerk had called police already.

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                    • L Lost User

                      I guess the issue here is that LaShanda was black.

                      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                      fat_boy wrote:

                      I guess the issue here is that LaShanda was black.

                      I didn't then and still don't now give a fuck about her colour, my issue is with the stupid fucking name she has.

                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                        All involved were African American; not exactly a demographic known to be of the "Red State" persuasion. [^] Maybe no one helped because her male companion (who vanished before help arrived) said she needed none. Or maybe because they knew the store clerk had called police already.

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                        Rob Graham wrote:

                        All involved were African American

                        I don't get it, why is the ethnicity relevant? :confused:


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                        • K KaRl

                          Rob Graham wrote:

                          All involved were African American

                          I don't get it, why is the ethnicity relevant? :confused:


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                          K(arl) wrote:

                          why is the ethnicity relevant?

                          Why is 'red state' relevant?

                          Pardon Libby!

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                            K(arl) wrote:

                            why is the ethnicity relevant?

                            Why is 'red state' relevant?

                            Pardon Libby!

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                            I don't remember writing it was, so you should ask the people who seriously say so.


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                              While I have no answer for what has happened, I have a question of my own to ask the masses here. The victim's name is LaShanda while the assailant is named Cherish. What the fuck is going on nower days, do parents grab a handful of scrabble letters and throw them on the floor to make a name while others read a dictionary. A good friend of mine named their daughter Destiny late last year, I couldn't say it for the first 6 months. It's a fucking word not a name. People wonder why some children grow up to bash their parents, have a look at some of their names. They shouldn't just be let off the charges some should be rewarded for bashing morons.

                              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                              Back in the '80s, among the trailer trash crowd, the name 'Misty Dawn' was very popular. Every other girl baby you met was named 'Misty Dawn'. It drove me crazy. The African-American community is notorious for giving their kids fabricated names like LaShanda. I worked for a guy once who named his baby girl 'Kindling' (like the small bits of wood you burn to start a fire) because his wife and he had seen that name on the name tag of a waitress at some truck stop and liked it. Whatever happened to just naming kids after people in your family - or repsected public figures. That was a wonderful tradition. -- modified at 9:25 Wednesday 4th July, 2007

                              Pardon Libby!

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                                I don't remember writing it was, so you should ask the people who seriously say so.


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                                K(arl) wrote:

                                don't remember writing it was, so you should ask the people who seriously say so.

                                You're in the middle of a thread that started with it. Yet you did not seem to be motivated to respond similarly to that generalization.

                                Pardon Libby!

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  Don't you think that is a bit much. Since this incident clearly happened in a black community within Wichita, would you be as willing to make such a generically negative comment about them, as about the US itself?

                                  You can misconstrue that as a general comment on the U.S./black community if you like. I simply meant it in the context of why this woman was left there and ignored. I lived in the U.S. for only a brief period of time, thus you would be more qualified than myself to generalize that statement.


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                                  The only reason this story is being blasted around the internet is precisely because it happened in some small, heartland, US community. That would not be so if it did not feed into the 'oh, look how fucked up the US is" mentality. But when someone points out that well, gee, everyone involved is black, so how about generlizing about that? It suddenly becomes taboo. It is one of those stories that reveals a lot about the nature of discourse in the modern world.

                                  Pardon Libby!

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    Woman left to die on shop floor [^] SHOPPERS in a US convenience store stepped over a woman dying from stab wounds with one stopping only to take a picture on a mobile phone.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                    Mike Gaskey
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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    Can someone explain this to me?

                                    the loss of the communal sense of being your brother's keeper.

                                    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                    • K KaRl

                                      No :nausea: Doesn't the offence of "non-assistance to a person in danger" exist in the US?


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                                      Stan Shannon
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                                      K(arl) wrote:

                                      Doesn't the offence of "non-assistance to a person in danger" exist in the US?

                                      We don't need it. 99 times out of a hundred, assistance of some type would have been rendered. But those incidents would never make it past page three of the local paper precisely because they are so common. Only the uncommon story gets attention.

                                      Pardon Libby!

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                                      • K KaRl

                                        Rob Graham wrote:

                                        All involved were African American

                                        I don't get it, why is the ethnicity relevant? :confused:


                                        Change of fashion is the tax levied by the industry of the poor on the vanity of the rich Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                        Tim's partisan assertion that Kansas being predominately a conservative (Red/Republican) state explains the behavior becomes nonsense if the participants are African American, as they tend to vote Democratic/Left/Blue as a block. But then Tim blames conservatives for every evil there is.

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                                          The only reason this story is being blasted around the internet is precisely because it happened in some small, heartland, US community. That would not be so if it did not feed into the 'oh, look how fucked up the US is" mentality. But when someone points out that well, gee, everyone involved is black, so how about generlizing about that? It suddenly becomes taboo. It is one of those stories that reveals a lot about the nature of discourse in the modern world.

                                          Pardon Libby!

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                                          73Zeppelin
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                                          When I saw the story last night there was no mention of the names or colour of the people. I saw it on CNN online. Think and accuse me of whatever pleases you. I don't expect any rational behaviour on this message board.


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